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#tf / Func_qmap BEEF Thread.
Inspired by Scampie who has more beef going than the average American "lite" breakfast =).

So let's have it out here...

Scampie vs. Xen

Scampie vs. ProdXL

Maj vs. ProdXL

(actually most people vs. ProdXL)

Wrath vs. Everyone

Grindspire vs. someone it seems

Me vs. Speedy occasionally

Mod-makers vs. well they just look like a right bunch of knobs anyway.

etc.
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At least you are ashamed, that's a first step in the right direction. 
 
Join me mugwump. Realize you're an idiot with nothing worth saying and refrain from posting. Make some wooden spoons or something. Please. 
Whatever Makes You Feel Better... 
 
 
You did poorly […] because you […], did not make it sound exciting and did not explain why you think it is great.

It did sound exciting to me, and I did say why I thought it's great.

The fact that you and several other people could never recognize that just proves my point. 
 
Promoting things can be hard work.

But since you emailed 1000 people, posted on Reddit, contacted several gaming web sites, spread the word on social networks, knocked door to door in wealthy neighborhoods --- and did it all repeatedly for months on end -- I think you can take comfort that you showed up the battlefield.

You gave it your all! That is the best anyone can do.

/See metlslime post #264 above. 
 
That would only make sense if I was promoting a (nearly) finished product.

Spending most of my time doing PR work instead of coding would be essentially a scam.

Anyway, I don't need money anymore. 
 
That is good to hear.

Someone working on a project should spend maybe 2% of time promoting it passively (blog? an occasional screenshot in random places)

Someone in an active promotion mode, should spend 100% of time available to very vigorously promoting their work.

Func_Msgboard examples are like when Sleepwalker was trying to get John Romero to say something about TrenchBroom (it worked!) or the kind of promotion Sock did with early Quake releases around the 2012 period, Sock hit a lot of different places -- including some very non-Quake places -- and was thinking "2 thumbs up, finally someone doing it right!".

Self-promotion is not a crime. Especially if the cause is just.

Someone afraid of seeming a bit like a spammer is guilty of the crime --- the crime of not being perceived as definitely a spammer.

I hope you do succeed, you have always made interesting and unique contributions, particularly to things like the software renderer and lit water and such. I can remember years back digging through your engine for innovations.

I still can remember trying your pixelated water technique in WinQuake way early in this decade WinQuake pixelated water and acquiring WinQuake skybox support, which I know probably was derived from ToChris but you did it better ;-) 
 
beefing with Breezeep for saying he didnt have enough time or inspiration for this jam but then ABSOLUTELY KILLING IT WITH HIS SCREENSHOT GAME.

1v1 me bro 
U Wot M8? 
 
 
fuk u m8. go fekin map. 
The GPL 
"The GPL forces software to become widely available even when it still is a piece of crap"

This is a common misconception. If you are a business that uses software based on a GPL project, but you only use it internally, you DO NOT have to publically distribute the source to your changes.

Additionally, when you must make the source "available", you do not have to make it easy. It is absolutely legal to not offer the source for download directly on your webpage, but instead have it available on request AND ONLY to those who already have access to your binaries.

That being said, obviously if some paying customer does ask and receive the source code from you, theres nothing to stop them from sharing it elsewhere. 
Beefing With Megaman 
Fucking calm down about Ionous' Twitch posts. No one cares that he does this, they are not excessive and you are acting like a fucking baby. You got some attention and made your point. The majority of people disagree so let's get back to talking about mapping. 
Beefy Farts 
Meat, and especially beef, makes me fart more than usual after consumption.

Guess my digestion has a beef with the food I eat. 
Hmmmh, I Don't Really Get It 
Good to take it to beef I guess.

First of all, this is not at all about ionous, so lets take him out of the equation. I like what he's doing!

The way I see it:

0) I complain about stream advertising

a) I accept that majority agrees that stream advertisement is okay.

b) I stream advertise while expressing my opinion that I think it is not a good idea to do so

c) suddenly this is a problem for some reason


The logical error here creates a strong urge to
troll some more.

Note that I really am streaming sometimes at the advertised url, so it really is not much different from the other spam.

And at what point did this become personal, btw? :-( 
And No, I'm Not Trying To Piss You Guys Off 
This is just about those conventions we somehow implicitely agree upon. 
Ha 
But this might all be worth it for shambler's comments, which make me laugh every time. 
Time 
 
What Are Streaming Ads? 
I use adblock and Chrome. I honestly see NO ADS. Never once have I seen an ad. What gives? 
 
"b) I stream advertise while expressing my opinion that I think it is not a good idea to do so

c) suddenly this is a problem for some reason"

You did it in jest. You didnt actually stream anything.

The only point you proved was that youre willing to be petty about a non issue.

Go map. 
@megaman 
How's this for irony?

When he goes online -I get an email, an Android notification and I see the posts for ionous' Twitch streams. I am gonna go fix the email thing now. Thanks! 
Beef Blog 
Tonight I went to a shitty restaurant on a short stretch of the beach in Bali and had a terrible beef curry dish. It was incredibly tough and the cauliflower (?!) was barely cooked.

But at least I didn't see any ads for Twitch streams. 
@Pritchard 
On the beach in Bali?

I hate you. 
@P R I T C H A R D 
Did you experience an increase in flatulence? 
Spicy Shit 
A tropical escape is a good way to generate beef, apparently.

Gotta say that I'm enjoying the tucker up here, plenty of chilli available so that's been fun. Been getting the staff where I'm staying to throw one or two in my breakfast, toughens you up that does.

Sadly I'm coming home soon. Back to the daily stress of University study :( 
@Pritchard 
Well, watch a sunset for me...

I mean that in the most masculine way. 
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