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Had a strong individual mythology and theme for sure. Hell it almost had a plot which Q1 didn't. Q4 should have been a good reboot of that, but it was pretty forgettable.
Could there be a better reboot of it?? Possibly but then it would be pretty much directly competing with Doom4. Could there be a blend of Q1 and Q2?? Possibly but then I really want to see Kinn sucking them lollipops.... When you boil it down though, Doom and Quake are pretty interchangeable.
Doom: Tech base, rocky alien planet, hell, demons, mecha-demons. Quake 1: Tech base, medieval, sort-of-hell, demons. Quake 2/4: Tech base, rocky alien planet, cyborgs that may as well be mecha-demons. All of the Quake and Doom games have freely cross-pollinated with each others weapons, powerups, and game mechanics. IMO Doom should just keep on being Doom, and Quake needs to ditch all the tech base stuff and just be about ancient fortresses of monsters and knights, and imaginative lovecraftian nether-realms, that are very different to the Doom Hell stuff. When most gamers say "Quake", they think Quake 3 or at best Quakeworld. ID would likely just use the Quake IP for multiplayer focused titles if they're smart.
Are two sides of one coin, that coin being "id shooter". (The IDS exchange rate is currently regaining stability vs the dollar.)
Doom = explicit themes and plot, Quake = implicit themes and plot. The other day we had a brief but interesting talk on #tf about Lovecraft in Quake and czg made a good point how the final game doesn't have anything that relies upon the Lovecraft influences. Meanwhile Doom's depiction of Hell is very flashy and overt. With Doom 3, they tried to make a Doom game but got too much stuff from the other side of the coin, and got a game that's neither a fast shooter or an atmospheric one. IMO Doom should just keep on being Doom, and Quake needs to ditch all the tech base stuff and just be about ancient fortresses of monsters and knights, and imaginative lovecraftian nether-realms, that are very different to the Doom Hell stuff.
I agree completely. Maybe with a dash of brown techbase :) Can you imagine a bloodbourne/dark souls fps? hnnnggg ID would likely just use the Quake IP for multiplayer focused titles if they're smart. Eh, I'm not so sure about that. I think trying to essentially resurrect Q3 is a fools errand. The demand for that type of shooter is relatively small and the market seems saturated with those games, both f2p and p2p. (xonotic, warsow, reflex, toxikk, the new UT and many more). Also, what if that were to fail? The negative publicity simply isn't worth it IMO. I feel like the doom mp is clear message that they are not interested in going that route. Did I cause that?
Quake 1 needs a focused team of creatives free from corporate mandate to be properly remade. Also, All the Quake games had a story after a fashion, just not a very good one. They did however tell their stories very well; with spinning bits of metal, showers of gibs and atmosphere. That said, an id shooter with a lovecrafty vibe would not go amiss.
Or if we just want to see more shamblers in our lives, a community effort to mod Doom 4 in a quake style would make me jizz 360 degrees around the room like a watersprinkler you obviously haven't read my 50 or so volumes of Quake 3 fan-fiction, mostly absolutely filthy. Fills in a lot of blanks in the strongly-implied Sarge-Daemia romance
a community effort to mod Doom 4 in a quake style would make me jizz 360 degrees around the room like a watersprinkler
Well there first needs to be a community effort to persuade id/bethesda to release the tools that make it possible to enable community efforts in the first place. Without that, I'm afraid we won't be seeing any semen-based catherine-wheel action any time soon. We may not see another quake for quite some time. Here's a handful some rad games that are coming out:
Call Of Cthulhu Cyberpunk 2077 Dishonored 2 Obduction Routine System Shock 3 Out of the hundreds of games that will release in the following years, these are the only ones that I know of that I'm actually anticipating :/ System Shock is life. Heresy. If they redo it (which will be likely given the new DOOM's success), it needs to be some major "theme" like the original, with an imminent invasion on the "base-side" of things, possibly an attempted strike at the beginning, that of course takes out everyone but the player. His (or her?) dying superior officer essentially wheezes "Get 'em" with their last breath, sending the player into the Dimension of the Doomed with what little supplies he can find, having to go back and forth between it and the now-ruined bases connected by slipgates/teleports. Given the popularity of Bloodborne, id should Chtulhu the fuck out of it, bringing good ol' Sandy Petersen back onboard.
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