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Posted by metlslime on 2002/12/23 18:24:21

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#30687 posted by dumptruck_ds on 2018/12/09 09:39:24

I played an earlier version of this. Looks like some nice upgrades. Will check it out.

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#30688 posted by dumptruck_ds on 2018/12/09 09:39:25

I played an earlier version of this. Looks like some nice upgrades. Will check it out.

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#30689 posted by spy on 2018/12/09 13:55:06

I played an earlier version of this. Looks like some nice upgrades. Will check it out.

Spirit's Quaddicted Summit

#30691 posted by dumptruck_ds on 2018/12/11 02:41:43

Spirit has posted an inquiry on Quaddicted's forum to gauge interest in A Weekend in Quaddicted's Future. This will be an online discussion tentatively scheduled for this Sunday December 16th:

"to focus on the shortcomings of the site and grand visions plans for the future? I have lots of ideas how a vastly different system could ensure that new releases are available in an instant, automated tools can become way more powerful, etc."

Take a look here: https://www.quaddicted.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=622

Looks like Zulip is the platform of choice: https://zulipchat.com/

Protocol Vs. BSP2

#30692 posted by dumptruck_ds on 2018/12/13 19:40:11

Could someone explain the differences here?

Do they work together or are they completely unrelated? And what are the differences?

#30693 posted by Qmaster on 2018/12/14 00:59:29

protocol 15 = bog standard vanilla software Quake network protocol
.bsp = bog standard vanilla map format
protocol 666 = enhanced network protocol that allows for higher entity counts, even in coop over a network, among other things
.bsp2 = enhanced map format with support for higher limits for geometry, vertex count, face count, leafs.
protocol 999 = ultra-enhanced network protocol that allows for playable level size beyond 4096x4096x4096. I believe up to 8192 at least if not double that again.

protocol 666 will still render beyond 4096 but once the player reaches there wierd stuff starts happening...sort of like walking all the way around the world to the other side.

Basically, if you default to compiling with -bsp2 parameter and running with protocol 999 on everything in an engine that supports .bsp2 (QS/QSS, FTE, DP) then everything should JustWork(R). Older engines also required some sort of -zone 4096 command when running the engine but I believe it isn't needed now.

Why is there protocol 666? Because mappers love torches.
Why is there protocol 999? Because Orl.

Interrelated

#30694 posted by Qmaster on 2018/12/14 01:05:20

Spike will probably come in now and tell us that that ain't the half of it.

Basically protocol affects netwotk packets and how many entities you can handle.

.Bsp/.bsp2/.psb(don't worry about it long abandoned alternate to bsp2) affect how much stuff you can have in your level.

#30695 posted by oh, that person on 2018/12/14 01:15:10

Why is there protocol 999? Because RemakeQuake in 2010.

Also

#30696 posted by oh, that person on 2018/12/14 01:15:38

8192^3 is the playable volume in Quake.

Qmaster

#30697 posted by dumptruck_ds on 2018/12/14 02:06:31

Great info thank you! Makes more sense now.

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