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I'd prefer to be taken back to the forum page after submitting a post, with the thread I just posted in marked as read (see http://wouter.fov120.com/cube/forum.php4). Maybe make that a per-user option?
what if you want to reply to more than one thing / post more than one thing in a thread? I know i've done that sometimes on the old qmap. I do remember that qmap had little radio buttons for "come back here" and "return to the forum." Maybe i will make it a user preference on the account page.
That would be cool. Also, a reply feature like that on http://wouter.fov120.com/cube/forum.php4 would come in handy.
sadly, i can't get into the forum there. on the main page i get errors, and it says i must be new to the board or my account was deleted. So i click on "recreate my cookie" but that doesn't work -- after submitting my email i get more errors.
I know about that error, but I'm still unable to reproduce it. My best guess is: Delete all fov120.com cookies in your browser.
just to say if in the html layout, you could include some of the basic code for links and mailto like in old qmap.
i know its basic but sometimes i get a link wrong just because i miss a space in the line Valid Code: bold italic quote <a http://www.link.com>link</a> <a mailto:someone@somewhere.com>someone</a> Advanced Code Usage ^^^from peej i still have to explain what tags are allowed. And anyway, what is the standard html for a quote?
blockquotes aren't inline. Perhaps i could force them to be using CSS? But then they would no longer be what people would expect from something called 'blockquote.' Hmm...
< quote > or < q > atm?
i'd just leave it as < q > (if it is, or change it if it isn't) as it's faster... On the people page, when you click on the web site (for example Ziffons) it links you to http://celephais.net/board/www.planetquake.com/ziffon instead of the normal pq addy
metlslime you have done a great job!.....also is there any reason why we cant have the choice of editing our posts, or failing that, at least a preview button.
Most forums have these functions... but seriously, take my wife. Please.
but seriously, i plan to have a preview button. a feature to block double posts (so we save the self-embarassment after doing it by mistake). if it's rocket science then leave it. if it's easy enough to monitor whether the words are all the same then i hope it might be useful. dont pay me royalties. i already got 6 ferraris and 10 bugattis (i whish...)
It would be easyer to spot any new posts if it showed in an other colour than white.
And also, when logging in I have to: log in, change page go back and log in again to get it to work. (no biggie but so you know) alternate color, or bold, is one of the things on my list. In fact i was just working on it five minutes ago and then i read your post :)
re: logging in -- what happens if you log in once, and then on the next page, refresh it? yes, i should block double posts somehow. (ironically, this is not the first time someone has suggested that, and i said i would.)
log in suggestion does'nt work for me, but like I said it's no biggie once you know the trick. And I'm sure you've got other probmem solving things spinning in your mind right now.
I think new posts should be at the top.
I can only wonder how many others have suggested this? if you're logged in, the board keeps track of what posts you've seen. Then, when you come back later, there is a "new" link next to each thread, and if you click on that link, it will take you to a page containing just those posts that you haven't seen.
New posts at the top is just plain wierd. (Why the hell would I want to start at the bottom and read my way up?).
i dont mind which way but sometimes in other forums i get confused...its ok as it is. oh, you could have the links (people forum etc) also at the bottom for folks who dont like the home key (weirdos...:-P)
:P archiving i.e. http://blood.lith.com/forum.asp (i think)
there is a limit, there for posts and threads won't be "fricken huge and lengthy."
but i guess i don't understand what you mean by archiving. Haven't you seen the "view all threads" and "news archive" links on the forum page? say a thread, instead of being one long page, could be broken into extra pages instead of a somewhat lengthy wait for the entire page to load. I'm merely wondering moreso on the forum's benefit as a whole - it will get to a point where there will be so many posts and threads that viewing any particular thread will take awhile - when it could be archived for quicker retrieval and wouldn't bloat the particular thread it's relative to...
The last 25 posts thing is handy, but the General Abuse thread can get quite lengthy, and it can be a trick to go back more than 25 posts. You can, however, do this:
Visit the 25 last posts in the thread, and get the url at the top of your browser (or copy shortcut). Then edit the start=# part to a lower number, where you're guessing the intended post is. i know what you mean now. I plan to support "paging" through posts at some point, so you can have links like "next 25" "previous 25" or whatever. Sort of the way search engine results are listed. No idea when this will happen, though.
I realize the URL's are on their profile (if they have one) but I think it'd be convenient to also have it below their name on their posts maybe? As a text link or just a simple icon next to the name..
but if you can come up with a better Cube icon, i will use it -- the current one is a placeholder. Note that it has to be 15x15 with transparency
Whyever would you want your posts deleted? That would mean that all the posts that are referencing your would no longer make sense. For example, if your posts and account were deleted, no one would know who or what I was talking about in this post!
poor phait... take it easy man
btw, is it ok that I leave titles blank, or could it brake the board ? the beauty of the QMAP design is its simplicity, we dont need to mess with a winning formula.
If there's one thing I have to address, it's that misunderstanding, underworldfan.
I am not active here anymore because of a few people that ruin the whole reason why some of us come to #terrafusion - I realize func and #terra are not tied in, but I decided to just stop altogether. The fact that I could not redesign icons, is *not* the reason why I'm not active here. That was merely a suggestion, and I completely understand/accept metl's answer of 'no'. Okay, more like this:
LESSTHANqGREATERTHAN test LESSTHAN/qGREATERTHAN I think you know what to do with the "LESSTHAN" and "GREATERTHAN" parts. Thnx lt/gt had ocured to me, but I really got tired of trial and error. In future, I may just write up my comments as html and post links to the pages instead :P Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?
when my webhost upgraded their servers they must have changed certain PHP settings which affect how apostrophes are handled when inserting strings into a database. I will try to get the issue resolved, but in the meantime, everybody just leave apostrophes out of their posts -- Strunk and White would approve.
Could've guessed that by myself... So it's just a matter of addslashes() and stripslashes(). Go metlslime, go!
my code worked THIS way until they changed the PHP handling of single quotes on me.
People seem to be saying that Func_Msgboard is "eating" posts. I haven't experienced any eating, but it does give a DNS error when you use an apostrophe. If that happens, just use the "back" button on your browser and then remove the apostrophes!
the "eating posts" problem seems to be getting quite common, any ideas metlslime?
it allways works fine for me, BTW. actually, looking above seems like RPG [maybe?] already has the answer?? i wonder if its something to do with the length of the post, seems to only happen to people on long posts??
Longer posts mean that it's more likely that you're going to use apostrophes.
Moz just doesn't take me to another page when my post has 's, so I just keeping hunting them down and changing them.
Try a backslash before each apostrophy.
The reason the "messageboard eating posts" thing is such a problem is related to the apostrophy, yes. The killer comes when you push back and the text box is empty... Now there's irony for ya
btw, if you phear losing your carefully typed out post to the evile backbutton, try typing it out in notepad first :P i never lose the typing. have done in other sites tho (like when typing cvs (resumes) online.
notepad is a sensible thing to do notepad also allows you to search for all apostrophes and replace them with `
I usually copy the message into the buffer before clicking post. the `eating` is strange...
usually, when i press the back button, the text is still in the textbox, but sometimes, (seemingly at random?) the text is gone -- eaten. oh well, just gotta remember to use `... is there a list of <X></x> type html commands we can use? Perhaps under the `site` tab at the top?
just `cos there are retards out there (ok just me) who seriously forget this stuff every two days, or do something improperly and then gape at their botched post :P smiley tags aswell would be fab. cheers making the template wider so there is less shortening of html links and wazat can fit more in a post (well it makes it smaller in height)?
pretty much all the webpages i design use centered, fixed-width tables. see also:
http://www.celephais.net/ http://www.celephais.net/fitzquake/ http://www.celephais.net/solstice/ the fixed width myself... tho even at 1600+ resolutions its kinda tiny lookin... I just gives the whole thing a less cluttered feel...
`reply to post #` option
where the poster of the original message is notified on their next visit that they`ve been replied to specificly... I quite liked that about qmap... i think it may indeed help alot When you go into a thread, have link to show all messages in a thread. I usually go into a thread by clicking on the new messages wotsit, but once I'm in there, I read posts and wonder what fecking context they are in so want to see the whole thread... that make any sense?
I'll probably add that at some point, as well as 'paging' features. (For example, links that say "previous 25 posts" and "next 25 posts" etc.
What about adding a #top link to the bottom of each page... or putting the menu bar there?
I'd like to see a feature that give me more time to work on maps! And would you hook me up with a hot chick, too?
metl: any chance you could edit my latest posts in the Rag Doll Mapping thread? They are rather long and the incorrect tags might be annoying for some ppl.
Sorry, but i'm not going to set a precedent of going in and fixing people's spelling, grammar, formatting, content, or whatever. I don't even correct my own stuff.
Someday, i will probably have a preview button. metls teh lazy!
http://www.idontfuckingknowyet.ORG !!!! (no that is not a real link you twat!) . o O ( no 'twat' in particular, mind you ) ( or you ) ?
are you deliberatley not providing one just to annoy everyone, and is so why? :p Can't log in from opera. (posting from IE atm. I feel... amputated.)
I thought I remembered that there were some other people having the same problem, but after searching through here only mention of 'opera' is Paul making a gool out of himself. I dunno, anyone know anything about this? Scary thing is that opera worked just fine with this until yesterday or something, but now it just won't get the cookie or whatever it's supposed to do. (yes, I have checked cookie settings etc, they're all set to accept and yadda yadda yadda, now I've got a sore nose...) Got the problem too but it's easy to fix, at least it was for me...
Just enable 'referrer logging' and everything should be fine. Humm, yes I noticed that was enabled now and disabled before. Teaches me to not mess wih options I don't understand.
But wtf? just before I got here now I was logged out again, but the login worked fine this time. TBH I've been getting disappointed with opera lately, it seems to be getting less and less stable. I've put up a robots.txt file to tell spiders not to index view_user.php. So, in a little while your "user info" page will no longer show up in google's search results. This is the result of a request by someone or other. I'm also looking into email munging so that malicious bots can't harvest your addresses.
johnfitz AT u DOT washington DOT edu
johnDELETEMEfitz@u,washington,edu that sort of thing I think the NewS ThrEAds titles that aRe on the main funC_ page sHould be dated.
O_O <(theres a riddle in this post! AH!) Very bad wording. I meant there could be dates next to the posts under their respective areas such as: "Last 10 News Threads" "Last 10 Discussion Threads" etc
Have you got a func_ link button I can use for the ddlc? If not I can hack one up but I want t3h 0ff1<14l 0|\|3! :)
i see what you mean. I'm not sure there's room without breaking that onto seperate lines. If i ever make that page more customizable (in user settings) then that would be a nice option. For now, it's not going to happen.
it would probably be better if it said "go func_ yourself. Func_msgboard"
But either way, i'm weeping. I've modified the user cookie code. Now, if you log in on www.celephais.net, and you go to celephais.net, you will still be logged in. This change will take effect the next time you log in (after logging out.)
I've added a small guide to using markup on Func. This is on the "FAQ" page (formerly the "site" page.)
I've made a button for Func, so now there is an official one. I'll probably make an animated version at some point.
http://www.celephais.net/board/images/func_button.gif It has a crate and everything!
(Note: This post specially designed to have little or no genuine value) if you forget your password, and you provided a valid email address in your account info, you can now have the password emailed to you. (available from the "log in" page.)
Is there anyone who knows how to set a laserbeam in Quake1???
As it is only used in the MissionPacks it is hidden in the progs.dat Thanks for your attention. what metlsime meant to say was:
You have posted this question in the wrong thread. You should post it again in the "mapping help" thread. Sorry for using this board for the question.
First I thought metslime used brown ink, but now I see this wasn't a linguistic question... Thanks Wazat, I found it. I can't log in using opera7, but in my old opera6.02 everything is fine. Is it only my problem or a bug in func_??
Recently Inside3D and a few other telefragged-hosted sites have fallen prey to telefragged's neurotic compulsion to shuffle stuff around as frequently as it can affort to pay its staff to. The posting wasn't working at I3d and there were problems with loading the site at all early on.
Recently func_msgboard has been failing to load once and then will load fine on a second try, and other sites (fileplanet for one) have also shown similar problems. I don't know if those sites are actually all linked to telefragged in anyway; but if they are, they may be facing similar problems. So metl, just wanted to let you know, in a roundabout sort of way, that there have been a few blips here as well, but it's nothing permanent. Hopefully this site won't have any real trouble. I've modified the account page so that, if you're logged in, the password fields will be blank. If you want to edit other info but leave your password unchanged, then leave the fields blank and your password won't change. If you want to change your password, then type the new password in both fields. I tested it a little and it seems to work. Let me know if anyone has problems.
In order of priority:
1. search 2. poll capabilities with percent's 3. ability to post images in screenshots thread only (automatically shrunk to thumbnail size and linked to image url) 3. quote archive (a'la quotes.fov120) 1. Searching would be nice
2. Polls are just silly. 3. Clicking links is fine. 3. (err, just following the established syntax) You already have quotes.fov120.com. 4. PlanetQuake is fine on their own, but replacing FilePlanet is a good idea. Number 4, which I meant to be number 5, was mere sarcasm. I wasn't so sure about polls either, but maybe it could be useful. As far as screenshot thumbnails.. I think it's nice to get a preview of what we're about to look at.. instead of potentially wasting time with (potentially) big screenshots that (potentially) suck...
But oh well, they were just suggestions and not wishes. Except for 1. Polls are worthless and counter-productive of the 'discussion' nature of our site. If someone has something to say about the topic, they can come out and say it and express their feelings rather than choose a generic option.
Autothumbnailed screenshots is a waste of the site's bandwidth, user's bandwidth, and will also add unneeded complexity to the site's code. Wouldn't tons of thumbnails in that thread waste more of your (and everyone else's) time than clicking on a few 'shit' screens? Let's just stick with links, mmkay? But on that note, I do wish we could have proper link codes to do [a http://www.doodie.com] link to doodie! [/a] instead of just posting urls. RPG and you're own suggestion answered point 3. Why do another archive when one already exists? If you want to replace Planetquake/Fileplanet, I suggest you pony up the money and the time to do it yourself. Actually, php makes auto-thumbnailing images really easy.
Seems like everything in php is pretty easy or pretty hard, there isn't a lot of middle ground. my suggestion would be to have links open in a new window - I get a bit miffed when I'm linked to some interesting site, like a photo archive, and I eventually surf so far that I have to reopen one or other of the sites in a new window myself. I also agree with Scampie about the link code.
Everything else is quite spiffy metl, in a func_tional sort of way. Of course, you can never have too many smileys... I wasn't complaining, Metl's done a damn fine job here. They were merely ideas, and if anyone were in agreement (not), cool.
Although, Kell, hold down [SHIFT] and click a link. but what youre failing to take into account is that Im a lazy git
see? I didnt even punctuate that sentence :/ urls starting with "ftp://" will now become clickable just like ones that start with "http://" do.
well, stop it! The idea is to prevent accidental double-posts when people hit refresh after posting. If you manually hit back and then submit again, you're a dork.
well, a simple "map tracker" would be handy, for instance just a list of author|map|download location|site
And it should be searchable etc, would be very handy for a map db with download locations all in 1 place, and what better place is there than here? :) the closest I think of with regard to map listings is Pipeline, and Peekabooms site, both of which have slowed down a lot (I think peekabooms is dead???).
GIMME MAP DB! =) I honestly don't feel a need for map listings. Most maps will probably get listed and never released, and if you're that keen on keeping people aware of what you're doing then you can update your website on a regular basis or post a message in General Abuse (or both).
Having a database for map downloads would be cool in the short term; in the long term, most of the links will be broken. Had Func_Msgboard been built for it, there could have been a classification system for news items (map releases, tools, reviews, etc) in which case that could have been a nice archive. post them on your website, or someone can make a MapDB which is always out-of-date and incomplete and hard to maintain.
I'm trying to archive the contents of Func_ with a web spider and most of it works well. However, it can't seem to parse the view_all_threads and view_all_news pages.
There seem to be some difference between all the other threads and these two. My suspicion is that these seem to be read with the extension .php instead of .php.htm (which might be added by the spider). Is this intentional or could something be done about it? it's not intentional, and i can't think of why that would happen. Also, all pages on func are
most likely true. I've tried three different spiders and all seem to have problems with those pages. In one spider I got an error message that indicated that there was insufficient memory to load one of those pages.
What could it be that requires extra local memory on those pages? I could believe if it was the "General abuse" thread that caused this error but that works fine in all spiders. I *am* running Win95 but I seriously doubt that there's a problem with virtual memory. In that case it's one of the 64k resource heaps, but I doubt that too, I've got them monitored all the time. Any ideas? Have you tried wget? It's a pretty solid tool. There's a windows port with an acceptable gui for making the bat file.
tip, I've tried TelePort, BlackWidow and WebReaper so far. I'll take a look at wget. Still, if anyone knows why the others choke on those Func_ pages I'd appreciate a workaround (if there is one).
those pages probably contain more links than any other page. Maybe your spiders can't store that many links from a single page?
there are more links than e.g. "General Abuse" which has nearly one link per post (the user link), i.e. several thousands. Just parsing that page takes about 1/2 hour
another good spider is URLtoys: http://urltoys.gotdoofed.com/
tip. Similar to wget it also seems a bit more complex (and probably more powerful) to use than a standard WinGUI variant (of which there seems to be an abundance to select from).
I'd prefer something a bit more simple, I've used TelePort occasionally for a long time and I really like it but for some reason it won't work on those pages. I'll have to leave it for now, my phone bill's going to skyrocket if I continue these experiments ...worked fine for me (wget -rkp http://celephais.net/board). Ph33r gnu.
wget another shot. Thanks for the option tip, that seems simple enough.
/me downloads "General Abuse" once more but it's pretty slow since it appears to get all documents sequentially. Many spiders use multithreading for this. Oh well, you can't have all
I logged into Func this afternoon to see various new posts. The one at the bottom -- and hence the oldest -- was this one:
Painkiller - All 15, New 1 But when I clicked the link, there were indeed two new posts. I loaded the forum index and Painkiller thread less than a minute apart -- at approximately 14:30. The latest post was #16 (yes, 16; and the index still reports only 15 posts in the thread) at 13:55, so I know it wasn't added in the seconds between when I loaded the index and when I loaded the thread; and the Painkiller thread is still listed as fourth from the top. Wow that was even more unintelligble than I thought. Summary: 1) the thread index didn't report all the new posts, and 2) the thread index displays in incorrect post count for the thread. I've been suspecting something like this for a few days, but I haven't really had such obvious proof until now. I've also noticed for several days that something's wrong with the new post count.
this must be related to the database outages we had over the weekend. I think i can repair the data, so i'll try that tonight.
Am I just imagining things or is there still an issue with the new posts indicator? I seem to experience both that new posts are sometimes missed and sometimes indicated again although I've already read them.
I've had the same with post I already had read, some hours later they was indicated as new again.
memory, it appears most in the permanent threads. I'm rather sure that I've missed posts in the Mapping Help thread and repetitive new posts in the Screenshots thread.
Sorry to be vague, I wasn't even sure it was actually happening again. I've also checked each time that I've been logged in properly. A while (some months) ago, I sometimes wasn't logged in automatically and that was probably the cause of not getting new posts indications. it just happened with the mapping help thread. i checked the last 25, since there were no new marked posts there, but madfox's post *is* new.
it looked like the postcount field for Mapping Help was at 1899 even though it had 1900 posts. I synced them up, so now it should work. However, i didn't see any other threads with mismatched postcount. So hopefully that was the only one.
I thought this was a one-time thing, but perhaps not. If you see this happen again, please tell me which thread. There may be an actual flaw in code somewhere, or i may need to do additional data cleaning to get everything back to normal. I made a new cube icon. If you like it and want to use, though, you'll have to use one of my other icons as well... :P
It looks to me as if the Mapping Help thread is out of sync again!
Twice today I logged in and it said "new 1" when there was two new messages. Effects Of Graphical Advances On Gameplay?? thread 3 counted vs 4 actual
getting worse also, I can't trust the New indicator at all anymore. I always have to select Last 25 in order not to miss updates.
Even when there are no news indicator I find new messages in some of the threads when selecting last 25.
Fixed the post counts on speedmap thread and mapping help thread. I also made a small change to the code that might fix the problem of the numbers getting out of sync. Let's see if it happens again.
Italic tags
They serve the same function as underlines do in printed material. yes, but i accidentally used underline tags that don't exist in the speedmapping thread, and I'd rather metlslime just fix the issue rather than me look like a moron. ok?
and I'd rather metlslime just fix the issue rather than me look like a moron. ok?
I don't think metlslime fixing the issue will have any bearing on that ? Don't give into to the lazy shrimp! Print media survives with only one! There is no need for both! Don't give in! You will only encourage people to whine instead of learn how to properly use existing features!
And coloured text.
And signatures (with huge And avatars. And the ability to send electric shocks to other users. Actually, that last one would be cool :) anything that takes Metlslime time away from FitzQuake modding is something I can live without awhile longer.
Super Fractoid Detail Texture Shaders! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! Being the perverted fuck I am, I would hook the grips to my nipples, insult everyone and let you all blast away!
AhhhhAHHHAHHAHHAH It seems like I have found a bug here
If I press 'enter' on keyboard instead of pressing 'Submit' button I can post empty posts (post-posts=) without getting 'title/body should not be empty' message. See my previous post. The same happens in my post #325 when I accidently pressed enter instead of tab. It happens in Opera6 I use i can't replicate that error in either ie6 or opera7, perhaps it's just that version of opera?
If you have javascript disabled the submit button just sits there and does nothing (Firefox
You can disable some of the crummy things js can do to you (popups, removing context menus) in firefox without disabling js entirely.
Got to be careful; I took out a powergrid with that combo once. Sinchy was twitching for days on after.
This site is in desperate need of some new smileys/icons. The ones at SA always make me laugh. Same thing with kvr-vst.com -- they have some pretty funnny ones too. If you have time to waste metl, see if you can add some animated smileys/icons for a trial run, and if people don't like them, don't use them =)
there is no reason for anymore smileys, and if there is, make one and petition for metlslime to add it.
How about more game icons for more recent games?
farcry, doom3, etc logos will probably be needed at some point. Maybe just replace the dkt & ss smilies with newer games perhaps? from FitzQuake, please.
This week I want scriptable mouse driven windows and cocktail recipes that can be pulled up from the console. Thanks! Last night my girlfriend and I were engaged in foreplay, and she decided to involve our golden retriever! So she spread some Alpo on my testicles and whistled for Sparky to jump into bed. The dog immediately started lapping my nuts when I realized I was totally aroused and into it. So I decided to lick his nuts to return the favor. Needless to say, my girlfriend left me. Is she a total bitch or what?
Signed, Bob I was hoping we could reconcile our differences but it just hasn't worked out between us. Your small penis can no longer satisfy me. I'm moving with another man to the Bahamas and I'm taking the kids with me.
Please add the ability for me to ban everyone who I feel is a "dumbass" from posting. Thank you.
Also, I'd like a cheeseburger. Hold the cheese and bun. something to look into:
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=5521 I had nothing to do with the phantom post. the icons are on the g rated side. Not even a customary canabis leaf down there.
You could create a jizm streaming biohazard, and then what would you have to practice giving handjobs on?
http://scampie.spawnpoint.org/moo/bee_orange.gif
http://scampie.spawnpoint.org/moo/bee_yellow.gif better versions by Kinn. i like Orange myself http://photopile.com/photos/sloochyslooch/quakemisc/137402.gif
sorry, but i had to make the shading less intense :P ...though having read the last ten posts, that probably amounts to thread pollution. Erm.
I'm trying to register. After filling in all the fields except URL (cos I don't have one), hitting the Submit button does pretty much nuffink. Cookies, Java, Javascript et al are all enabled, and my browser is set to save form information. Mucking around with settings, turning off firewall and using a different browser (Firefox 0.9.3/IE 6.I.Can't.Remember) haven't helped either. Any ideas? but closing it down doesn't help.
I'm not sure if I checked the referrer thing. I'll take a look at that. At some point i should look at a way to get logins to work without referer logging enabled, since that's caused a problem for a number of people.
it was down most of the day for everyone in #tf, been slow the last couple hours here... perhaps server's having a bit of strain atm?
He is probably hanging around Haight-Ashburry as we write, shaking a tamborine and waving peace signs at tie bearing, Gucci wearing squares while the site burns to a crisp ,unattended.
This story was told to me by a friend who heard it on the news on the radio about a year or so ago. It is a factual account.
There was a girl and she was messageboard-sitting. Metlslime had gone out to a very big party and had left this messageboard at home with this sixteen-year-old girl. So she was messageboard-sitting and he phoned just to see if everything was all right. She said, "Oh, fine. Everything's great. The turkey's in the oven. Metlslime went, "Oh, okay, fine," and he hung up. Then he looked at himself and went, "The turkey's in the oven? We didn't have a turkey!" He said, "What's the matter?" So he decided he had better go home and see what was the matter. Maybe there was something wrong with the babysitter. He excused himself from the party and went home. So he walked in the house and saw the baby-sitter sitting in the chair freaking out. She had put the little messageboard in the oven and had thought it was a turkey. Due to a massive underground explosion in Baltimore, MD (story in Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20040920-111426-6516r.htm ), the datacenter lost power. The battery backup solution was immediately activated with the loss of power. Our secondary power feed, which comes directly from the city grid, was initialized. After the emergency power cutover, the city ordered the immediate shutdown of the power grid. This grid spans for 26 city blocks and disabled our redundant power solution. We immediately went to our third solution and brought in our generator.
Because of concerns from the Baltimore Fire Marshall that there could be further repercussions of the explosion in the area, it was decided to bring the servers down and wait until we were 100% confident in the power supply before bringing them back up. That would require a lot more moderating, and could get very tedious. I think its safer just to let a mod close a thread that really doesn't belong. But, I've never moderated, so I can't really know what it's like.
but i'm not a moderator, so i don't know how much mrore work that would be. it would certainly help though.
I'd imagine it would cause a lot of arguments over what constitutes a worthy discussion topic.
You should start by only allowing registered users to post new threads - that would cut out most of the bullshit anyway. You should start by only allowing registered users to post new threads...
That seems like a better solution to me. P.S. And let me add my voice to the many who want the Reset button moved or removed. actually, if i had thought of that, i would have suggested allowing only reg'd users to post as well. so, there's a vote for that then.
ditto on the reset button. so voila! Other stuff may come later. But I wouldn't mind more opinions on that other stuff.
One thing i'm worried about with the registered user thing is that i don't want people registering bogus accounts just to post one stupid thread... that would just result in yet another table (the user table) containing garbage data. Hmm, unless i made it so that you needed to wait some time (two weeks? a month?) after joining before you could create threads. Most random jerks passing through wouldn't care enough to wait around. Anyway, discuss please. One thing i'm worried about with the registered user thing is that i don't want people registering bogus accounts just to post one stupid thread... that would just result in yet another table (the user table) containing garbage data.
Not a problem if you ban/delete troll accounts That's just more work for poor metlslime, though. :(
And I'd rather not give that responsibility to the mods. moderator approval is cool, but with that we'd need a specific bit in the faq or at the top of 'create new thread' that explains the purpose of threads and what guidelines mods will use for deciding yay or nay.
I watch the site religeously, so threads wouldn't normally wait TOO long for approval. well, yes, banning dudes is work, but a forum comes with a bit of work, that's a given...
i think the waiting time after registering is a good idea, but too long a delay will probably stop good people from registering as well. maybe like 24 or 48 hours, 2 weeks is excessive. you'd register then forget about this place. :P banning and such should be handled completely by metlslime and done by an ip ban for any real abusers of the forum, not of whom we've seen here before.
delayed thread creation after registering doesn't help much when registered users make bad threads (see both food threads as a good example). the two week delay would only be for threads, not posts. And I still think anonymous posting is worth keeping.
Re: deleting accounts -- this creates orphaned threads/posts which is a data integrity problem. But more importantly, it encourages people to just register another account. Banning by IP is better. Has anything really happened that a couple of warnings to fuck off hasn't yet solved?
but what's wrong with having the capability?
even if you never turned your stereo up past 1/4 volume, wouldn't you rather have some pretty decent and powerful speakers so that that one day, where you throw a party, you can crank it up? IP bans for actual rogue abusers would be a metlslime thing and really aren't something that needs to be 'implented' as a simple script for blocking IPs to the /board/ directory of celephias.net is easily dropped into place.
I like the idea of approved threads best, so all things could be regulated let that, while still allowing everyone to make a new thread. With this, I'd also hope for the funtionality to create new threads from any old post, so that if one mod decides a thread isn't good but everyone disagrees, you could easily 'upgrade it'. And things like the food thread won't happen where the idea for the thread is an idea by many, and we end up with multiples. so, i write an algorithm that can tell when someone should be banned, whether a thread is worthy of being news, etc?
But I understand that your time is limited due to your pursuit of glasses-wearing Asian babes, so I would settle just for requiring a timelimit of 24 hours before allowing a new user to post threads.
I'm betting that most people who want to make a useful new thread have probably been visiting the forum for a while, and thus would not mind waiting 24 hours to start a thread. They'll be coming back to check on the forum anyway, so waiting a day will not cause them to forget about the topic. so, what you're saying is we should become further enthralled in our cause to drive away newbies by enforcing the old boy's club?
I think it would be a good idea to make "unupproved threads" visible to the general public in some separate, but easily visible link on the menu. After the thread gets a number (say 5) of approvements from forum posters, it gets added to the main thread list.
you mean, once the poster creates 5 dummie accounts and approves his own thread. or a coder posting his new mod project pimp finds 5 friends to come vote. or 5 of our own anarchist idiots vote yes.
i don't like the idea, but the idea of unapproved threads being visible to all sounds good to me. But I'm going to visit all those anyways and I bet most people would. That's just unecessary clicks for me and unecessary work for mods.
the point being that the unapproved threads wouldn't have posts allowed, and we'd be able to rid the shit threads easily.
get on irc, I need to speak with you privately about something I think you've been missing in this whole issue.
so, what you're saying is we should become further enthralled in our cause to drive away newbies by enforcing the old boy's club?
Wait. What've you been smoking? If someone wants to post a meaningful thread, they're already part of the club. There is effectively no waiting period because they've already joined. Furthermore, I would argue that having a thread-approval system would further increase strife and the supposed old boys club. We get into the position of you (meaning scampie) disapproving a thread, and spouting off harshly at the creator. This creates division. This would be especially true about threads that are in the gray area of worth. Furthermore, this also puts forth the opportunity for power abuse, which you have already shown us that you (scampie) are capable of and even relish in. This is why I dislike the concept of approving threads. power abuse
which is why I suggested the system of checks and balence of everyone being able to see unapproved threads, and the ability to make any post, which would include rejected threads, into a thread so any strong disagreement could be fixed. I hate the idea of forcing everyone to reg a free account, and wait any period of time, just to post. We have plenty of regulars who don't even have accounts, or don't like to log into them. The board should remain open, I'd just like to see moderation play a larger part in making things work smoothly. a better, well defined set of 'rules' in the FAQ so that everyone, including mods, knows what stands and what doesn't.
if the cookies are working and showing my screen name and new post enumeration, I'm logged in right?
if it at the top of the page, just under the logo at the end, it says Log Out then you're probably logged in.
maybe have no approval of new threads, but give power to remove threads to the mods, maybe if a thread has not been deleted after 24 hours if cannot be deleted. This would let mods & the users decide a threads fate relatively quickly.
deletion is bad, and if people start talking on the thread, it's not easy to move it without losing the posts.
Maybe you could just have a js popup warning people when they didn't close their q tag and probably suck at teh InTerNet.
http://blitz.circa1984.com/Blitz%20-%20Soul%20of%20a%20Parasite%20(In%20Memory%20of%20Vlad).mp3
http://blitz.circa1984.com/Blitz%20-%20Soul%20of%20a%20Parasite%20In%20Memory%20of%20Vlad).mp3 jkheopiuwerupoiu2487dfoifjpoi45870987bv(kjhelkjwhncfkjhwclerukh) jkheopiuweruposfasflkj;sdlkjfs;ldk%f;lfddsksjdf;lk%iu2487dfo%fjpoi4587098%7bv(kjhelkjwhncfk%hwclerukh) jkheopiuweruposfasflkj;sdlkjfs;ldk%20f;lfddsksjdf;lk%20iu2487dfo%20fjpoi4587098%207bv(kjhelkjwhncfk%20hwclerukh) hmm, i'm not sure exactly.
I did make a change about 2 days ago to allow hyphens as word breaks. So-a-long-string-like-this-no-longer-gets-truncated-by-the-board. But that URL only has one hyphen, so it should still get truncated. Maybe my new regular expression doesn't actually do what i thought it did :P http://blitz.circa1984.com/Blitz%20%20Soul%20of%20a%20Parasite%20(In%20Memory%20of%20Vlad).mp3 Test-this+is+a+long+string+of+letters+with+only+one+hyphen+in+it+so+it+should+still+get+truncated.
Metlslime-I-dont-think-you-should-have-mentioned-that-long-strings-like-this-don't-get-truncated-by-the-board-I-have-a-feeling-someone-may-abuse -it-or-exploit-it
I'm thinking IE and Firefox disagree on at what point a hypen gets to cause a line-break and when it gets to push out the container.
test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-test-
no long strings allowed in titles! FOR SHAME!... really, it already limits length!
It was idle speculation because I was at work. I just confirmed it now though. IE breaks post #458 where you intend, but firefox doesn't break it at all. I assume you're not useing the nobr tag.
necros: firefox and moz both use the gecko renderer, and are essentially the same thing. The only difference is that mozilla was a hogde podge of things that didn't belong together inherited from the Netscape project. Firefox is an attempt to set things right. I can't fathom why anyone would use IE though. i don't know much about the whole firefox and mozilla developements, i just keep it around for times when IE breaks down. ;)
so, firefox doesn't break words on hyphens. I guess that means i have to truncate long words even with hyphens.
-bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh
-bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh, -bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh-bleh bleh bleh bleh
-bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh-,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh,bleh, metlslime, does http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=11715&start=331 break the tables for you? I think it's Kell's post that does it.
acctually drunk piggies... like mary over there>
thats flippin rad man... woah i think im trippin on lsd woohoo thats so scarry... WTF WAS THAT EEEEEEEK!!!! but how easy would it be for you to archive the GA thread (and other similarly huge threads) out of the database before we hit a critical meltdown such as on qmap and qboard?
not that I'm currently worried, I had just been looking back at earlier posts in the GA thread, remarking on how wonderfully bored I am here with no games or mapping or anything besides download the 6555 posts in general abuse as many differant ways as possible. (there are 6556 differant ways, I counted twice to be sure.) i archive the database manually now and then, but only like every 6 months. I should come up with an automatic way.
you're worried that the size is the cause of meltdowns, and so i should save the old posts and then delete them?
While data loss is always a risk, i don't think we're really doing anything so unusual that standard database software can't handle it. exactly. but iirc qmap and qboard both died under the size of their own standard databases. perhaps grab the first 5000 posts of ga, and make an 'archive' section that is just plain html of each 1,000?
Been trying to login to my account here the last few days... But it just doesn't seem to work, I'm sure my login/pswd are right, but when I enter them, it just reloads the login page... wtf? Anyone had something like that?
Check your IE options for something like automatic page forewording or something like that... I know I used to not be able to login via Opera due to some of it's default security settings. Maybe even set up func_qmap to be a trusted site and have low security settings and try that.
in opera, make sure "referer logging" is allowed. In Norton Internet Safety Blanket or whatever, make sure that "send referer" or "allow referer logging" or something is checked. If you have other software that might block this information from being sent, see if you can find a similar setting in that, too.
Ah yeah, was norton internet security thingy getting in the way (I had tried disactivating it, but it seems to need to stay off for like 10 minutes before it actually starts working, bleh).
Not on my usual PC, dont have that stupid software on mine. =) Thanks metl. can you tell me the exact wording of the Norton Internet Thingy option and which state it needs to be in? I will add that and the Opera setting to the site FAQ.
No I can't, the options are quite unintuitive (probably doesn't help that it's translated in French, and all my computer knowledge is rather in english).
My solution to the problem was: Turn the whole stupid thing off. =) Once you've logged in it seems you can turn it back on, and I stay logged in fine (even after rebooting the machine and all, kinda weird). thanks anyway. I suspect there is a way to rewrite the func login code so that it doesn't need the page referer to work. I should probably just try to do that.
I was thinking it'd be nice to have a section somewhere here (at the top with the nav) that has a list of links to good resources on mapping and/or essential maps/packs to get.
Seems like post previewing works!!!! Let me know if there are any problems. Note: nothing gets saved in the database until you hit "submit."
clicking on 'comments' links on the front page news stories is borked... looks like your recent changes fucked the thread id code for them.
doesn't seem bork in IE6...
Using Opera and the comment links are now (removed everything before view_thread.php to avoid truncation): ?id=%3C?=%2028913%20?%3E it IS bork in IE6... fucking cache tried to mess with my head... looks like some rogue < > symbols got added to the thread's id #
thanks. it really was borked, but it's fixed now.
AS for preview/submit button order... doesn't it make sense that the intermediate action be to the left of (i.e. come before if you read left to right) the final action? doesn't it make sense that the intermediate action be to the left of the final action?
Yes, a whole heap of sense. But when has that ever figured largley in our community design? :P it makes sense in theory, but those of us who've posted on qboard/qmap/func are used to submit as the first button.
"HALF-LIFE 2 - All 226, Last 25, New 4"
Yet, when I clicked on the "New 4" link, I only saw 2 posts. I was thinking it'd be nice to have a section somewhere here (at the top with the nav) that has a list of links to good resources on mapping and/or essential maps/packs to get.
Stuff like these articles: http://www.peej.co.uk/projects/quake/ I can't load all the posts in the GA thread. Loading too many gives an Internal Server Error. start=59 will work (when the total posts equaled 6930) but start = 58 won't.
Granted, most previous posts are just babbelings about bugs and things when the site was new, but this could become more of an issue as the thread increasingly grows bigger. yeah, i think there's some sort of page size or query size limit on the new server... I'll have to look into it.
maybe you should replace 'Preview' and 'Submit' buttons with each other, I mean it should look:
[Submit] [Preview] it makes sense the way it is because you go from left to right, start with preview then submit.
a good point, but I usually don't use preview fuction and I'm used to the left position of the submit button as it was with 'submit' and 'reset' buttons
Why not just one button, submit or whatever, which automatically goes through a preview stage prior to actually submitting, requiring you to press submit the second time to confirm, like, sought of, kinda thing ? No, oh well.........
Wrote post in Film Thread (post #1010). Hit submit, page reloaded, my new post wasn't there. Retyped post from memory, hit submit, and there is the second one as post #1011.
Func_Msgboard ate my post. Half the time I type a post and hit submit, and the form clears without making a post. Refreshing does nothing.
metlslime, I've just figured out at least one reason that null posts are being formed. Somehow when I load a thread, sometimes there won't be an icon selected by default in the Post A Reply area. If I hit submit after typing a post but without rectifying the no-icon-selected problem, it increases the thread post count without adding a new post.
I tested this just now in the Stories thread, and that's what happened (it's post #31). I tried making a post before it (post #30) which resulted in a null post, but I don't remember whether an icon was selected or not. Yeah, I loaded the page at first and none of the radio items were selected, and the post wouldn't post.
Good work detective RPG! here's what I saw in the faq page:
There are 4 registered users online right now: , blitz, Kell and PuLSaR. What does comma do before the blitz's name? Or there an invisible user around here? I always travel with a 2 person entourage...today I've brought the Invisible Man along with me.
I wonder if the null post problem is associated with Firefox, because I've never had that problem before I recently switch from IE. Also, this problem seems to have become increasingly common as Firefox has gained popularity.
thanks for the clue, RPG. So the radio button problem is inconsistent? Is there any pattern to it?
When you preview a post, and then hit "back" in your browser, the radio button for the icon goes away.
That's how I produced the blank post above. But, on a side note, why would you hit "back" after previewing your post? The preview page has an edit box, and a preview and submit button. You can just keep going forward, never backwards (and always twirling towards freedom...)
I think I've got the invalid icon bug fixed -- i added some server-side validation that should chatch that and a few other problems.
Note: another thing i added is a block to prevent both title and body from being empty. So watch out!!!! I've now updated the javascript validation to be consistent with the server side validation. I also fixed the stupid flaw in my javascript that let you type just a space for body and title and submit. So hopefully, you'll never see a server-side error message.
And yes, i was screwing with the posting code for the last hour. Sorry shambler :) As a bonus, here's Cthulhu nigiri! http://www.antipope.org/feorag/artwork/beermat/cthulhu-nigiri.jpg without my Chopsticks Of Ultimate Horror.
Nice work with the forum code, metlu ;) why would you hit "back" after previewing your post?
Because people on the internet are stupid and will do anything possible to screw up anything possible in any possible way. (Like making blank titles.) well, if you're going to stop blank titles from working, at least have the default titles then? (although, it appears that it is still allowed?)
I also fixed the stupid flaw in my javascript that let you type just a space for body and title and submit.
Let's check if it's true, if it is, than you're a bad guy, metl i think he meant that the title AND body could be empty before. (which is no longer the case)
i think javascript and server-side validation can now both stop people trying to post with a body that only contains html tags, such as an open and close italic tag.
Let me know if there are any problems. I even thought it's impossible now, but after few attempts (I think preview button some kinda helped me to it, but I'm not sure).
The body is empty tags and spaces, title is just spaces I think nobody will do that now, cuz it's not easy now and takes much more time. Ok, I give up for now. I can't believe you locked down the obscure space characters and the vertical tab. Those last two posts are me trying to submit with a system bell and some other npc. :)
I salute you Pulsar. If you look on your account page, you will see that there are two new features to play with.
First, you have the choice of whether you want your func homepage to be the news page or the forum page. This means when you come to www.celephais.net/board/ and you're already logged in, it will display the page of your choice. (Logged out people still see the news page.) Second, you have three choices for how to display your email address on the user details page (that's the page you see when you click on someone's name in a post, or on the "people" page.) You can have it displayed as a clickable mailto link (as it is currently,) or you can have it displayed in munged format (joe -AT- blow -DOT- com,) or you can have it completely hidden. I encourage all of you who have hand-munged emails in the database to update your account with your real address, and then choose "Munged" as your email display option. This way you can recieve an email when you forget your password. melt, here's the explanation of how to do it:
title: that's simple - just type a few spaces. body: I typed a few spaces (not sure if it is necessary), then I opened bold tag, typed more spaces and closed the bold tag. Then I clicked the preview button to check if it worked and voila! I hope that will help you. btw new features are nice I just got on a half hour ago and it's been real slow here. I see several new posts all over, but getting to the sections and back takes at least a minute or more. Anyone else?
Being able to get right to the main forum page when I log in is a cool feature - thanks!
I've had the forum page linked in my custom homepage and click it to go there, and am always logged in. Either way, 'cool' on the new features, even though I'd prefer edit function over Preview. can we please get a set of 'please post questions on mapping or any non-debatable topic in general abuse, mapping help, or screenshots and bettas' with links to them all (would be cool to be like on the forum index to go to all posts, new posts, last 25).
will cut down on random people making new threads, us not helping them and just telling them to post elsewhere. Func_ was down again this morning when I arrive at my office (7:30 here in France, that mean 23:30 for server...).. Was it expected, or is it again an "unwanted server-down" of the provider ??
It seems it occurs more often than before the server change... isn't it ?? What's your opinion about these minor problems ? is that they suck. I hope the service doesn't continue to be as spotty as it has been in the last few days. There have been no planned downtimes since the server move.
You're right, they suck... the service they provide is not as good as we expect... Anywa, I hope, like many of us here, they will solve their fucking server stability problems in the future...
Pinging or looking up directly via ns{1,2}.dnsjunction.com doesn't seem to work either.
Is DNS and hosting all part of the same package? the same company sells me hosting and dns. Whether it's the same company providing the actual services, i don't know.
This is Scampie, posting from another proxy our mysterious proxy poster is using, seen here:
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=3&start=1758 This new proxy's site is: http://anonymouse.ws Here's a list of proxy's that someone may use and their offending IP ranges. http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?BecomingAnonymous I suggest banning them all, or, adding code to func_ that will ensure you're posting to the board, from func, not from a site dynamically mirroring func. is sometimes very slow or can't be established at all. Are there problems with the new server?
I had a 403 error (forbidden access) for 1 hour this morning.. Someone else noticed it ?? When this fucking apache server will be stable ?
.. Please write your letter, the server was down again this morning (server hour near 04:00) during 1 hour... Is it planned to stop ne day ??
at least this time there was a message on the webhost's main site (globat.com) saying they were moving to new servers to help speed up the websites. So i'll wait and see if 1. there's any speed up, and 2. there are no more outages.
So I'm not 100% happy with it yet, but it's probably going to be this logo for a little while, until i figure out what i need to do to finish it.
My main complaint with it right now is that I don't like having two crates in the logo. So I plan to find a different brown background image. It's more prominent, and just overall better. Maybe the crate could use a tex though. And maybe a little 'slogan' or something below func_ "Mapping community" or somesuch.
For BG image, maybe something that epitomizes mapping or is more obvious. i like the title image too. I think the small crate would be better left unskinned. I agree that 2 crates in the image is too much, but I don't think any sort of mapping grid background picture would be very good, its so cliched. It might need a 'slogan' or something as Phait said; more precisely: something that describes the purpose of the board, as currently it's not immediately obvious to first-time visitors.
Visually, i think there needs to be some seperation between the "News / Forum / People.. thing and the main content of the title graphic. Maybe a black bar running along the bottom of the image, which the crate could overlap slightly. As it stands, where the menu bar and the graphic meets, it looks a little messy. Just a few thoughts, I'm impressed with it though. Crate there makes me wish the logo bit had a random icon put up there... just the cool ones... crate, cheese, pig, pimp hat, some of the game icons. would be alot of work I know, but it's a nice idea.
I wrote a PHP script that pulls a random quote out of a
If you really want a set, a specific amount, I'll happily design them. I need a break from the PHP learning/work I've been doing.
We would have to include the Neutral emoticon so we can accurately express the melancholic state that our anti-social user base tries so hard to repress.
I had a title with exactly 70 characters, and Func still complained when I tried to submit it.
But not all the post icons are mere characters; some are emoticons, and emoticons are actually 2 characters at minimum. Since that is true, the message should be something more like "Title cannot be more than 70 characters, or 69 depending on which post icon you use."
Creating all of the high-res icons is still work. Though, i've sort of considered it :P
What's wrong with just scaling them up with width and height in the html, like on the front news page? It has a nice retro-gamey kind of style that suits this board well. I think a site update tracker would probably be more worth the time though. does that mean you got past the javascript, but the following page popped up an error message in red?
clicking on a thread
white screen say SQL error http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=29791&start=15 that URL works for me. Can you give me more information about how you made the error happen?
i can't repeat it, so it's probably not a real bug i guess. But if it helps, i'm running XP SP 2 with Firefox 1.0
The forum was down during the last 4 hours !!!! metlslime, go write this insult letter to the provider... hurry up !!
I agree, but since the server change, the site is down many times per week now, for many hours most often... and many much more time than it was before (with the previous server...) so WTF with this new provider ?
Yes, my point is, I'm sure it bothers Metlslime enough that he doesn't also need people on the board complaining about it all the time.
This may be a public forum, but that doesn't mean it owes you anything, Metlslime can do whatever he wants with it. I know... metlslime is certainly bored with us (i.e. the "complaining guys...") :P
So now I really think metlslime have to write this letter he planned to write a few weeks ago... Anyway... you have to admit the forum is less stable than it was before the server/provider change... end of the story... ;P You are a func_msgboard junky!
Nothing wrong with that, of course. Just thought I would throw that accusation out there. Now let us go back to the main menu and hit F5 every ten minutes ;) was this 4 hour outage the only one in the last couple weeks? I haven't been online for the past 4-5 days, but before that it seemed that the uptime was much more stable after the server upgrade a few weeks ago.
I have to admit there was no server down since last week.. and now it seems to be more stable, so perhaps I tried to connect when they were working on the server (Friday 04 of march in the morning here in France..)... Anyway, let's hope it will not occurs any more often in the future..
I can't think of anything I did to merit an IP ban, so perhaps this is a domain level thing? If not, at least tell me to fuck off to my face.
(I know this is Site Help, but it somehow seems the right place) Just kidding.
-ChanServ- *betruger*!*@* czg 2 days and 10 hours Never Evil scientists not allowed! I just removed that, try it now. I've been caught by the Betruger ban too. How am I supposed to talk about Doom3 without being allowed the odd Betruger laugh every now and then? :P
I changed the date to 2006 (on my PC) and func_ didn't allow me to log in.
I totally forgot about that changing of date and when I changed it back to 2005 everything started to work as it should. Strange I don't know if it's related to the evil anonymous posts, but the Book thread just showed 76 new posts. Is the board hacked?
the cookie only remembers who you are. The database stores the highest numbered post each user has seen in each thread that user has visited. I assume that aquire hasn't viewed the book thread in a long time, and that it just got bumped so he now sees it in the "latest threads" list.
then there's something strange about how it stores the info metl, because it always seems that when a thread get bumps from the depths of the archives, there's a random, meaningless number of 'new' posts. I've never given it a second thought, just assumed 'whatever, it's an old thread the board likely doesn't bother saving which posts I've seen in those threads.'
it always seems that [there's a] meaningless number of 'new' posts.
I'm not sure how you define "always" but I think that's only happened to me once (at the most) out of all the bumped threads in the history of Func. I am very anal about reading all posts on the board, which would explain this "bug's" exceptionally rare occurance for me; and also explain why I'm not even certain it's happened at all. So I'm willing to bet (Tibet?) that you guys just forgot to read those threads; especially since they're usually the meaningless ones. there's a flaw in the design of the forum page in that it only displays the ten latest threads, even if there are more than ten threads with new posts. So if you go away for a week, and 12 threads get posted to, when you come back you will only see 10 of the threads, and not realize there might be additional threads with new posts.
That's not a flaw; it's a feature! It encourages people to read the board on a regular and frequent schedule!
Site Help
Yes this site needs help It seems to be full of 'has been', wanna be's, or maybe that should be 'never were, ' wanna be's. With a few noteable exceptions (and no, your not one of them Eyebrow) namely bal, czg and vondur Please ignore the obvious troll, this thread is for Site Help not silly drama. Let's try and maintain some intelligence.
Thank you for proving that you're both so moronic and uncaring about our forums that you just had to continue the derailment of this thread. Now go map.
I get teh intarweb error 403 for all day apart from now and when I was on tarweb earlier.
I am forbidden from the fruit but I am hungry. Plz help Someone has posted sounding like a horrible drunk who has the IQ of a rock.
Plz help (this isn't teenl33t speak corner DaZ, please talk like a real person, especially when reporting problems with the forum) I've been seeing 403s and the occasional timeout quite a lot in the last couple of days.
unusually high access latency lately. I've noticed that before as well; it comes and goes.
Yesterday morning I had a 403 Forbidden Access Error like mwh has, and since the site has been accessible, it is extremely slow... by slow I mean really slow (at least 5 minutes to open a single page)... Metlslime: please kill the provider and replace it by a powerfull one !
How many times have they promised to fix things?
This has been constantly lagging and unaccessible. :C You have only one thing you can do - move someplace else. I was joking when I said inactive. I know you are aware of this problem (Kinn seems to think the opposite... o_O
I would not like you thought I "flamed" you for the website provider lack of performances.. and don't say it's too late please !!! Thousands apologizes if I hurted you.. sigh.. ironically, that's the least helpful error you can get from Func. It happens when the function to display an error message causes another error :P
Anyway at the moment, func seems to finally be running fast again. Back to normal, for the moment.
It sucks mightily that it seems to be so out of your hands, though. Everytime I try to view the general abuse forum I recieve an internal server error. what's up?
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He's a classic.
He was fired from my university's cs department for roughly, giving actually advice to people and doing generally useful stuff. On the preview page, the post title needs to escape quote signs in the title input tag value:
value="elephants are gay "and so what I hear you say" nuttin'" vs value="elephants are gay "and so what I hear you say" nuttin'" THIS BUG IS KEEPING ME FROM REALIZING MY FULL ARTISTIC POTENTIAL AS A SPECTACULAR FAGGOT AND I WANT MY MONEY BACK. sorry for spamming, but if you put in a closing textarea tag, you can write stuff on the preview page after the input box like so:
http://czg.spawnpoint.org/stuff/1337haxor.jpg I'd love to use this thread to complain that fncu is running slow again, but it's taken me so long to get onto the board I never made it to this thread =/.
The issue mentioned above with General Abuse thread not being possible to get from the start, will that be solved? I have to start from >1000 to avoid a server error. Is it caused by your code or is it some webhost limitation?
Are the first 1-2k posts lost or are they just blocked from retrieval? Is it possible to request an interval? must be a webhost configuration thing -- there's probably a maximum SQL result size.
One of the major features i want to add to func is "paging" where you basically browse through a thread page by page -- like google results. In the meantime, i should probably add an "end=whatever" querystring variable, so you could specify a range. Either that or a "count=whatever" variable. There'd be no UI, but at least it would provide SOME sort of access. Pages would be more welcome sooner than a search function, actually.
BTW, if you're not already there, could I drop a func_ link banner in at ModDB's links list? Unfortunately it seems some people there aren't aware of func_ -- someone said my work posted there was godly and I quickly refuted that point and showed them some releases here at func_ ;) Those features would be great, but as I also sometimes fetch entire threads for archiving purposes, I'd like to be able to get the whole thread in one package as well. Is it possible to ask the webhost to raise the SQL result limit?
I'd have to look into it more. Maybe what i should do is just set up some archive dump process that spits out a file that people can download.
the obvious, but the site access latency is now around 1-2 minutes. I'm curious, what is causing these high latencies?
... sometimes this morning it was not accessible at all ! And I needed to retry many times before having something on screen...
Was there any server update or something else ? Globat.com will be performing network maintenance during our maintenance window this weekend in the period from Sunday, August 7th at 11:00pm (PST) to Monday, August 8th at 6:00am (PST). Although we do not expect your site to be down for the entire time, we want to make sure our technicians have enough time to correct any unexpected issues that may arise.
when i get that, i can usually "refresh" and it works again. But i ought to fix that error message to be more descriptive.
Was wondering, have you considered getting a shorter, more representational dedicated domain for func_?
there's no need to do that. I think most of people are so used to this domain (at least I am).
If you change your mind, I'd pay for it. What's $8? ;)
While I do have the site linked on a custom home-page my browser users, I'd imagine a dedicated URL would be easier for others. Have you changed the forum post headline font lately? I find it a bit harder to read on my system.
I think it outrageous that Func_msgboard doesn't have a FavIcon. Please resolve this issue immediately. Also, please add some popups and the obligatory Google Ads - thank you. ;)
Is as slow as fuck at the moment. We're talking an uber-delayed tantric sex 3 day fuck at that.
Seems to be GMT-8 according to French timezone..
Shambler sent a message at 06:00, when here we have 15:00, and we are GMT+1 (in summer time) or GMT+2 in (winter time)... I guess the server is located in near California... Metlslime, could you confirm please ? metlslime I know you are a busy busy bee, gathering honey for your queen, stinging overweight picnickers, and so forth, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you just haven't had a chance to look into the slowness factor.
I think you mentioned before that it might be the code, but it could very well be Globat's Amish Server Collocation powered by the will of the Lord and a sturdy loom. Thing is it seems to only be intermittently slow.
Maybe i'll set up some stuff to track load times. It seems that if you have a " character in the title and hit preview, the " and everything after it disappears in the form on the preview screen.
A bit of view sourcing suggests that you need to escape the " in value attribute of the <input> in the form... could the "New X" text in the forum headlines list be a bit more saturated color. It's so close to white now that on some crappy lcd's (dell 1704fpt) it's hard to tell it from white. Thank you.
...but the personal attacks coming out of IP 85.185.123.22 are starting to disturb me. We've had flame sessions and name calling sessions before but this stuff seems malicious.
As you probably know this IP has been banned from Wikipedia after much abuse. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:85.195.123.22 I know it's only a temporary IP as The People's Internet Inc cycle through IPs but they don't seem to be able to police there own. Meh, Best Mapper is a stupid devisive thread anyway and awards for mapping/modding/PCs/TCs etc happen in the new year already anyway, so why not close the thread. $0.02 I think the thread would not be closed, however it should not have been opened by "external func_ morron"... I just mean that it could be possible to allow only registered users, and also logged users, to post in, and create threads... It's a little bit harsh for extra users, but efficient against stupid people... We saw too much examples these last months :(
As well, creating account could be secured just providing a "real" email, that need to be checked automatically (i.e. you create your account, and you obtain in return a beautifull automatic mail reply stating that your account is now activated...) I don't know how long such a task need, but it is feasible for sure... I already saw that on othr website... And the most important: metlslime, what do you think ? PS: distrans, where are my background textures ? ;) the best mapper thread is a retarded thread started by a pathetic fuckwit. Some people decided to run with it and turn it into a legit thread (and thanks btw, for the nice words many of you posted about teh marcher), but I never had any intention to post in there myself.
Also ^ what JPL said about only registered users posting (and email validation in the registering process would be good too, if it's possible to implement) I'm hesitant to give up the openness that we have -- it's nice to know that if someone from another clique (like mapcenter, or lvl, or quakesrc) can post here on a whim. Outsiders like that, which we should welcome, probably wouldn't create a whole new account just to post some simple comment. But there may be some changes I could make that would reduce spam without inconvieniencing people.
but what's wrong with just making it possible for the moderators to delete spam posts/threads?
Yes, at least it would either discourage morron to post here, or discourage moderators to delete posts regarding the amount of stupidity posted these last days :D
OTOH I admit that the actual openess is good... I'm the first to look to other forum or Quake related website (Quaddicted, planetquake, etc..) and at least read what's going on... posting is an other story.. Quaddicted forums and comments are totally open too. And I'll leave it as it is as long as Shambler does not post more than 10 comments per day: http://www.quaddicted.com/content/view/220/
>:P I delete them once a day, about 4-5 per day. Openness > 1 minute work for me. It's something different here of course. Really? I'd just include a "copy.txt" that you can edit anytime. That or have a tiny script that prints the range of years (i.e. 2002-2006)
Why did you hide this cute dog?
http://www.celephais.net/board/?=PHPE9568F36-D428-11d2-A769-00AA001ACF42 :D (Try that suffix on other php sites. Like http://www.quaddicted.com/?=PHPE9568F36-D428-11d2-A769-00AA001ACF42 ) Funny, isn't it? Would it be possible to implement RSS feed for func? I'm not familiar wit this stuff, but getting all new posts immediately to the pc would be cool.
actually, i've already made one, though i never got around to polishing it and adding a link from the main page.
http://www.celephais.net/board/news_rss.php Also, it appears to be broken right now. one of the news items had a backquote in it. I replaced it with an apostrophe and it works now. Have to look into setting the proper encoding in the xml tags, i guess.
well, that's a possibility, but i'd have to decide what exactly it would do. Customized feed per user? Should it uncheck the "unread" flag when you view the feed? Etc. Etc.
As for me it doesn't need it to be customizable it also doen't have to uncheck the unread flag. But this is only my opinion.
Isn't it the RSS client's task of marking items in the feed as new?
The feed supplied by the site only needs to send out the last 25 posts, and the client will check it regularly and notify the user when there's new stuff. There could be a link at the bottom/top of each thead to it's appropriate feed, something like
http:// www.celephais.net/ board/ thread_feed.php?id=2 and then return the proper xml for the thread. Note: I wouldn't use a feed anyway, I'm just saying... With "new post" I was meaning new posts since last RSS update. But maybe I don't understand everything right. I don't know how rss is working. For me it would be enough if the rss feed would be automatically updated every 10 or 30 minutes with a message about new posts if threre were some. But i guess this needs something more than RSS.
I don't know the official pronunciation (it's taken from an H.P. Lovecraft book) but the way I pronounce it is "sell uh face."
odd, I always interpreted the word as being a bit french, with the "ais" having a silent "s"
Metl, have you considered adding a CSS a:hover so the link color changes when it's pointed too? I think that'd add a welcome "feel" to using func_
seems off and on.
Do you guys think it is slower than last week, or about the same (ignoring the internal server errors?) I got Internal Server Error several times yesterday... Did the provider make any updates on the server ? I also experiment speed and latency huge changes
I didn't see that neg!ke already shout about the internal server error... sorry...
To answer you metlslime: this morning it is rather fast... but how long will it work like this ? That's a good question ! We all experimented so big differences in latency and speed access these last ddays, regardless of access error, that I hope it will not change any more from now... as I said I got again an Internal Server Error yesterday evening... Sounds weird: sometimes it works perfectly (not so much latency, good speed), and sometimes it slow as Hell.... o_O
Any Idea ? don't know about anyone else, but it was nearly impossible to access func yesterday, as it almost always was giving those internal server errors.
when it does load, it seems even slower than usual too. :( still, i got to post this time! :D Func is either s-l-o-w or unavailable due to the aforementioned server error in the A.M. on the East Coast. But it seems to pick up in the P.M.
Same problem here. Site not responding at all or some error about maximum process limit exceeded, or something. Or a recursive SQL error.
i have a hunch it's during peak load hours.
Yes, it happened very often in the afternoon (French time)... and it's boring... Is there a way to avoid this issue ? in the evenings (europe), it more often than not:
1) doesn't load at all 2) gives internal error (process limit exceeded) It works really only in off-load hours. Which sucks. Are there any actions in planning? Cause this board rocks and I hope good stuff will be kept going on in here. (Just look at the latest goings in mapping help for example!) when it works fairly fine, it's intolerably slow when being logged in. why this difference?
btw. what about a 'mark all threads read' option? when it works fairly fine, it's intolerably slow when being logged in. why this difference?
btw. what about a 'mark all threads read' option? when it works fairly fine, it's intolerably slow when being logged in. why this difference?
btw. what about an 'mark all threads read' option? FYI, func_ works faster when you access as guest (unlogged)... no "url cannot be reach", no "no internal error"... Metlslime ? Any idea ?
when it works fairly fine, it's intolerably slow when being logged in. why this difference?
btw. what about an 'mark all threads read' option There is a difference between being logged in and logged out -- logged in people get a SQL query which includes their userid when visiting forum.php, while anonymous users get one that doesn't contain a userid. MySQL caches queries, so if you're not logged in, there's a good chance that your queries will have already been processed for someone who visited just before you, and so it can come out of the cache, which is a lot faster.
But this doesn't mean as much for the news page, the view_thread page, etc. it fucks up most of the time, even if you're on a computer with no cookies - thus unlogged. It won't load func, either you get a zero sized reply or timeout or process limit exceeded.
What's happening today ?! It's working so fast I can't remember when it happened last time... ;)
Did you change anything in your php code ? Nevertheless, it's cool to see all is workig fine now... I hope it will be stable more than today :P ...might be faster now. Thanks to Sleepwalkr for the tips.
Let's try it out this week and let me know how good/bad things are. It seems quite a bit faster than it has been for some time now. But still not like it used to be, but a definite improvement over recent times, for me thus far anyway.
*crosses fingers*
maybe i can post more than just random links now ^_^ There has definitely been a nice improvement since the changed DB code. I have had no errors, and the site has loaded everytime I tried to access it; albeit frequently it still takes five seconds to get a response.
it's taking me quite a bit longer than 5 seconds the majority of the time (usually around 30 seconds) but it does load consistently, so that's something. thanks :)
I'm actually able to open func pages in tabs without waiting forever for just the 2nd one to load.
isn't it possible to just delete the entire posts (number #823-#8xx) instead of only their contents? or does the db-code not allow it?
okay, i just banned my first IP on func.
If i delete the posts entirely, that would probably screw up the code that assumes the posts are sequential and stuff... i'm not sure exactly, but when i first wrote the DB i decided i didn't want to delete posts. Now, what i will likely do is censor the posts so that you can't see them. The moderator tools to do that don't exist yet, though. i've intentionally made the error messages obscure to prevent people from using them to attempt to hack the board. I should probably set up something to log the more descriptive error so that I can see what's happening, but it wasn't something that I thought happened very often or consistently.
That was the first time I had seen that in a long time. It was also the first time a board error ate one of my posts.
But why does it go backwards in increments of 50 and forwards in 5? Is this some crazy UI Zen you have thought up, meltshine?
I seem to have gotten thread paging working in its most basic form. By default, links to a thread will show the first 25 posts (instead of all posts.) You can still see all posts by editing the "start" and "end" variables in the URL. If you post to a thread regardless of what page you are viewing, it will bump you forward to show the most recent 25 posts, with your post at the bottom.
- Number of posts per page will eventually be a user preference. - I might eventually add "first 25" and "last 25" links as well. - I'm not sure if this thread navigation needs to go both at the top and bottom of the post list or just one place, or what. - I might need to change the wording of the links on the forum page. When there are less than 25 next or previous posts, it displays the number of actual next or previous posts. So there were only 5 next posts in that case.
The 50 was because I was playing around. 25 will be the default for now, while I work on getting a user preference for it. Very good addition metl, first/last would be a nice addition yeah.
And maybe add a little black line above the links, to separate them from the last post. =) I'd prefer to keep the same "load entire thread" vs "last 25" as now and use the paging only for the latter. At least I'd like a separate link to get the entire thread.
Most threads are either relatively short ones (no problem loading entire thread) or very long ones (very few would probably want to page through it all from the beginning). I'd like to see the Next/Previous 25 links at the bottom, seperated by a black dividing line like Bal said.
just modify the link at the top where it says "start" and "end", go to the end of the thread, then set "start" to 0, and that will load the whole thread.
I'm undecided on whether to have a link to load the entire thread or to force people to edit the URL. One of my goals was to remove "load entire thread" as a default or easy choice, becuase I think it's a bigger DB hit. But I'll think about it.
I know how to do it, but as this is probably one of my most frequent forum activities, it'd be very cumbersome to have to edit many links I click.
Btw, the current "All xx" links (which is what I want) don't seem to work; they still give the paged beginning of each thread. I hope it's because metl is working on it ;) Yeah, ever since you've added this paging thing, the forums have become really fast for me...
Exactly the same here... Maybe you corrected a small bug indirectly... Anyway: it's cool how it works fine now !
tell me agian why using generic php-bb-nuke-thingy-code that every other web forum uses is a bad idea and coding Func from scratch makes the forum so much better? It's not that I actually believe a word of it, it's just that it's a rainy afternoon and I could do with a laugh.
Seems that now that the forum is faster, the spammers are having less trouble doing their thing... =D
could we just lock down posting to registered users for now anyway? this is getting out of hand :(
to have at least 50 posts per page. :) They are usually very short on this board.
Thanks metl for fixing func, it now works pretty well! okay, some thread paging changes:
* the URL behavior is now compatible with the old way. meaning, there's no automatic cap on the number of posts. start= and end= are required to limit the range of posts displayed. * the title of the thread on the forum page will now link to the "last 25" posts. * logged-in users now have an "all" link that really does give you all posts, just like the old days. * logged-out users just see the thread title (links to the last 25 posts) and a post count (not a link.) This might not be final. * if you post to a thread and you're not paged back, you will see the same post range plus your new post, like the old days. If you were paged back, you will just see your new post. * eliminated the "viewing all X posts." message. If there's no page navigation UI, that means you're viewing all posts. * added "first" and "last" links, and got rid of the numbers (it was too cluttered with them.)
* added "number of posts per page" as a user preference (check your account page!) You could let any people read the post, but let them unable to post if not logged. Many forum act like this (i.e planetquake, QuakeOne, etc...) so why not here ?
i do sort of agree with the original intention of the way things are set up atm, in that any one can drop in and leave a post without any hassle of signing up. it's just too bad that also makes the board a target for spam bots and such. :\
Add a captcha for guests posting...
I always say, if someone can't take the time to sign up, it's probably that what they want to say isn't so interesting. =D And for those who like posting from somewhere where they can't log in, a captcha shouldn't be too big of a hassle. Maybe i should have mentioned it in this thread instead of the spam thread, but:
I made a slight change to the javascript code to discourage spam bots -- the "post a reply" form now does not have a valid "action" (the action is the URL of the target page to submit data to) until the javascript sets it right before submitting. So, assuming spambots don't execute the javascript the way a real browser would, this might stop them. I read it, than instantenously forgot about it. =)
Been any spam since then? Don't think there's been any these last few days... Yay for metl! \o/ i had forgotten about that, but now you mention it, i haven't seen any spam so far, woot ^_^ (crosses fingers not to jinx it :P)
Seen a couple of these today :( I'd hoped the problem was fixed...
Hello:
I was attempting to download Derelect, Icepick and Concrete Dreams Quake 2 maps as seen on this page <http://www.celephais.net/cv/portfolio.htm> but ftp.celephais.net requires a login. How can I obtain these wonderful looking maps? TIA! For some reason the URL I referenced in the previous post got cut off. Here it is:
http://www.celephais.net/cv/portfolio.htm I guess I need to fix the links on that page, but in the meantime you can download from here: http://www.celephais.net/files/
Hi,
I'm Enemyterritory player not sure if this is the right place to ask for assistance . I have been using the GtkRadiant for map lvl making . I have a few questions if any body could help would be nice . #1 what is needed to make the maps #2 How does Bsp work if I don't have the full version of RTCW #3 How can I get the shaders to work This is the forum to ask questions about this website, report things that are broken, request features, etc.
So try the "mapping help" thread. However the site was changed to make it load fast, it's *real* nice now.
Thanks! Well, I didn't do anything to make it faster, so I guess from now on when I want it to go faster, I'll not do anything :)
I changed it on friday, becuase I never really liked the old one, and Sauerbraten now has an actual official logo, so I figured I could use that.
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=2&start=745&end=745
Careful with that preview button... all decision trees (buttons pushed, synapsis fired) contribute to the accumalative entropy of information in the universe that will eventually result in our annihilation.
In other news my neighbor made some realy delicious brownies for the fireworks festivities tonight. and don't press the button!
Uh oh, just realized, I must press a button just to warn people. errrr Here in about 10 minutes in my time zone it'll be 7/22, the 10th anniversary of Quake.
Meanwhile, I'm working on a semi-serious map and maybe I'll have it done before Quake Expo is over -- or maybe not -- but either way I've really enjoyed learning about mapping in the last year or so, and basically this is a quick thanks to metlslime for maintaining this site and everyone who has helped me answering all the questions I had in the past. There's now a "links" page in the menu. What sort of stuff should go on there? As I made this I realized there ought to be some big comprehensive "Slipgate Central" site, but that would be best as an independent entity. And since I don't want to do that, what level of partial comprehensiveness should I aim for?
I considered simply linking to the QuakeOne Navigator, but I'm not sure if that's best either. I'm trying to get a huge (the biggest existing) link database online for the new Quaddicted.com.
No idea when the site is done, but if it turns out how I want it, then it would be the solution for all Quake link needs ever. When I read unread posts, it would be quite handy to have links on the page that say "go to next undread messages in thread XYZ," instead of going back to the forum page... is that practical?
that might be a little weird, but if I do more with RSS on this site, one of the feed might show all unread posts for a user.
if you refresh that often, surely there is only ever one new post in one thread that you need to look at. :)
Would it be possible to use some dhtml/ajax voodoo to get the forum page to indicate when new posts are posted? I know there was a page that had that feature while it covered a recent and huge mac event... saved on bandwidth.
overkill.
I'm looking for an excuse to make something with ajax, but I want something that actually justifies it. well both retroquake and ten four are pretty lazy about updating, but they have both reviewed at least one map during 2006, and neither one has said that they are officially closed. So I'll wait a bit longer before proclaiming them dead.
is taking an absolute age to load recently, but individual threads are the same as always, thought you might want the headsup Metl..
These last few days the access became slower and slower... Do you have any idea of what's happening ? Did Anybody notice that, or am I alone to face this issue ?
But as usual, I don't know anything about it. The hosting seems to get faster and slower at random.
If sleepwalkr still says it's okay, I'm going to move to fov120 when my current hosting plan runs out. you could also try changing your password to something hard to remember.
He wants to change his nick to something cool like Thumphead, or Rearshot, and has to cancel his current account so the cookie doesn't override.
nice theory, but all you have to do to change your name is to just edit it on the Account page and hit submit.
someone leaving because of something someone said. There has to be some other reason.
I'm sure he decided to leave cause czg doesn't love quake anymore. I think we can pretty much just shut this message board down now, as well as #tf.
according to my bro who does contract IT work for the US Mint among other interesting things, factories of human bots are all the rage now. Our honey selling little buddy is most likely one of these. It is a phenonom tied to gold farmers and Zero Sum Wednesdays (Microsoft security updates are typically released on Tuesdays, a certain pernicious Nation has hundreds of hackers working to crack the updates within 24 hours).
I got this site from a friend of mine. Now perhaps it's my lack of intelligence, it probably is, but I find it difficult to navigate. I don't mean to step on anyone's toes, just trying to get a few pointers on how to make my stay here more pleasant. Here we go:
Is there a forum index page? Where the forum is divided into categories and each category has it's own forum? Is there anyway for me to get a email notification when a reply to my thread, or a thread in which I replied myself, is posted? For your first question, the "Forum" page (see link at the top of any page) lists 1. permanent or "sticky" threads, 2. latest discussion threads, and 3. latest news threads. The only threads not listed here are old and inactive, and they can be found in the archives. There is an archive for discussion threads, and another one for news threads. Both links can be found on that forum page.
As for email notification, there is nothing like that. However, as a logged-in user you can see how many new/unread posts are in any thread that you've already visited at least once. Obviously this doesn't work as well when you area new user who hasn't read most of the threads, but once you get settled in, it should be possible to tell what's new and what you've already looked at. Thanks for the info!
I take it you reply to ongoing threads instead of being able to create brand new ones in a permanent thread? Try to use threads that already exist if they are appropriate to your post. General Abuse is a good catch-all for random things that don't fit any topic.
You're allowed to create a new discussion thread, but you should only do it for a topic that you expect will have many responses, rather than for a question that only needs one answer. Inf questions probably relate well with
new viewers, post the last series of Q&A as a primer in the Faq. How about making the creation of new Discussion Threads work the same way as the News Threads?
So newbies would not create useless new threads. i just posted with the title "frame" "1" in worldspawn in the doom3 mapping help thread and it left the title blank.
did you preview it? It seems to work fine if you don't preview it. If you do, then yeah, it erases that part of the message.
http://img.waffleimages.com/0a6d513759567f7f234cfcc2666e0fe636172f1f/auto_spam.gif
^^ Do you think they're creating accounts automatically or are they going to the trouble of doing it by hand? Might be something to look into i was just looking at those dummy accounts recently. It seems like they're created automatically, but the bots suprisingly did a good job of putting the email, the URL, and the password in the right place. Maybe the bot reads the names of the form fields.
i added a new layer to spambot protection. It compares the IP address of a post with an IP address in the original form, which would match only if you actually got served the form at the same IP, which may not be true for spambots.
Been getting an "ERROR: Error message number 42" in nice flashy red when trying to post this morning, worked after 2 more tries though.
hmm, might be becuase you had a cached version of the page you were posting to? That error should only occur if you try to submit from a different IP than the IP that you requested the thread from... which should never happen unless you're a bot, or if you had the page cached from a previous session maybe....
anyway, let me know if the problem ever comes back. Dear god (metlslime), please ignore that request. Func is so great because it is reduced to pure functionality of a forumboard. Everyone is easily contactable via the profile (or with a post in GA).
privet messages would be funny though. :P Ah, right, well no actually, I dunno how it's done, but my IP seems to jump around every minute or so while I'm at work, guess I'm a bot. =)
Got it again 4 times when posting this, hehe. hmm, this is troubling. I may have to disable this feature if people's IP addresses change within a single web-browsing session.
Does anybody else have the problem Bal is having? If it's limiting spam, keep it, I only have the problem at work, and I'm sure it's cause our net connection is weird somehow (I also have problems on classic php forums, sets all messages to read every minute, hehe).
I only posted here in case it was abnormal, it doesn't really bother me. if your IP keeps changing, doesn't that break a lot of web services? Like, you click on a link to request a page, but then your IP changes, so the server sends the page to the old IP, and you never get it? Or IRC, how does that work if your IP keeps changing? How does the data even get to you?
Phait was refering to delicious cheese products Bal keeps on hand for guest, right Phait? MMM, Guda melted in an onion roux spread on some toast would be great 'bout now. Can be smelly, but damn good.
Well I get disconnected from irc quite often, not that I come on a whole lot while at work =), web works fine otherwise, dunno...
By the way, I don't like cheese, and I don't drink wine, so scientifically speaking, it's kinda hard to say I'm really french. =( so i made a big database change which basically split the threads and posts into seperate tables. There are about 50,000 posts on the board, and 800 threads. This means that all SQL queries used to have to read a 50000-row table just to get thread data. Now threads are in a seperate, 800-row table, which is much faster to query :)
Pages that should load faster: news page, forum, thread archives. Pages that should be about the same: view_thread, people, faq, etc. Anyway, please let me know if anything appears to have broken during this change. Things seem to work fine from what I've tested. (Moderators will notice that they cannot reject a news submission. I will revive this feature soon. Just leave them in the queue for now and we can reject them later.) so i made a big database change which basically split the threads and posts into seperate tables. There are about 50,000 posts on the board, and 800 threads. This means that all SQL queries used to have to read a 50000-row table just to get thread data. Now threads are in a seperate, 800-row table, which is much faster to query :)
Pages that should load faster: news page, forum, thread archives. Pages that should be about the same: view_thread, people, faq, etc. Anyway, please let me know if anything appears to have broken during this change. Things seem to work fine from what I've tested. (Moderators will notice that they cannot reject a news submission. I will revive this feature soon. Just leave them in the queue for now and we can reject them later.) so i made a big database change which basically split the threads and posts into seperate tables. There are about 50,000 posts on the board, and 800 threads. This means that all SQL queries used to have to read a 50000-row table just to get thread data. Now threads are in a seperate, 800-row table, which is much faster to query :)
Pages that should load faster: news page, forum, thread archives. Pages that should be about the same: view_thread, people, faq, etc. Anyway, please let me know if anything appears to have broken during this change. Things seem to work fine from what I've tested. (Moderators will notice that they cannot reject a news submission. I will revive this feature soon. Just leave them in the queue for now and we can reject them later.) so i made a big database change which basically split the threads and posts into seperate tables. There are about 50,000 posts on the board, and 800 threads. This means that all SQL queries used to have to read a 50000-row table just to get thread data. Now threads are in a seperate, 800-row table, which is much faster to query :)
Pages that should load faster: news page, forum, thread archives. Pages that should be about the same: view_thread, people, faq, etc. Anyway, please let me know if anything appears to have broken during this change. Things seem to work fine from what I've tested. (Moderators will notice that they cannot reject a news submission. I will revive this feature soon. Just leave them in the queue for now and we can reject them later.) so i made a big database change which basically split the threads and posts into seperate tables. There are about 50,000 posts on the board, and 800 threads. This means that all SQL queries used to have to read a 50000-row table just to get thread data. Now threads are in a seperate, 800-row table, which is much faster to query :)
Pages that should load faster: news page, forum, thread archives. Pages that should be about the same: view_thread, people, faq, etc. Anyway, please let me know if anything appears to have broken during this change. Things seem to work fine from what I've tested. (Moderators will notice that they cannot reject a news submission. I will revive this feature soon. Just leave them in the queue for now and we can reject them later.) so i made a big database change which basically split the threads and posts into seperate tables. There are about 50,000 posts on the board, and 800 threads. This means that all SQL queries used to have to read a 50000-row table just to get thread data. Now threads are in a seperate, 800-row table, which is much faster to query :)
Pages that should load faster: news page, forum, thread archives. Pages that should be about the same: view_thread, people, faq, etc. Anyway, please let me know if anything appears to have broken during this change. Things seem to work fine from what I've tested. (Moderators will notice that they cannot reject a news submission. I will revive this feature soon. Just leave them in the queue for now and we can reject them later.) so i made a big database change which basically split the threads and posts into seperate tables. There are about 50,000 posts on the board, and 800 threads. This means that all SQL queries used to have to read a 50000-row table just to get thread data. Now threads are in a seperate, 800-row table, which is much faster to query :)
Pages that should load faster: news page, forum, thread archives. Pages that should be about the same: view_thread, people, faq, etc. Anyway, please let me know if anything appears to have broken during this change. Things seem to work fine from what I've tested. (Moderators will notice that they cannot reject a news submission. I will revive this feature soon. Just leave them in the queue for now and we can reject them later.) and things seem to be mostly working, i'm going to bed. Let me know how it goes :)
"fait dodo cola mon p'tit frere"
"fait dod t'auras du lolo" French lullaby for metlslime ;) RECURSIVE ERROR:
Error 1: There was a SQL error. Error 2: There was a SQL error. The first error of Func_Msgboard is, there was a SQL error. The second error if Func_Msgboard is, there was a SQL error. I finally edited the "recursive error" message so that it would actually show BOTH errors. Too bad both errors are still completely vague. :P
(also, i almost typed your nickname as "RGB") Wished you hadn't told me. I've been calling in to the office for years telling them, 'I don't know where he is. You know those replicants, they can be tricky. Could you wire another ten grand, I'm running low on peanut butter.'
all SQL errors should now give an error code and a filename and a line number, which means that if you get an error and tell me about it, i might actually be able to do something about it.
RECURSIVE ERROR:
Error 1: SQL error 1045 on line 12 of view_thread.php. Please tell metlslime about this. Error 2: SQL error 1045 on line 24 of _display.php. Please tell metlslime about this. Request was: http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=35374 After adding the above post, I retrieved the whole sitehelp thread, but then that last post wasn't there. After another attempt, it showed up, though.
okay, it's as i suspected.
the "RECURSIVE" errors are the ones where a second error occurs while trying to display an error page -- since the error page still has a header and stuff, there are still SQL commands required to see if you're logged in or not, and these must also be causing an error. Since it's the same error number on both, and that error is "access denied for user" then I think there's nothing wrong with my SQL queries, and instead there's some intermittent problem with the server, like too many connections or something. Which means I can't fix it but at least I know WTF was going on all this time. as for the second error, if you see that more often then let me know. Otherwise it might just be a one-time hiccup.
the 2nd post, the entire thread could be retrieved correctly, so maybe it was just a fluke.
by the way, news submission page works now, as does "creating a new discussion thread" page.
news rejection feature for moderators is still broken, though Pretty clever how that replaces the crate. So long as the goodies in it are as good as the crate full of firearms and health packs.
yea, that's how I ended up doing it.. if the site operator isn't going to have a search feature, he/she could at least include a shortcut to that (a little Google entry box to search the forum).. good for keeping people from asking the same questions over and over - given the assumption that they'd actually try to search the forum first for previously-answered questions.
just a thought. :) metlslime you should also add "happy new year/christmas/any other holiday" newsletter for each registered user
=) I just thought, why not have a QC forum? Yeah there's Mapping Help but that's rather different. I don't think it's a bad idea to keep them seperate and easier to reference particular posts.
we have a couple of those i think. Maybe there isn't a catch-all qc thread, though. I guess someone could start one.
could maybe modify that thread to be more general, but i've grown attached to "mapping help" over the years... :P
Look at the other "big" game-related threads that are not stickied: Other Games, Speedmapping.
Both would be interesting to be sticky but it works fine as it is. QC really is a minor issue hereand could either b discussed in Mapping Help (as now) or anyone could create a new thread for it (with a nice and proper header description) that would be amongst the other threads. This primarily is a mapping/gameart board, the QC home is inside3d. I just got that clicking on FAQ link
ERROR: SQL error 1054 on line 31 of faq.php. Don't know if it has been already mentioned. good catch. I made a database change and must have forgotten to update all the pages to match. Probably fix it tonight when I get home.
rejecting a news submission now works again.
Also, there is a new feature called "reject as spam" which, instead of posting the submission in the general abuse thread, will reject it and hide it completely so that no user will see it. This is good for anything that is true spam from a bot or abusive visitor, and also for duplicate posts -- you can approve one of the submissions, and reject the duplicate as spam so nobody sees it. Because moderators make mistakes?
Because it's interesting to look back at historical trends of amount of spam? Because I don't delete users, posts, threads, etc. etc. but metlslime, it's SPAM! and everyone has exactly the same definition of spam, so it's ok to delete.
and besides, it's not like if you relented slightly in your policy of 'no deletion' that it would become a slippery slope. would it be possible to get something to fix up the time for different time zones? the timestamps are kind of useless for me atm. :P
i have thought of that. FYI, the timestamps were EST for the first two years, then PST for the last two years. And now on the new server they're somewhere in germany, so i guess that's called CET.
Anyway, my plan is to have users choose a time zone in their preferences, and then to translate timestamps into their local time. Ability to tag favorite posts. Say you're digging back a few years for some mapping help or a particular topic, you can flag it as a favorite, add a keyword or 3, easily accessible in your Account page.
I've always been bothered by the fact that you could never link to the 'last 25' posts of a thread externally. Such as, if I wanted to link to the Speedmapping thread in general, but wanted to ensure that the link only went to the last 'page' of posts.
Why wouldn't they - surely you would link it somehwere for all to see... or are you saying RSS is so underused it's not worth it?
That brings me to news_rss.php which Firefox just wants to bookmark - but where is the actual
You failed to understand. The news_rss.php which Firefox just wants to bookmark actually works fine as it is a proper rssfeed.
There seem to be a lot of complaints from some people about not being able to load certain pages, such as the entire general thread, or the archive threads.
I wonder if some proxys/ISPs/something else have some sort of max page size? The news archive is 313K, maybe that's too big. Can you view the discussion archive, or "all posts" from any large threads? from beginning seems to at least start loading properly (I didn't wait for all to load).
i've been assuming it had to do something with the total page size. perhaps the the cause is something on the pages themselves, such as a special character that breaks the page. Could this be related to the default character encoding that browsers use, maybe?
Maybe it also have something with the navigator configuration: I have firefox at office and at home, but as example, at office I can't view all the News archives when at home it is possible... and my personnal PC is not a 'running' machine....
what happens if you try this link?
http://www.quaddicted.com/webarchive/www.celephais.net/board/view_all_news.php Or try downloading the page with something else than your browser and open it then. It works fine... but from the Func_ link it crashes claiming:
ERROR The requested URL could not be retrieved While trying to retrieve the URL: http://www.celephais.net/board/view_all_threads.php The following error was encountered: * The request or reply is too large. If you are making a POST or PUT request, then your request body (the thing you are trying to upload) is too large. If you are making a GET request, then the reply body (what you are trying to download) is too large. These limits have been established by the Internet Service Provider who operates this cache. Please contact them directly if you feel this is an error. wtf ? links still don't work. It looks like they begin to d/l, then after a short while they get interrupted and I get an error message.
the first error message is now that there's an ActiveX control on the page that cannot be executed due to my security settings (I've that disabled).
Is this some sort of hijack thing? It took so damn long to load I may as well have just gone to the site, which I was going to do anyway to check the message boards, and since we only get one item of news around here a month it was probably the most pointless exercise in which I've ever partaken.
what could be causing the inability to load the News Archive or View All Threads? It still doesn't work for me and I've tried disabling any filter I normally use.
It's not a big issue, but it'd be nice to know what's causing it. No progress, since I can't reproduce it, and the error messages one gets from browsers are usually completely worthless.
Is there anyone out there who gets this problem on ONE computer or browser, but not on another? (such as work vs. home, mac vs. pc, opera vs. firefox?) And for anyone else, if you're getting the bug, can you report in this thread which browser, version, and OS you're using? on top of IE 5.5 running Win95 OSR2. This used to work before, but I didn't notice when it stopped working. I recall Mike W reporting issues when my worked at the time.
noted that I can d/l those pages (with GetRight) and view them locally without any problem.
something with RSS? I see that e.g. the main page and this page don't have that, but at least the view_all_news page has it. And I believe RSS was a recent change at Func_.
Using firefox 2.0.0.3, can load both pages while at home, but cannot load them while at uni(using the same laptop and browser). I remember getting a university service error page complaining about some message being too long. Unfortunately I'm at home at the moment so I can't reproduce the error message or remember the exact phrasing.
the news archive and discussion archive don't have RSS feed links on them. So I don't think that's the cause.
since your message seems to be about page size, could you try loading the entire GA thread or similar large thread? Just to see if they fail also?
I like this article because it was written by a smartass:
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/web3point0 I have just opened the news archive on my mobile phone. Using opera and umts access :P
I have also tried at home and at work on laptop and pc and on 3 different browsers. Everything works for me. ... it comes from network administrator access restriction rules: if the loading page is to large according to administrator rules, then you are not allowed to view it... At home I don't have this issue cause there are no restriction...
In anyway I will ask my network administrator to confirm... ERROR: Error message number 42
wtf? I get this error when I try to post in MadFox's new map thread is it possible your IP address changed between viewing the loading the thread, and submitting your post?
Becuase that's what that error means (i made it sound cryptic to give spambot writers less information.) is it possible your IP address changed between viewing the loading the thread, and submitting your post?
I meant to say: is it possible your IP address changed between loading the thread, and submitting your post? I assumed that it wasn't possible unless you were a spambot.
But, maybe somehow your dynamic IP changed and your browser cached the page so when you posted a comment, it was submitting an outdated form (with the wrong IP hash in it.) That shouldn't be possible becuase the pages on this site should never be cached (they are set to expire immediately.) Does any of this sound possible? Or maybe a web proxy that cached a page when it shouldn't have? Or something? If this happens much, I guess I'd need to remove the IP address requirement. Hasn't worked for me since the change to a new host.
Works in Firefox, but not in IE. The only webpage I attempt to visit that doesn't work... Errr... Now I'm back in uni, here's the error message I get from clicking on view all threads:
" * The request or reply is too large. If you are making a POST or PUT request, then your request body (the thing you are trying to upload) is too large. If you are making a GET request, then the reply body (what you are trying to download) is too large. These limits have been established by the Internet Service Provider who operates this cache. Please contact them directly if you feel this is an error. " So i finally was able to reproduce it. For me, Firefox works just fine. I thought I'd try IE to see what happened.
Logged out: page loads Logged in: "Can not find server or DNS error" (error message is fucking useless of course) Also, it seems that all complaints from other people have either said it was an IE problem, or didn't mention the browser. Is it correct to say that everyone who has this problem is using IE? I just got these messages on top of each page
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_display.php:56) in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_user.php on line 106 Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_display.php:56) in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_user.php on line 107 What's happening ? JPL: It was caused by my clumsy tinkering :)
Good news: I fixed it so that, at least on my computer, I can now View All Threads using IE even when logged in, where before I could not. The problem appears to be that the page was taking too long to process, causing IE to think it had timed out. By slightly optimizing some redundant code, I made it respond faster. I played a bit this morning and realised that one could small down the page size of func about 1/2 by reworking it in css. Getting rid of all the tables and using div, p and span instead.
If there's interest in doing this I would volunteer doing the hard work for metl (as in providing the visible layout). It might look slightly different but only slightly. it's true, and I do plan to switch to CSS eventually. Just haven't gotten to it yet.
Thanks for the offer, but I am also capable of doing this. You should work on quaddicted :) I have trouble at home loading the forum page, but my provider is crappy, but also the only one that reaches my area.
At home I use Firefox and at work IE. Can't go back to IE at home just yet since I managed to corrupt it and don't want to start monkeying around until next week. CSS - I remember a lecture from a while ago - this works on cascades and saves space because it doesn't hit repeats of the same info? It's strange that func_ has trouble loading when its mostly text, apart from a few non-windows graphics. Mind you, I know next to nothing of web maintenance. it's longer this time:
Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 3 Warning: mysql_select_db(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 4 Warning: mysql_select_db(): A link to the server could not be established in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 4 Warning: mysql_query(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 8 Warning: mysql_query(): A link to the server could not be established in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 8 Warning: mysql_query(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 8 Warning: mysql_query(): A link to the server could not be established in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 8 RECURSIVE ERROR: Error 1: SQL error 2002 on line 12 of view_thread.php. Error 2: SQL error 2002 on line 30 of _display.php. This problem usually goes away if you refresh the page (but feel free to tell metlslime about the specific error you just got, since I'm curious about why this happens. wtf when accessing http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=870&start=840 i got this error
it always goes away if i specify "celephais.net/forum" as the address Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Too many connections in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 3 Warning: mysql_select_db() [function.mysql-select-db]: Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: NO) in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 4 Warning: mysql_select_db() [function.mysql-select-db]: A link to the server could not be established in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 4 Warning: mysql_query() [function.mysql-query]: Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: NO) in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 8 Warning: mysql_query() [function.mysql-query]: A link to the server could not be established in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 8 Warning: mysql_query() [function.mysql-query]: Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: NO) in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 8 Warning: mysql_query() [function.mysql-query]: A link to the server could not be established in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 8 RECURSIVE ERROR: Error 1: SQL error 1045 on line 12 of view_thread.php. Error 2: SQL error 1045 on line 30 of _display.php. This problem usually goes away if you refresh the page (but feel free to tell metlslime about the specific error you just got, since I'm curious about why this happens. seems like every once in a while the database is inacessible for a couple seconds. I probably need to detect that and put up a simpler message.
Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Too many connections in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 3
Warning: mysql_select_db() [function.mysql-select-db]: Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: NO) in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 4 Warning: mysql_select_db() [function.mysql-select-db]: A link to the server could not be established in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 4 RECURSIVE ERROR: Error 1: SQL error 1045 on line 98 of _user.php. Error 2: SQL error 1045 on line 30 of _display.php. This problem usually goes away if you refresh the page (but feel free to tell metlslime about the specific error you just got, since I'm curious about why this happens. the FOV120 database went down for a minute... I had the same problem on cubeengine.com at the same time.
forgot to add:
totally out of the blue, firefox 2 something, happened for a few times, now it's gone. How long are we suppose to wait before seeing something on the provided link ?
5 mn after typing "enter", it's still waiting for the website.... wtf ? seems to be another case of the database going down or getting hit too hard by requests. Maybe i need to ask sleepwalkr about it.
I fixed the quotes-in-title-preview bug. (It used to eat your title if you had quotes in it and used the preview feature.)
This doesn't help with the database going down, but hopefully you'll get one error instead of a screen full of errors.
Fatal error: Call to undefined function: d_error() in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 11
good catch. PHP doesn't require that you declare a function before calling it, unless the function is in an include. Should be fixed now (have to wait until the next DB downtime to see)
1. there is now some additional text on the "submit news" and "create a new discussion thread" pages. This should hopefully explain to newcomers what the standards are for creating a new thread vs. posting in an existing thread.
2. you can now create a URL that always points to the last page of a thread, using &page=last in the URL. This page will display the last 25 posts for an anonymous user, but if you are logged in, it will display 25, 50, or 100 posts depending on your preferences. But you get the error message at 69?
of characters that gets cut off with an ellipsis
:P
i can't even type in more than 70. Does Opera not use the "maxlength='70'"? Or are you using something evil. Yeah I guess it's the apostrophe's fault. Probably "quotes" too? 1 2 3 <-- 70 chars, does not validate.
Yeah I guess it_s the apostrophe_s fault. Probably "quotes" too? 1 2 3 <-- 70 chars, does not validate. Yeah I guess it_s the apostrophe_s fault. Probably _quotes_ too? 1 2 3 <-- 70 chars, ok. yeah, i know about the database problem from the last 6+ hours. Not sure what caused it, but it was server-wide (it also brought down the cube forums.) I'll ask sleepy if he knows what was up.
But it did reveal that my attempt to have a single, clean error message for when the DB is down failed. the NEXT time the database takes a shit, there will hopefully be a nice clean error message.
there's already a beer icon. The coke was smuggled into the country inside the crate icon. And if you want hookers, you need to find a pimp, who already has an icon.
There was a bug where if you login on login.php and choose "remember password" in firefox, and then visit account.php it will have one filled-in password field, which means they won't match and you can't submit the form without blanking them out (or filling in the "confirm" field to match.)
This should be fixed now, and firefox's "remember passwords" feature should no longer attempt to autocomplete that field. I lifted the requirement where you had to enable "referer logging" in opera, and similar settings in firewall software, in order to log in successfully. Please test it out and see if you can log in with referer logging disabled. If you can, great! Then we won't have that issue anymore.
It was originally implemented as general hack protection, but i don't think there's much evil that can be done without it, and it seemed to confuse a lot of people, so it's gone. Has the "Your news submission has been submitted. It has to be approved by a moderator." message (or something) been removed? It's a little confusing now - risk of double news submissions and all.
Um, I'm not sure there ever was such a message, but I agree that there should be if there isn't.
wtf a heart has to do in the crate ? I'd rather see a quake logo.. metlslime, go change this fucking shit ;)
Yes, but there's also a needle that shows the addiction and that explains why Spirit has so bad taste in color choice ;)
I hope metlslime will not turn this forum into a "pinky shit" :P cut-off of long words behaves badly when there is a html-"encoded" character involved. The length calculation looks at the length of the whole string instead of what is visible to the eye and breaks the symbol-code.
"1234567890123456789012345678" "123456789012345678901234567" "12345678901234567890123456" "1234567890123456789012345" "123456789012345678901234" "12345678901234567890123" "1234567890123456789012" I really think that the previous crate should be restored, just remove this fucking pink heart logo, and replace it by a bloody Quake logo more in-line with quake spirit (not Spirit... bleh :P)...
But there'd be no point if it didn't have the heart, because that's what the weighted companion cube has painted on it. Otherwise it's not your faithful friend, it's just one of the thousand other crates in the place.
the crate was just there as a fun, temporary Portal reference, since that crate was from Portal. It was never considered as a permanent logo.
maybe have a random title graphic or let users choose in their profile what pic they want?
Just a thought That's why we need the COMPANION Cube, a loyal box that would never lend itself to other sites. Func_crate is an internet whore.
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ERROR: Can't connect to database. But just reloaded about ten minutes later and it was fine. Just high traffic I take it?
I was trying to fix a problem in the table that keeps track of unread posts for each user, and accidentally fucked it up. The result is right now all posts are now marked as read in any thread that you've ever looked at, so you might miss some recent posts if you don't go back and look at the previous 25 of each active thread. Sorry about that.
But, I did fix a bug also. to explain further: everything will work from now on, it's just that you lose the "new" posts that already existed at the time of my fuck-up.
TBH I often get ? marks to the point where I dont even really notice it anymore. For me also, in FitzQuake, if I want to type " then it gives me @
and vice-versa. Fixed in Darkplaces though! It randomly works sometimes. This might be related to some other bug I encounter sometimes: The font sizes get smaller, most often after I posted something.
But all my posts made from the sbz office have 127.255.255.255 as IP. It happens to other people as well I see. (Starbuck's last post in the film thread)
I can't imagine how any network settings would be able to spoof an IP like that, so I'm guessing something mysterious is afoot. Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Too many connections in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 9
Im guessing the site was just busy? hmm, yeah i guess so. I'm not sure if the connection limit is per-database or for the entire domain, so we might be competing with the cube forums or something.
Post #18 on the Slave thread, I was using my friends laptop through a USB wire-less modem.
Gave one of those weird IPs people were talking about; 127.255.255.255 How exciting! thanks for the extra info. I wonder if it's a PHP bug or maybe this is a "feature" of some routers.
I mean, if you think the other end of the socket is connected to the IP address 127.255.255.255, you'll have a hard time sending a web page to them...
Posting from Windows XP now. Firefox 3.0b4.
And got the 127.255.255.255. No proxy for sure. But a router (like always). http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=60183&start=97 I changed the IP fields from ints to unsigned ints... which is weird because i'm fairly certain they WERE unsigned, but all the server migrations and upgrades in the past few years might have done something to it.
Anyway, someone who was able to generate the 127.255.255.255 address before, please try again and see if it still happens. i just noticed, some people in the thread above are now 0.0.0.0
but at least CZG is legit now. so that wasn't the right fix, ip2long and long2ip are supposed to use signed ints. I have reverted the changes, fixing the 0.0.0.0 problem.
I still can't tell what's wrong, but at least old data from the database is coming out and displaying correctly, but new data going in is getting IPs >= 128.0.0.0 turned into 127.255.255.255. The change coincides with the latest server move. So maybe it's a PHP or mySQL version issue. perhaps it's a 64-bit issue, though i can barely believe they would do something so dumb:
http://blog.milkfarmsoft.com/?p=73 But apparently it's "not a bug": http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=18816 implemented a new fix assuming that the problem is 64 bit ints. Hope it works. This can't help all the 127.255.255.255 addresses from the past two months, though.
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Because for some reason I'm posting without leaving the page here...
I guess it's some Opera 9.5 feature. but is there a delay on adding a new news item and that news item appearing on the rss feed?
Can take a few hours or more, but someone will take a look at it eventually!
what he said. Once it's approved, it should immedately be in the RSS too, but there might be some caching issues in your reader or something???
Im using the google reader and tbh I have no idea how it all works :)
But thanks for the info. http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=33116
renders like this in opera: http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1890/wagagawgahanh4.jpg http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=33116&start=18&end=18
Which for some reason contains a shitload of <wbr/> tags, though I don't see why that should mess things up. I've been getting this http://pastebin.com/f2e9c8abd the second time now when i tried to post. Hacked?
and about that FF3 blurry crap? Are they using some stupid "smooth" filtering for all upscaled images maybe? The GLQuake of webbrowsers?
Can http://www.celephais.net/board/view_all_threads.php be sorted by latest post (like the short version on http://www.celephais.net/board/forum.php ?
That would make finding stuff much easier. Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Too many connections in /home/johnfitz/sites/ www.celephais.net/ board/_database.php on line 9
(added a couple of spaces to the url to avoid thanks, not much i can do about that, but it seems like a rare but consistent problem that i've been seeing for several years. I guess during times of peak activity the server gets overtaxed or something.
In FF3 there's a gap between the red X smiley and the skull smiley, and in FF2 there isn't.
this is terrible Aren't the gaps to seperate the game icons from the smilies, and the random custom icons from the regular topic ones?
if the cursor is not inside a text box (i.e. a typing box) then I get "error message no 42".
Or atleast if the last place I click before "submit" is in one of the smiley flag boxes. in ie6 I think metl gave some of the site errors bullshit names and numbers (not unlike mac OSanything) to confuse spammers.
message 42 means your IP address changed between loading/caching the original page, and when you actually submitted the form. Not sure how that actually happens, unless you use some weird proxy or your ISP changes your address under you.
I was using a South African connection with "bit defender" on it.
It has three settings of security. The top setting disables things like: logging in to email posting on func So I had to turn it down a notch to the middle setting which was much better. A lot of people are ignorant. One example of the type of ignorannce of which I speak is: Going into multiple TV shops where XBox 360's and PS3's are on display for public to try, and finding the consoles are set to 480p on 720p and 1080p monitors. What a waste! You didn't reply when I posted this in tf so here it is again:
How about masking at least one part of the IP addresses? 123.xxx.123.123 or even 123.xxx.xxx.123 would still fully serve the purpose of identifying people (well, if it is possible at all, with dynamic IPs etc). But it would give a bit of privacy towards search engine data mining collecting investigating following crazy tinfoil-hat stuff. not sure what the threat is for IP address mining... i mean, i guess people can figure out what country you live in, but that's about it...
and there is a small benefit that people think they can't be totally anonymous when posting bullshit. When trying to submit a reply in mapping help, I got the following error:
ERROR: Error message number 55 at http://www.celephais.net/board/error_nojavascript.php I'm currently using google chrome as my browser, which might be the cause, but this is the first of quite a few posts which has given such an error. Going back one page and then re-submitting the post worked without a problem. preach: that should only happen if you have javascript enabled, yet, that should also prevent the form from being submitted in the first place. So, not sure how it happened but i'll check out chrome.
To be honest it's probably just the browser doing something idiotic, it's beta-quality at best. So I wouldn't worry too much about it.
When replying to a fully loaded thread, just load the last 50 after submitting. Sounds like a quick fix and everybody wins (faster load for the user and less load for the server).
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w00t Or leave it for a bit and then reload the page. Spam reloading it will generate more connections and therefore probably cause the problem to occur longer (I was getting it as well, hence the GA post being the half post I wrote before copying to a text file and making dinner).
you think that's dangerous...
<a href="javascript:alert('doh')">alert</a> Maybe i should examine the security implications of this... tbh, i prefered it without the a href linking.
i didn't have to hover over links here to see if they are good to click or not. <a href="javascript:var%20v=document.forms[0];v.title.value='I%20AM%20A%20FAGGOT!';v.body.value='HUMP%20MY%20RUMP!';submitpost(v);">Click for a good time!</a>
I think all issues can be addressed.
First, the misleading URL demonstrated by spirit can be mitigated by making raw URLs look different that anchor tags, using color or other formatting. Second, the http-based XSS attack spirit showed can be fixed by making the logout button require POST instead of GET. Third, the javascript-based XSS attacks as demonstrated by czg can be prevented by being stricter about the URL (i.e. requiring http:/ftp: at the beginning) i might consider allowing anchor tags only in discussion/news threads, and not in posts. This means our news can look nicer, and anything malicious is easily moderated (since threads are few compared to posts.)
Damn, what is this shit !!?? czg: you are the most stupid of us, you damn bastard ! I hate you !
but it is now fixed. Anchor tag URLs must start with the ftp, http, or https scheme in order to be converted to clickable links.
as a trial, i made it so user-created anchor tags are embedded in square brackets, so that they can be distinguished from raw URLs. We'll see how it feels. Example:
http://www.google.com/ -- raw URL http://www.goatse.cx/ -- anchor tag While the Google trick is well-known to all of us, new members or guests seem to get confused by the apparent lack of an integrated search function here (which often results in misplaced posts/threads). Now, what about simply adding another link up there leading to a simple search form that forwards the request to Google with the site:celephais.net/board argument added?
Scroogle is Google without the data mining or ads, it even is SSL encrypted and from my experience after more than a year very reliable:
https://ssl.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbw.cgi?Gw=site:celephais.net/board Without SSL: http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbw.cgi?Gw=site:celephais.net/board What if divide news archive section into pages? I.e. to make 'all news' button and 'last 50(100) news' one. Since there's too much news today.
There are many people here who can host the func_ site and/or database. Do you want to switch hosts?
I'm finding the site inaccessible in my afternoons, which is probably o'dark thirty wherever the server is. Any particular problem?
That is fixed now. It was a problem with long running SQL queries in the cube forum, which runs on the same machine. My bad.
the cause was sheer and utter stupidity and the solution involved duct tape and spit, but it seems to be holding together.
When submitting news, aren't you supposed to get a message saying something among the lines of "Thanks for your submission" etc?
I just tried submitting some news, and in both IE8 and Firefox 3.5, it would just throw me to the main Forum menu after clicking the Submit button. i'm actually not sure what's supposed to happen, i forgot how i coded it. A confirmation message is probably a good idea though.
I ended up with 4 submissions from you :) have you changed something recently? the address bar used to have the post # of the first post visible in the bar, so you could change it to jump to whatever post # you wanted to. now, all it does is show:
http://www.celephais.net board/forum.php (replace space with /) no matter what you're looking at. Are you using Opera? If you have focus on the address bar (eg cursor in it), it will not change even if you click on links.
I haven't changed anything...
maybe its a misguided attempt to show you only the webpage's filename and not the querystring which they consider confusing and complicated? FF 3.5.2 here and I see the entire full URL, in the case of right now: http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=2&start=1336
But a bug I just noticed: If I take a full URL, like the one above and put it inside the quote tags, this is what happens: http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=2&start=1336 Nor link doesn't work neither does it get fully displayed as a quoted text. well, it's not doing it anymore. i'm not sure why it was before, but it must just be been a momentary glitch on my side.
I just noticed that most people's nicks are white, when I know they should have a color. I don't recall this happening in the earlier betas of Opera 10, just the release candidate and final. On a mac by the way... but Firefox and Safari have no problem.
The following nicks, just from the last 50 posts are white: mine, metlslime, rickyt23, spirit, JPL, inertia, Jago, Pulsar, onetruepurple. I would guess that Opera doesn't like certain weird RGB combinations? Are there perhaps style options I should change to get around this? Maybe it is an Apple feature because white is trendy? ;)
Check if the visited links are set to white in Preferences -> Web Pages. And make sure you did not enable some style/mode/layout. i think if you switch on fit to width, it enables some mode that takes care of bad colour contrasts , too
meaning it is disabling colored text when the color doesn't contrast against the background sufficiently?
... and don't read func (because, say, I'm on honeymoon) it's hard to catch up because (particularly) the permanent threads have like 300 posts and there's no way to only read some of them. If I click the "new 300" link, they all get marked as read.
I guess I should just get over this and not read 300 posts of mostly pointless bickering, but have you thought about making this easier, maybe paging through new posts 25 at a time or something? i haven't really thought of that, but it might be doable. Currently the "unread" status is per-thread, not per post -- each thread stores the highest-numbered post you've seen, and so if the post count is higher than that, it means you have unread posts.
Since viewing only the first page of "new" posts would only bump up that "highest read post" up by 25 (if you have 25 to a page) then it would correctly remember that you haven't read them all yet, if you get interrupted and don't actually get a change to read all the pages of new posts. Please fix the special character -> html entity code so they are not html encoded again when you pull them from the db (guessing).
It should display the character not the HTML code. You HTML-卍! The links to the PQ review sites are dead. You should probably change them to Spirit's mirrors.
I used the mirrors at quaddicted.com for the three sites that seemed to be mirroed (SPQ level heaven, teamshambler, and quake map hotel) and then used quakewiki.net links for the remainder.
Tenfour, which is hosted at telefragged still, seems to have recently broken (script error.) Hope that gets fixed. Talon's strike is at archive.org still, might be good to grab that and put it in a zip file on a website that one of us actually controls. And crash is still at quake2.com, can't believe that's still running. and just wanted to give some additional recognition to Spirit and the other people at i3d who did all the archiving work a few months ago. A big effort, and you guys managed to save a lot of un-replacable stuff. Thanks again.
Oh, you found some old directory. I did not even remember it was still there, heh.
The "new" mirror files are not uploaded yet. I will properly announced that. Finished some sites already. They screwed up their hosting by not interpreting ASP (or something like that) but instead listing whole directories on some accounts. That means private and personal data was exposed. So apart from removing ads and fixing links I also have to check everything for accidentaly included stuff. What really pisses me off about it is that I mailed PQ when I noticed and the answer was "nah, we never had ASP support"... underworldfan will officially be at Quaddicted. We had some conversation a while back, I should resurrect that. Those are good mirrors!
I am so damn unorganised... Found 3 different mirror directories on my harddisks. http://www.quakeone.com/navigator/
And heavily revised to increase the ease of finding resources and far more complete than before. /places info here rather than starting new thread. I would have thought GA rather than here (or mebe a news post, less worthy stuff gets news'd tbh).
One thing tho, some of those links are hinting the IGN/GS bullshit "this page is down for maintenance" error page they use for content they stopped hosting... It's not news worthy, just updating a resource that helps people find things.
I don't believe the new version has any PlanetQuake links in it so that message shouldn't be possible but then again maybe I need to double check some of the links. Heh, just blind luck then. Only one I clicked was the console commands (iirc) and got the dead page page.
are they something like "too many connections?" If so, that seems to be a random occurrence based on server load.
Were due to the mail server hoarding connections like crazy. It should not happen again, if it does, please let me know.
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Maybe func has to make less/better queries? That's really odd, right now there are ~30 open connections, mostly pooled connections that apache reuses and a few ones from the mail server. The upper connection limit is 150, so I'd say there's plenty of headroom...
Apparently this forum software doesn't do cyrillic. If you go to www.translit.ru, write some text and then copy/paste it into func's post form, it will look right in the form, but previewing or posting it will result in junk.
i think there's some encoding thing i need to add to the HTML header, which i never really figured out. (some people see gibberish instead of certain symbols like the em dash, and some accented latin characters.)
Try <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />. Might not work as func converts some stuff to HTML entities (understandably as PHP sucks for Unicode afaik).
PS: Great "..." placement here, remove those if you copy'n'paste. ;) Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Too many connections in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 9
http://www.phpwact.org/php/i18n/utf-8
But of course you also need to take care of the db, the db connection, etc. Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Too many connections in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 9
I'd like to have a "Show last previous n posts, too" button that just lowers the start post id by n. I find myself going back and forth between previous page and new posts a lot for reference (or rather, I mostly just go back one page and cut off the end param). The new button would allow for exactly that, having the referenced post on the same page as the answers.
yeah, that makes sense. I sometimes find myself doing the same thing (actually what i do is hit "previous" and then "last", but my goal is the same.)
that'd be pretty cool. usually i manage by manually changing the number where it says "start=####" in the address bar, but a button would make things quicker.
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that's an intentionally cryptic message i put in to try to keep spambots out; it means the IP address you submitted from is different than the one you loaded the page from. I had hoped it would never affect users, but I guess certain proxies or firewalls can cause it to get tripped. I actually get that sometimes at work, and my workaround is to "preview" and then submit.
Perhaps i need to relax or remove that restriction if it's causing people trouble. moderators need to be able to choose which thread to re-post rejected news submissions to.
or a spam-human (like a spambot but composed of flesh.)
I'll flag them in the database when i get home (still need to add spam flagging to the moderator UI) Spam flagged.
However looking at the timestamps, some are only about 10 seconds apart, so it probably is a bot and not a human. So I guess I need to beef up my spambot defenses again, if this bot figured out how to get through. You want to reward someone for spamming a forum?
Not being obtuse, just don't know what you mean. hmm, indeed it is. Though his site is at least gaming-related, but yeah, the google matches, plus the profile link, plus the fact that the content of the post is full of keywords he wants to link to his site make it clear.
one thing i haven't really figured out how to deal with is spammers using user profiles to post URLs. The posts themselves are easily flagged, but i guess i need to add some way to flag a user account as "spam account".
Believe it or not... but that's pretty convincing spam.
It was suspiciously well worded for the content though. i just went to that forum and it's like 99% posts by that guy in otherwise empty threads. I guess he's just launching it or something, heh.
if you enter a HTML entity and preview the post, the textfield will contain the entity as actual HTML while the rendered preview above shows the characters (as does the board if you submit)
totally irrelevant but hey I abuse that all the time, if you preview a second time then it turns into the character you need in both places. It's very handy to create non-breaking spaces for putting indentation into code snippets or adding bulletpoints...
I agree that the ability to officially use entities would be great. Your trick seems not to work for them all. ♥
I was seeing "server not found" for about 15 minutes when trying to access anything on celephais.net, stopped being broken just a few minutes ago.
this is mainly for the news archives, but would be nice for thread archive too:
could we get a toggleable button on the archive pages that switches between sorting threads by most recent post and original post date? sock has been bumping a bunch of old release threads (and this isn't a complaint against that, by all means, keep commenting on the maps, you are playing as it's very informative and interesting). now i've lost track of the newest releases and i'm not sure but i think i had queued a couple of the newest ones to play but hadn't downloaded them yet. would this be a hard feature to implement? http://www.celephais.net/board/view_all_news.php is sorted by creation date.
metl:
either im tripping crazy balls here, or I have some crazy spyware or you have placed a small add occasionally into your pages? well, sometimes, this happens:
http://www.mediafire.com/?2oakqmd2zzy I think I might be infected with something. there are no ads on func, must be you have some spyware or ISP proxy or something like that which inserts ads.
I can't seem to be able to login to func_ and change my profile. Got a new blog up at http://debrisland.wordpress.com/ and want to add it.
I don't have that e-mail anymore. If you could hook me up at biffdebris@charter.net it would be righteous.
Seriously, the IP display is scary. Couldn't you replace it with some simple hashes? That way one could still notice when someone fakes or comes back but it would not be such a privacy issue.
Well... I guess it's there as a deterrent. Since anonymous abusers are not moderators, they won't see the display if it's moderator-only, which means there is no deterrent. If it's a hash they may not understand what it is -- therefore it's not a deterrent.
However, we could perhaps hide the IP on posts from logged-in users. That would solve the issue for regular users. What are you afraid of, though? Being targetted for a DoS attack or something? I am not sure, I just feel uneasy. The IP makes it impossible to be truly pseudonymous in theory. In Germany you must not store IP addresses for privacy reasons.
One new feature i'd like is a verbatim markup, but otherwise
though the legal specifcs appear to be unsettled, i think it might be safer just to disable IPs for now and wait a while and see if any court decisions clarify what is and isn't allowed. While IP addresses theoretically deter abuse, we don't see a huge amount of that type of abuse (anonymous posters pretending to be multiple people.)
in the monsters section for the rottfish; it says its attack is to "nipples" on your fat.
This Chrome addon has no effect on func.
this is kind of goofy, but it's been bugging me for a long long time...
one of the things i really missed from qmap was those randomly chosen post titles if you didn't type anything yourself. 'necros is still thinking of a title...' and such. i just thought they were kind of funny. :) Necros's title got pwned by a feind.
Necros's title got transmitted to #terrafusion by mistake and never came back Necros sold the title of this post for crack. And occasionally: Necros is a failure Necros just had sex with Meg Fox. etc. I just updated the way icons are rendered to reduce load times by having fewer http requests. (I'm now using a single image to store all icons.)
Let me know if you see any visual glitches from this change. There were some earlier tonight when I first uploaded, but they should be fixed now. I like how the stretched icons in the thread title are pixelated as before, and no longer blurred by Chrome.
The icon seems to be stuck at default in post preview, though. The icon seems to be stuck at default in post preview, though.
Ah, I guess i missed that one. Thanks. I like how the stretched icons in the thread title are pixelated as before, and no longer blurred by Chrome.
Oh yeah, that was a side effect of this change, i'm happy about it too. I've had a few instances of the site running really slow over the last few days, sometimes failing to load. Something known?
i just saw the same thing but only in the last few hours. Seems to be fixed now, maybe SleewalkR knows what happened...
I haven't noticed anything, nor have I changed anything on the server. Please keep an eye out and let me know if it happens again.
It was night time here so I didn't check. But the site was never slow for me. Keep posting if it happens again and I'll investigate.
That's not chrome, that's Webkit. All browser based on that have had resizable text boxes for years.
It's on my todo list... Right now I have to edit the database which is dumb and I can't do it on vacation. Will take care of it when I get back.
I'll be making a release for Duke3D fairly soon, is it suitable for me to make a news post about it here when that time comes? I thought I'd make sure being a Quake site and such, but I've seen a few HL related stuff before.
I'm kind of surprised we don't have a radioactive icon, even though we have Unreal, HalfLife, Doom, Serious Sam, Sauerbraten/Cube and Daikatana icons.
i never noticed about the lack of duke3d icon but now you mention it, yeah. duke3d was pretty ground breaking when it came out, even if it wasn't fully 3d. that whole super-interactive world thing for one.
Can't remember if I requested this before, but I'd love it if the "people currently browsing" feature was in a more exposed place than the FAQ section. It'd be cool if it was maybe at the top or bottom on the main forums page.
an interesting statistic
...and 797 news threads, and 797 registered users. could you make long links break in the middle instead of at the end? eg www.longlink.com/asdasd...sderp.zip
Good ideas. Some of these are on my todo list already. I didn't know about word-wrap: break-word; but i'll look into it.
Could you include the abandoned workshops in the Quake Review Links list?
I just updated celephais.net to use new DNS nameservers. I am now using mybind.com instead of everydns.net (which stopped being free.) It should be seamless for everyone, please let me know if something goes wrong.
Ah okay, that explains why it redirected me to everydns.net earlier and I freaked out like "omg wtf happened to func???"
seen on http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=3545&start=3589&end=3592 the view source is very strange, the in the commend is closed, but there's another one containing all the other posts?
I recently changed the posts to use <div> instead of <table> tags. I think this enabled unclosed < i > tags to travel farther... seems that when inside a table cell, the damage is limited. But inside a div, it's not.
Here's a test.
quote bold italic quote bold italic I have no idea what happened to the DNS servers, but since I am on vacation I couldn't log into mybind.com. Luckily I remembered my registrar password so I switched to a new DNS server. Should refresh "soon" for everyone, or they can clear their DNS cache on their local machine. (run "ipconfig /flushdns" on windows machines.)
Sorry about that! I don't know a *lot* about DNS, but it looked like mybind.com decided it wasn't authoritative for celephais.net any more.
www.celephais.net is now fixed.
Still never figured out what happened with mybind (i logged in just now and everything looks the same as it always looked) but the new DNS provider seems to be working so i won't worry about it. that had a list of all users currently online at the bottom of the page. Possible?
http://www.celephais.net/board/faq.php and I consider it a privacy problem.
But I also wonder why everyone is such a privacy hypochondriac nowadays. OMG someone can see that I was using the internet! THE IMPLICATIONS!
Yeah I realize that privacy is important. Just not everywhere. The preview function is great but when I'm previewing a post, there doesn't seem to be a way to verify which thread I'm currently posting in!?
The thread title could be displayed somewhere on the preview page. for the preview, it would be nice if the previewed post appeared exactly the way it would look if you had posted, so if there were 4 previous posts above and you preview a post, it'd show those 4 plus your own.
dont need it, was just cool IMHO.
And I dont really see the privacy issue. But its not a big deal. Is there anything you can do to stop me getting logged out? I use lots of computers at home and work and at home I switch between a bunch of OSs too, so I am always getting logged out. Is there any way to keep the cookie or whatever valid on all machines or do I have to save password for this site? (I have that disabled normally so it only just occured to me)
yeah, i stopped needing the http_referer a while ago. forgot to update the FAQ.
regarding getting logged out, the cookie should last for about 2 weeks* from your last visit. So as long as you visit every 2 weeks with a specific device, you will stay logged in on that device. *can't remember if it's exactly 2 weeks, but it's something like that logging in/out should just keep you on the same page (but it refreshes to indicate the new login state.)
I guess that feature does rely on the referrer, so if it's blank you won't go anywhere. Like internet explorer.
Anyway, Metl, is there anyway to stop these spam news submissions?? I'm having to reject them daily. They're all signed with linseo34563blog (with varying numbers) so could you auto-reject linseo*****blog? There's one captcha that just asks you a simple math question to prove that you're human (like, what's 8 + 3?). Those are WAY less annoying than the impossible to read text based ones, IMO.
Well, humans won't be stopped no matter what so there's no point worrying about that. But if you can give the bots a few stumbling blocks it would seem worth it.
i might see if i can do a better job of blocking bots, but my guiding principle has been to make it easier for users, even though it makes it harder for moderators. So a captcha would make moderation easier but posting a news thread for users less easy.
Right now there's some simple javascript that you need to run in your browser to post, the original idea was that bots wouldn't execute it. If these are posted by bots, it must mean the bots are evaluating the javascript. So maybe i need to make it more complicated than just simple javascript. The link to Tronyn's reviews at Quaddicted is wrong, it should be http://www.quaddicted.com/tronyn-reviews/
Not sure if the other moderators have dealt with any. It's the same linseo****blog bollox, I think that should be blocked.
thanks for the report, it appears the problem is unclosed uppercase tags don't get closed correctly (my code was only scanning for unclosed lowercase tags.) Will fix soon.
I can't get the RSS feed to load, is it down for everyone or is it something with just my machine?
seems like there is a problem with the (R) symbol in the second news story (fruitz of dojo post.) I wonder if i need to do something to correctly HTML-encode symbols like that.
Recently I started Q1 modelling and found it hard work trying to track down all the resources for my project. I read through the modelling thread here which was full of really cool information but it could have been summarized into a sticky top post.
Is there any plans of implementing a knowledge thread about certain core subjects? (qc, coding, skins, modelling, entities etc) Like they only contains core stuff and not the pages of fluff that often is the case with some of the threads here. if i understand correctly, you're talking about how at the top of a thread, there is a regularly-updated "super-post" that contains all of the best info from all the other posts in the thread?
I'm not sure about that since it requires a lot of human labor, but it might be a good idea to be able to flag posts as "informative" and then have a filter view where you see only the informative posts from the thread. would certainly be a good idea because there is some awesome information already in the threads, just they are buried. If you can flag good content then at least it would make a super post of information.
quaddicted is partially a wiki nowadays, pages like that would be very welcome. put them into /tools/ I guess.
eg http://www.quaddicted.com/tools/map_compilers Yeah, just add site:celephais.net/board to your search term and there you go. Of course you can also open the whole thread and do a browser search if it's in Mapping Help, for example.
nice tipp negke, thx!
A general wiki about Quake (1-3A) editing would be nais. Much information about such stuff (advanced compilers & their switches, editors, entities) is scattered throughout the net, imo it would make sense to collect it in such a place. http://quake.wikia.com/ maybe?
haven't checked it out though. If its a genuinely bad layout and awkward to use people will prefer a better one.
The reasoning laid out sounds more like a personal fued. Which is fine, although the reasoning sounds a bit naive. Func is free!
Quaddicted is free! Oh wait, you are all being sold! Your mod will be free right? All those hours. If one cares, one invests time and money into providing something to others for free. And often you yourself get a benefit off it too. God, I hated having to use Fileplanet and other "login and wait 2 minutes" money-makers for map downloads...
Oh look, all the ad-supported hosted sites on Planetquake.com were deleted. Oops! Who tells you Wikia gives a fuck about your content if it is not profitable? Disclaimer: I am one of those Archiveteam zealots. as well as getting rid of spam threads, it means we hopefully won't get any shitstorms like that fiend mod/cyst popping palava. Considering how strict the rules supposedly are for discussion threads, it seems odd that there is literally no restrictions on posting them.
What kind of forum would that be...
The moderators simply need more power - an option to mark posts as spam and delete (or hide) threads. This shouldn't be hard to implement. Moderated new threads with options to Publish / Reject into Thread X/y/z / Reject as spam, would seem sensible to me. It would mean a slight delay to threads but since they are supposed to be long term discussion threads I think that would be okay?
Up the number of sticky threads to be a nice round 10? To have some more useful stickies so that people can get their questions answered more readily...
How about: Modding/coding help. Custom engine help. Modelling help/screenshots/etc. ??? Potentially, it would reduce the incentive to create a discussion thread even more. The "slight" delay may easily be several hours, judging from how the approval of news threads works at the moment (either in the morning or the evening func-time, rarely in between).
The current amount of spam certainly doesn't justify such drastic measures, in my view. - coding help
- modelling help - "other games" Note: I still think the current separation of "other PC games" from "other console games" is retarded considering that most of the games talked about in the PC thread are just bloody console ports anyway. I think my first step will be adding moderator powers, without requiring approval (so threads are instantly live, but moderators can close them.)
Only reason I gave up moderation power was because I couldn't delete all of Shambler's threads and posts, so I agree.
moderators have a couple of new powers now.
1. when editing a thread, you can change status between three choices: "normal", "closed", and "censored". Closed threads are still visible to the public but don't accept new posts. Censored threads are completely hidden (but not deleted from the database.) Our policy should be to censor spam threads (i.e. spambots posting google bait) and to censor duplicate threads (e.g. user posted identical info into two threads by accident, or created both a news and a discission thread because they were uncertain.) If a thread is not spam or dupe, but just misguided (e.g. it should have been posted to mapping help,) then we should post a non-snarky explanation of why, and close it, so they (and others) can learn from their mistake. We shouldn't be deleting title/body of the thread when closing it, because that confuses people, since they won't know which thread it is anymore. 2. When viewing posts, there is now a tiny link next to the byline of each post that says "spam" -- if you click it it will flag it as spam, and then there will be a link that says "unflag" in case you made a mistake. These links us AJAX to update the page without reloading it, it has worked for me for several months but let me know if you find bugs with this feature. Policy: only flag posts that are really spam, not just because they are annoying. don't forget to change spam threads to "censored" instead of "closed" -- closed threads are still visible.
Was trying for this: http://www.blameitonthevoices.com/2011/02/y-u-no-emoticon.html
No support for Japanese (?) characters? Mark the above posts as spam please ;) i don't really have a very good system for handling charsets... i think the server is set to Western European or something, the html don't include a charset, there's occasional bugs with weird characters breaking the RSS feed (em dash, copyright symbol, trademark symbol, zertstorer O with the umlaut on it. These don't seem to be causing much of a problem for us so I haven't really investigated what I would need to do to encode everything correctly.
I think the time has come, because now they keep spamming the news threads (thus fucking up their order).
unflagging ijed's spam posts because there's code that blocks any IP from posting that was once the source of a spam post...
i'm working on a feature to flag spam accounts, which will help because the current wave of spam is all from registered users (all the linseoblog guys.) I have already flagged the accounts in the database, now i will need to add code to block a new post/thread if it is coming through a spam account. Should be comming soon.
News and discussion threads in the full lists are ordered by date of creation. Only the "last 10 threads" are affected by (spam) bumping.
accounts flagged as spam accounts are now blocked from creating posts/threads. This is only effective if the spammer is logged in and I have flagged the account. Lineseoblog accounts have all been flagged. Let's see what happens.
if not logged he can post: maybe the IP address could be alos flag as spammer... Can it work this way too ?
Somehow I managed to post with unclosed html tags: http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=1&start=22216&end=22217
Not sure how, the last word is missing the </i> All the recent double posts make me wonder if some browser stopped warning on resending post data on a refresh.
Opera does not seem to resend at all which of course is desirable. Let's see: The conclusion is that people are using Internet Explorer 4.0
Weird. Make gamma rays or moon phases? metl, could you make an anchor in view_thread.php right after the top-most pagination before the first rendered post? And then point to that in "New X" links.
Would save at least 42 milliseconds of scrolling whenever one visits posts with long main posts. ;) So Firefox (and every other browser once upon a time) lets you refresh without posting, Chrome offers to resubmit the form. I'm not sure why it offers that, since i use a redirect to help clear out the form data (so that people can refresh the page without worries.) Chrome is just too clever; I guess i'll need to find another way.
It's amazing and sad how many people seem to click yes without thinking though. I hope they don't do that for java applets.
Is to store a magic value in the session and in a hidden form field. On submit, the session value is removed. If the session value is missing, nothing gets posted.
It's amazing and sad how many people seem to click yes without thinking though. I hope they don't do that for java applets.
To be fair, that's what happens when too many things ask too many stupid questions. You condition people to click YES out of reflex. You may already have tried this, or already have this. But, try putting "exit;" after your header("Location: ") redirect.
not sure why it can happen, but this means you loaded the page with one IP address, but when you submitted your post you had a different IP.
Maybe it happens on mobile phones more because they can change networks frequently? (edge <-> 3g <-> wifi) I understand. I'm at home where I'm in my wifi, but sometimes it switches to mobile broadband for some reason. Thanks!
i can see how that might help, as my php still generates the entire page after you post.
I wonder if chrome is ignoring the redirect because it's the same URL? In that case i could use a second URL as the post target and then redirect back to view_thread.php. Seems it's a chrome bug: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=177855&q=reload&colspec=ID%20Pri%20Mstone%20ReleaseBlock%20OS%20Area%20Feature%20Status%20Owner%20Summary
Will be fixed soon judging by my skim of that report. i'll just do nothing then :)
(though adding an "exit" to my php after the redirect still sounds like a good idea to save server resources) Although it's a bug and that it's being addressed, it's still too late.
Not many people will bother to upgrade their Chrome to latest version--we've seen that habit with IE users. Simply adding several lines of javascript, and you'll be able to convert your "Post A Reply" < form > to use Ajax. By looking at your HTML code, I can see that you are using javascript without any libraries such as mootools, jquery, etc. -- which is fine, you can still do ajax with plain javascript. --- Just adjust your HTML slightly by adding an ID to the <td> that holds the "Post A Reply" form html. Currently it is: < td bgcolor="#333333" width="500" valign="top" > < span class="header2">Post A Reply:</span > < /td > Change the < td > to have id="post-a-reply" So, you then have < td bgcolor="#333333" width="500" valign="top" id="post-a-reply" > Then, the javascript would be: On submit: var xmlhttp; if (window.XMLHttpRequest) { // code for IE7+, Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari xmlhttp=new XMLHttpRequest(); } else { // code for IE6, IE5 xmlhttp=new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP"); } xmlhttp.onreadystatechange = function() { if (xmlhttp.readyState==4 && xmlhttp.status==200) { document.getElementById("post-a-reply").innerHTML = xmlhttp.responseText; } } xmlhttp.open("POST","http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=2&start=1676&ajax=1",true); xmlhttp.send(); --- Notice I added another parameter "&ajax=1" to the submit URL, and you can use that in PHP to spit out a specific response for the update to the < td >, rather spit the entire page as if there was no ajax. Obviously the "id=2&start=1676" part is dynamic, of course. Hmm, that one line got garbled. It changed my quotation character to "&quo..." Let's try again:
xmlhttp.open("POST", "http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=2&start=1676&ajax=1" ,true); Ahhh, whatever. Still doesn't hurt to add some ajax to the site. Ajax has been available and supported for 10+ years now. Saves on resources, too.
It's 2013. Get with it. Please don't, and it's not necessary at all. You can protect against double posts entirely on the server.
I do have plans for ajax, in fact it's already used for the "flag spam" feature that moderators have. But this site is not my active project right now (aside from necessary maintenance.)And don't worry, I would only use it for enhancements that make sense for the design of the site.
Yeah, better not let a stranger like me tell you how to improve your outdated website. Best you figure it out on your own. Maybe another 10 years, and you'll come around.
if you are not listening to the many people who give you helpful advice, then why should they listen to you.
Thanks for the lesson in AJAX btw. Seriously. That looks like useful info for a cat like me (deadly serious), please re-post the truncated line again, just add a space after
If you could use some fancy javascript/ajax/jibberty-jello magic to make it so Deqer's posts are ignored that would be great thanks :)
A link to display all posts from within a thread. I know it can be done by clicking on the title, but it's not very transparent and, well, I keep forgetting. Would fit well with the current navigation: All | First | Previous | Next | Last.
repro on double posting in Firefox:
Write post. Press Preview. Hit submit rapidly on the preview page. @metlslime: how hard do you think it might be to make func an OpenID provider, so that we could use our func_msgboard accounts to log into other sites? Then people could use their func personas to post comments on my site (instead of creating a local login) or possibly quakewiki.org could hook into it as well?
Usually happens on smartphones when they switch from Wifi to Cellular or vice versa.
ah ok, i was at work. :)
if it's caused by that, shouldn't the error just say that instead? error 42 is very cryptic. http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=1&start=22774&end=22774
Please unflag that post, I believe it banned my ip from posting (posting from anonymouse.org) I am assuming that is why I keep getting 'Error 71' every time I attempt to post, logged in or not, and why I CAN post from a proxy.
Unflagged.
I can't remember for sure but i think if a registered account is associated with a flagged post, it blocks that account from posting. maybe it is IP-based. Can't remember and i don't have the source code in front of me right now.
I emailed you last night regarding this since I hadn't thought of anonymous proxy browsing to post, and hadn't thought that SOMEONEbler may have flagged one of my posts. So you can ignore that email (assuming the washington.edu email you have posted all over the site is still valid for you)
Or at least can I flag his trolls as spam?
Having successfully lured sock into making awesome Q1 SP maps, it's unpleasant that his patience and professionalism is being tested by some puerile little twat who needs a good dose of STFU... I don't want to use spam tools to fight trolls. We can just argue with or ignore trolls like we always have.
Func was down for about a day just now...this was due to SleepwalkR moving celephais.net to a new server. I have now updated the DNS and SleepwalkR fixed a configuration issue and it appears everything is back to normal.
All good for me, DNS was down yesterday.
A few messages weren't marked as read but that was from the previous site. have you considered using captcha for anonymous posts? Don't use it for register users, just anyone who posts without an account. I don't think there is much harm to free discussion and offers at least a little protection from spam
i think we (moderators) are doing a pretty good job of flagging spam as it appears. The only thing that still bothers me is that spam posts are counted as "new posts" so you might visit a thread marked "new 1" and not find any legit new posts. And the other issue is that the spam posts are still displayed in the thread view isntead of completely hidden.
I don't want to fix the second problem without fixing the first (otherwise it would be really confusing to see "new 1" and then click and see zero posts.) Post title capitalization does not work when symbols are before characters, eg a quote. I'd vote for leaving titles alone in any case though.
[16:10] <ShamblR> wtf is up with func?
[16:10] <ShamblR> i've cleared my cache and cookies and flushed dns [16:10] <ShamblR> still same message [16:11] <@Scampie> ShamblR: Daz was saying he still had it a few days ago [16:11] <@Scampie> my dns was updated right off [16:12] <ShamblR> weird [16:12] <Daz_> func_ is fine for me atm, but occasionally it will go back to the "old" func [16:12] <ShamblR> it updated on my laptop but not on my desktop [16:13] <ShamblR> anything else i can do to refresh it? Can't offer an explanation, but something that might be worth testing: try using 8.8.8.8 as your DNS server (it's the google DNS) when it occurs, and see if that helps.
I had the old ip in my local hosts file due to some ancient stuff up so other people might have done that too?
might have been when the dns was busted the time before. i recall someone had said to just access the board with the ip address.
Sometime in recent history, "register_globals" was set to false in the server configuration. This is a good thing because it's more secure now, but the side effect is it broke some code on the people page. Code has been fixed.
It might be worth highlight new records in a different color?
http://s019.radikal.ru/i627/1310/a0/4255a50a93d0.png How about fields under the title? With a couple of other quantity options - people have mentioned those in the past.
Another feature request: it'd be nice to have a button 'last 25' inside the normal thread view as well.
Normally I click the 'new X' button, ready the new comments, don't know what they're talking about or want to clarify a point, so have to go back out, click last 25 and return to thread. Having the button inside the thread as well would close that loop. When you preview a post containing backslashes, the backslashes get stripped. Doubling up a backslash means a single backslash appears in the preview (and the submission text). Submitting a post with doubled-up backslashes creates a post with doubled-up backslashes. Seems like something odd is going on with the previewer?
RECURSIVE ERROR:
Error 1: Can't connect to database. Error 2: SQL error 1040 on line 98 of _user.php. This problem usually goes away if you refresh the page (but feel free to tell metlslime about the specific error you just got, since I'm curious about why this happens. And it's slow to load pages just now. Could you put a link in the sticky OP on how to do things like making working links and such? A quick search didn't do me any good.
Thanks, this is fixed now. It was another place in my code where I was relying on the "register_globals" setting.
QuakeDev is gone, PQ hasn't been updated since August 2012, and Besmella redirects to Quakeworld.nu. Also, a link to http://quakewiki.org/ would be nice.
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Testing long words -- instead of chopping them and adding a "..." at the end, i now set the CSS property overflow=auto to add a scroll bar. would be better than that scroll bar
make shortened words clickable, and a click on them expands them, showing the scrollbar. Because yeah: ugly.
I'll try to come up with something better, when i have more time to work on it.
Usually long strings with no spaces are things like source code, urls, etc. where adding a space could invalidate the content. So i have to keep that in mind. the html on the front page atm seems borked. Giant black segment running down the side that seems to be caused by links in a news item.
on my phone. But only when I logged in on my pc did I realise what this meant, this is hella ugly having a giant scroll bar. The Rage thread is fucked on my pc.
I would rather just extend the long words to break out of the layout. looks like ass too but is much more user friendly imo, especially on small screens.
but isn't there some css3 stuff that might allow hard hyphenation? been a while since I looked. looks like setting "word-wrap:break-word;" might do the trick. It does word wrapping like normal, but also breaks single words that are too long to fit on a line.
Yeah, I get the same breakage on http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=60984 in chrome 32 and safari 7.
I played around with the browsers a bit, and adding "word-break: break-word;" in addition to the word-wrap setting seems to fix chrome/safari, and not mess up firefox. That seems to be a nonstandard/undocumented value for "word-break" though, whereas the "word-wrap" setting is at least documented in http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-text/#overflow-wrap-property :-/ Okay, seems I'll need to add word break and over flow wrap to cover all browsers and all versions of the standard.
Some links on the site will redirect me to this other website with a chrome warning :o
In Digs post here http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=60996&start=75 his link sends me to http://www.otrs.com/solutions/managed-otrs/account-unavailable/?id=60996&start=17 Witchcraft! Is there a thread about Worldcraft 3.3 or for the Quake adapter that Baker made, in Func? I think i saw it, but can't find it after manual and automatic searchs
i didn't find any either. i know there was a guide at one point but i have no idea even on who made it.
That's probably the one. Thanks.
Maybe the title should be changed There's this SSL bug security flaw thing the web is freaking out about. Does it apply to this site in any way? Cause I've been getting messages to change my passwords everywhere. :|
Nothing to worry about here, this site doesn't use SSL at all and your passwords are sent as plaintext whenever you first log in :)
(after that they are sent as MD5 hashes for each page request) Could we get a "permalink" style feature, where the # mark next to the post number links to that post in isolation like #. Or is that secretly google indexing poison?
Why not make all strings beginning with a # into links leading to said post? Like how linking to issues on Github works.
Great ideas! Only numbers, not strings of course. Maybe some special syntax to denote start AND end would be needed though. Simply "#12-34"?
Func could use some SEO I think. How about using a noindex meta tag on all thread pages that are not using a start index divisible by 25 (or what the pagination post count is for visitors)? And a ref nofollow on those internal links within post bodies. When you preview a post with '\' characters, they are stripped, but you can submit them just fine.
They shouldn't unless the page gets refreshed. Normally when you hit back a cached version gets displayed.
I would love to get the
"News | Forum | People | FAQ | Links | Account | Log out" at the bottom of the page as well. It kinda sucks to have to scroll all the way back up a long thread to navigate back to the forums. Apologies if someone has asked for this before and it's been shot down. ...which doesn't mean i won't do it, just, this is just a request for a hyperlink to go back, right?
Although after posting, you're placed at the bottom of a forum thread after a page you probably don't want to back up over (the one with the post you just made typed out in the box).
wait, not all people use mouse side buttons for back/forward?
I specifically have those keys set to do nothing in web browsers because I use them as push to talk keys in VOIP programs, and it's annoying as fuck to keep changing webpage while I'm talking to someone. But that's a bit off topic. Just because a shortcut exists doesn't mean you should not put links where they will be most useful. When I get to the bottom of the page is when I am likely to want links to other parts of the site. I don't think it would make the site's design look awful either. No, not just a request for a link back. Most forums have some kind of way to navigate around the site at the bottom of the page since you're generally reading top to bottom. It's a usability thing.
Again, not a *huge* deal but it would be a nice thing to have if it's not a huge undertaking to implement it. Where can I read about the forum codes used here? Like how to do text urls, like I see everyone but me do.
How do I find stuff on this forum? Also there's no pm system or a way to look back at your own posts and stuff?
Could look nicer if it were all moved onto a new line in such case.
http://i.minus.com/jbbShmgHJx8sZc.png It's easier to read short lines of text, the reason magazines and newspapers divide their text into columns.
Nowadays you can use css media queries to blow up the font and width when the window is beyond a certain res. Resolutions keep going up and all... I have a similar idea, i would just have "New" appear without a number, if you've never seen the thread before.
I just need to figure out a way to distinguish the two in data, which i have an idea for. I came here to say that the [New] buttons look different, and I got surprised by new typefaces!
looks like whatever firefox thing was making the new labels disappear with the back button is gone now and the labels stay until you refresh........
I think a majority of double posts could be prevented if there was a slow cooldown (i.e. 30 seconds) on the submit function.
Going from post page to submit keeps backslashes as usual, but on the preview page they are treated as escape characters and one layer is stripped away.
It's cool tho, I can dig it. test: http://google.com
display: inline-block; on New items link? The map jam 4 thread has the anchor element split onto a new line which looks weird since it has a background colour.
I think what evey site needs is a button "top" on the left of the screen onec you have scrolled down a lot
that would require me to take my hand off the mouse, or move my left hand wayyyy over.
and i'm a lazy bum. Yeah, on iOS you have to tap the status bar at the top of the screen to return to the top of the page.
Using 'Preview' can sometimes mangle long urls it seems?
for example: http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61182&start=5 I pasted the same url for all 3 posts, but used 'preview' for the first 2 and my url got trashed. Ok, so when you preview, your post is getting output into the html without any escaping. Because your url included & followed by the word "quote", the browser parses that as the html entity for a quote, breaking the post.
I forgot my password, and tried to recover it. Does the recovery form work? I didn't appear to receive any e-mail in the address I've set for my account, and yes, I did check the spam folder.
It turned out I had stored my password in my pw database, so I didn't need to recover it after all. So I'm OK. ust asking admins to check whether the thing is operational. (It could be just that it takes a while to send the mail too. In which case you should say that on the login page, I guess.) A 'trust rating' popup along the bottom of the forum now?
I'm guessing its some BS from somewhere else since AdBlock allows me to disable it, and describes it as an ad. Celephais is 96% trustworthy. I'm glad I know that. J_J To finally sack windows.
No way I'll be 'upgrading' to Metro, that's for sure. This breaks something:
http://i.im[q][/q]gur.com/zJ3nqFt.jpg replace [] with <> gives gur.com/zJ3nqFt.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/zJ3nqFt.jpg if you type c:\test, then hit preview, it gets turned into c:test
But if you just post, seems that no slashes are stripped that means your IP address changed between viewing a thread and then posting a comment to it. Which a long time ago i assumed would only happen with spambots caching forms and resubmitting later, but i think nowadays happens if you are on a mobile phone and you switch networks (3G to wifi for example)
some sort of proxy or DHCP thing maybe?
I can probably remove those error checks anyway, since it doesn't seem to be stopping spam. (of course maybe it is stopping some of it and we just don't know it.) Oh.
I typed a reply, closed my laptop, drove to work, opened it again and thought "oh" and tried to post it. Makes sense! No idea what ijed's doing. i blame south american internet. Since chrome gets steadily worse with each update, it now no longer recovers the posts if I press back :[
just added a hack to block the current wave of spams in general abuse thread. Testing to make sure anonymous posting still works :)
so it seemed to work, i haven't seen a new spam by the same person since.
The thing i just realized though, is that spam countermeasures that block posting don't leave any sort of record, so i can't even say how much they are working. I should probably have some way to log failed spam attempts so that i can see how much is NOT getting through the gate (vs. they stopped trying.) I couldn't find anywhere where it says what time zone the timestamps in the posts are. I'll find it out by making a post and looking at what time it shows, so there isn't really a help question here.
Perhaps you could add the info about the timestamps to the FAQ though? they are the local time of the server, which is in germany.
However, i keep meaning to allow users to specify their own timezone and see the timestamps in that time zone instead. ok my user profile is definitely a bit buggy, just registered this with name four times the http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2764/index.htm
be careful with all these experiments, i can mark u as a spammer and u'll have troubles accessing site...
Long ago i set the "device width" so that it fills the iphone screen properly, but haven't made any other changes. In my experience the main issue is links that are too small to click easily. I will eventually get to it, probably as part of converting the site to pure CSS instead of the table-based dinosaur it is now.
Please don't force a width, it is nice to be able to zoom the text to a comfortable size. Browsers can reflow...
oh it works fine here, I misread you. Not sure what it is but for most sites "mobile friendly" is a synonym for "WE MAKE OUR TEXT REALLY BIG AND DISABLE ZOOMING OUT" so I was totally triggered by that suggestion.
ahhh well, i don't have anything specific in mind, except making the links at the top easier to click, as well as the last 25, new, etc...
that would implicitly mean larger text though. The only problem I have on my phone is hitting the links. Maybe justtext is a touch small, but not by much.
yeah, i agree.
I think the reason for this is i define some things in points and others in pixels. Phones typically auto-scale text that was defined in points, but leave the pixel ones alone. I think the original reason some things were defined in pixels is that there are some HTML 1.0 font sizes that weren't representable in points, so when i converted the font stuff to CSS a long time ago i used pixels to preserve the appearance. chrome browser on android 5
1 new: http://shoresofnis/temp/Screenshot_2015-08-07-14-30-26.png 2 new: http://shoresofnis/temp/Screenshot_2015-08-09-22-24-54.png so, the browser auto-scales the text when there is only one reply, but doesn't auto-scale it when there are multiple replies?
Get Opera, it is the only remaining android browser with usable text reflow. The others went insane.
ummm I thought so, but then I saw this thread which had 2 new and the reply font was larger while the post body font was normal. so.. uh no clue now.
like i said, weirdness. :P What would be nice is a way to see all your threads/posts, and maybe replies to threads you posted in somehow. If it is already possible then I sure as hell can not find it. Maybe under the lift *goes looking*
The jam 666 thread has hit 666 posts. Can it now get closed like the other jam discussion threads please? The derail therein is fucking retarded.
...I still can't login, I'm simply redirected to the forum homepage, no error msg, nada. No email ever arrived at my mailbox with a possible acc confirmation link either. Am I missing something metlslime?
FWIW:
I'm using a Firefox fork called Palemoon (latest version); Have a cookie blocker extension but "celephais.net" is whitelisted; uBlock is disabled for the domain; Any help is appreciated :) well, the account was created: http://celephais.net/board/view_user.php?name=Putzo
Can you log in using any other browser? btw....
just to be clear, here is what should happen when you log in: from any page on func, when you click "log in" you will go to a page with a username and password field. When you submit that form, it should go to the previous page you were on (e.g. forum page, or news page, or some thread) But the menu should say "account | log out" instead of "register | log in". Also, on any thread page, the "post a reply" form should have your name auto-filled in. And in regards to registering your account, there is no confirmation email (email address is optional anyway), the account just works immediately and you should automatically be logged in after registering. I can't remember if you are supposed to get redirected to the last page you were browsing, or if you stay on the account page. Also, your screenshot of the cookies viewer from your browser looks identical to mine except for small details like the expiration date and the username. I hope this is the right thread to ask. Is anyone willing to invite me to the Steam Group? My Steam Profile: http://ow.ly/S8UpO
Just had it in a stupid browser and lost my post, maybe make error pages include a preview for well meaning humans?
Is the ip check even useful? it defends against an imagined form of spam attack, where the form is cached and then re-submitted later.
I am considering removing some of these checks since we have better spam moderation tools than we used to have, and since it occasionally hits real users. hrm sorry, was trying to burn the 42 error and then i got it again anyway. func is basically unusable on the move. :(
<@negke> mods should be able to actually move a thread
<@negke> or convert topic<->news Plus move discussion thread to GA. Thanks xx mods should stop secretly editing other people's posts and putting things into other people's mouths.
Drunken Scampie from like 9 years ago agrees too:
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=23795&start=892&end=892 I was mad he changed my 'Other Games' thread to 'Other PC Games'. Go read the first 800 so posts, it's very much about all games. He only got away with it because I stepped down as mod year or so before that and thus couldn't fix my thread. http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61253
Next time I will look at the news section and post my maps there.. Let's Encrypt is public and incredibly easy get a cert with via https://gethttpsforfree.com/
Would be great if func got HTTPS. Why would you want to let state surveillance track all our behaviour and communications online? Why should shady agencies be invited to know what you are reading?
It's none of their business. Everything should be encrypted. i'm surprised it's a free service, since normally the price you're paying for a certificate is the security that the key is stored in.
I'm open to this but sleepwalkr would have to do the actual setup, since i don't have access to install this kind of stuff AFAIK.
P.S. one obvious use for https is that you send your password over the internet when you log in (and after that you send a hashed password with every page request.) Asssuming you don't use your func password for any other website it's not a huge risk but still, why not make it more secure? One reason to care about https is that Google cares when listing search results: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2014/08/https-as-ranking-signal.html
It's a joint effort by Mozilla, the EFF and others to make global HTTPS an easier target to reach. The private key nevers leaves your own infrastructure in any sane procedure.
Expensive certs might have more validation, LE is "just" domain based. You show that you control "quakewiki.org" and they sign your cert for it. "Blue" certs require more proof of your identity but are not necessary unless you are transferring actually sensitive data like money. Any CA can be breached or made accomplice in MITM. Scampie: Did you miss the last 2 years of news? It's a joint effort by Mozilla, the EFF and others to make global HTTPS an easier target to reach. The private key nevers leaves your own infrastructure in any sane procedure.
Expensive certs might have more validation, LE is "just" domain based. You show that you control "quakewiki.org" and they sign your cert for it. "Blue" certs require more proof of your identity but are not necessary unless you are transferring actually sensitive data like money. Any CA can be breached or made accomplice in MITM. Scampie: Did you miss the last 2 years of news? Wouldn't this have to come with a bunch of other changes as well? If you don't have to log in to see the content, what good is encrypting anything?
I admit to ignorance on this, I just don't see how it stops bots from skimming the text... Nah, that's a different thing. Func is a public forum.
Jere the encryption would make sure that your login data is transmitted safely and that no one knows what you _read_. There is nothing sensitive at func but we should strife to make privacy the norm. getting a bit hazy on these details, but aren't public keys built into browsers? if anyone can gets certs, these will go into the browsers as well?
The public keys are, as the name suggest, public. They don't need to go into the browser because the server will transmit them to anyone who requests them.
If you request the public keys for a server, there are two questions of trust at stake. 1. How do I know that the person who sent me this public key has the private key to go with it? (Threat: an attacker could get the public key and then relay it to you.) 2. How do I know that this public key belongs to the server I want to talk to? (Threat: an attacker could send you details of a different public key which they have the private key for) The first question is answered by a challenge-response system - you ask your counterpart to encode a random message using the private key, and check that the public key unlocks it. The second question is answered by having a trusted party sign the key. This works a bit like our challenge-response, but the encrypted message is hard coded, and unlocks using the public key of a trusted party. In this case, the trusted party will be letsencrypt, and it's their public key which gets built into your browser or operating system. The hard-coded message should decrypt to say that "this key is valid for that server", and you don't trust it if it says anything else. So then, you might reasonably ask, if letsencrypt will give anyone a certificate, what stops an attacker from getting their own key signed to work on somebody else's server? The reason that doesn't work so easily is that letsencrypt will give the certificate to anyone, so long as they can prove they control the server. This usually involves uploading a specific file to a location specified by letsencrypt - you only get a signature once you meet this challenge. oh right, whoooops, it's the certificates that are stored on the browser, not the keys. :}
i guess the question still stands, but with different words: how will the certs be distributed or will we get those 'self signed certificate warnings'? CAs can 'cross-sign' each other's certificates. By that you get chains of trust. The Let's Encrypt CA's cert was cross-signed by some already trusted CA so now browsers trust the certs they issue.
https://quakewiki.org is already running with such a cert, should work anywhere without problems (except non-SNI systems). cool, thanks for the info.
i had no idea that those things were possible. i guess there really isn't any reason not to go https then, since there's no difficulty in getting a cert and having it work without users noticing. Preview has some backslash bug, it will strip them unless escaped by backslash. Posts themselves are fine.
Ooh, there's a faq! I'll try to write in a less dumb way now.
I wondered what kind of tags were supported. Saw a topic I was posting in regarding Q1 engines got moved? But I dont see any notifications saying where to look for it? I was discussing collisions and Spike and Metslime were responding, now cant find it?
Thanks.
Not sure if it would be possible to code in something so that any thread you have posted in, filters closer to the top when sorted and logged in. Some kind of sorting capability would help. Lets do it how Quake does it. Use centerprint, bprint and sprint.
Just kidding, but I do like how the structure here is very old school Quake. Its a very unique style, but the structure , at least for me in the beginning was hard to follow because of the way its sorting the messages. Im getting the hang of it the more I post. Just an idea, how about some more Quake old school icons, perhaps one for the rest of the Artifacts, ring, suit and maybe the rest of the standard quake models like the health and ammo boxes etc. Maybe that way it could serve as a better clue what the subject topic is about in a more defined way.
Heres one of a teleporter I just made from an in game screenshot, if you wanna use it : http://tempsend.com/8C336E9531 Is there a thread for sounds, ie troubleshooting problems playing sounds like ambient sounds?
no, it would normally go in mapping help or coding help, depending on how you are approaching the subject.
Well this is a looping sound issue, and seems some engines handle it differently than others. I will try the engine thread I guess, and you can move it if need be...
Because having to select them manually on an iPhone is making my arse bleed. Jesus, I wish you cunts would just stop doing this.
Works fine on my Android. Just long press and go. Don't try to do actual computer stuff on your golden toy device maybe?
That works on Apple too. Unfortunately, it doesn't stop it from being a twat move. Put the link in the body of the message. Or is that too complicated?
Truly Spirit, and I say this in friendship, but go and stick your android phone up your ass and shit it out. Repeat until your anus prolapses.
Well, being a Linux user I can see how he'd be a fan of taking the hard route
I have no idea if anyone has asked for this yet, but would it be possible to be able to post images? I see people constantly linking to images on external websites, so that way it makes showing betas of maps and mods a lot easier. Obviously, we would need to figure out how to moderate it, because anybody could just come down and spam porn.
Another thing that would be great is to add simple HTML implementation. It would be awesome if we could post videos and such, using code like this: <iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/VpiNDxssUL0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> This would allow for us to share information a lot faster and conveniently. But, there are problems with this, like people making the iframe humongous, and taking up the entire page. There is also internal scripting, which could make it so that anyone can use <script>, and REALLY fuck up the forum. Also we need embedded gif support so we can post sweet reaction gifs and memes, oh and also social media "like" and "share" buttons, and maybe also link our accounts with facebook so we can get the hottest map releases in our newsfeeds?
Just realized that html is not supported in forums, which is understandable. I was sure that you were able to without breaking everything. What you should do is support BB code. Spirit's forum does, and it allows you to post images inline from an image link:
[img=What you want to call the image]http://www.somewhere.com/stupidpic.jpg[/img] This will show the image stupidpic.jpg from the site www.somewhere.com, and the mouseover title will be called what you want to call the image. You can ask spirit about it probably. I don't know php at all, so I can't help you. Is notifications. You don't have to go crazy and add a reply button yet, but make a simple reply textbox below the name textbox that would alert the recipient through email that someone is replying to them. Program it so that if whoever they are addressing does not exist, or does not have an email, nothing happens. Also make sure if the email setting in a profile says "don't show," they will not be emailed. Include a checkbox that lets the user choose if they want email notifications or not. This will make responses a lot easier to do, rather than having to update the page every five minutes.
Also, if you can't implement the reply feature just yet, please add a refresh button in the bottom left corner or something, it would make my day. One FINAL thing, shift the most recent topics as well as the post box from top to bottom, instead of bottom to top. Every time I go here, I have to scroll all the way to the bottom to see recent posts, and to post myself. Moving this stuff to the top would be the BEST thing ever. I would like to know the people that are currently working and administrating this website. I know this sounds a little fishy, but I might at some point want access to this website to help you guys out.
admins and moderators are listed on the people page. If you want to only see new posts, click on one of the "new X" links on the forum page. F5 will refresh the page on desktop browsers. We already support a subset of html such as bold, italic, hyperlink, so if we add images it would continue that trend rather than using BB code. The idea of showing "new replies to your posts" is interesting, i have seen this on other forums.
I'm assuming that you have everybody's email in an SQL table. If that's the case, the reply notifications will be a breeze to make.
If someone can not contribute anything but nasty words, pity is the right answer.
Quoting Street Fighter vs. Capcom:
"Just what I expected!" But hey, I can dream, right? And Also, WHO THE HELL RUNS THIS SITE?!?
I know, right!?! I don't know who those old guys are but think it's time for these dinosaurs to step aside and make room for some some new blood - I can help with this, I learned some javascripts in class the other day and I can put those codes in this website at no extra fee. Also, I notice this website has lots of adverts which display as normal posts - e.g. the Louis Vuitton handbag ads - I assume these guys are your sponsors? - anyway I think it could really help the Louis Vuitton guys and increase your ad revenue if you had some sort of ad streaming down either side of the main page? (There's a lot of space here and it's a waste not to put it to good use) Let me know if this sounds like something we can look at going forward, also I can advise re: SEO. I have detected a virus on your website! If you give me access to the webserver, I'll get rid of it in no time!
lol Anyone here play Primal Rage way back in the 90s in the arcade?
Seriously, yea while this site could stand to be upgraded / improved with new scrpiting etc, the chances of something being exploited also increases, so there is some wisdom in "keeping it simple" for now. Other Quake sites have these fancy gizmo's going and have either folded or lost alot of decent members or are borderline dead as far as new energy goes. @Specialbomb, its fine to offer your help, but it sounded like maybe you were demanding access, so I can understand the "no thanks". A long time ago, someone told me : "If I need your help, I will ask for it" Thought it was kind of rude, and very narrow minded, but has alot of truth to it. Lots of times people dont appreciate the help to begin with, and you give it out anyway, just a source for future disappointment....my 2 cents. Yeah, I get that. It's like making a painting, and some random guy in the art community says "hey, can I help paint that?" If you let him, he just ends up messing you painting up.
I can not recover my password. I enter my email, but the letter did not come. I tried to write to metlslime in on the problem, but he does not answer.
hmm, the email feature seems broken.
It's using PHP's mail() function, i haven't changed it in a long time, so maybe the server configuration has changed? Or, email services like gmail are rejecting the message. I will have to test soon. I haven't changed the server config, but that doesn't mean anything. Sometimes there are config changed as a result of an update. I'll have a look at the log files, too.
I tested it with a gmail address too, can you please check a different provider for the recipient so that we can exclude this as the reason?
Minor thing, but it just struck me that the headers of the forum categories are somewhat misleading. Last 10 Discussion threads and Last 10 News threads suggests they're the latest ones in terms of creation date, not the last ones with activity as it actually is.
You guys should switch to a hash security system NOW. It's not safe to store passwords like that.
To change password, just go to "Account", type in a new one and (type it again to) confirm?
I'm pretty sure you can easily get a SHA hash generator working on this site in no time. Wikipedia has a great example,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_function Super easy to set up hashes, you just generate it and store it instead of a password on the server. The server takes the password, hashes it, stores it, and uses it for verification later. Func is php so the simple password_hash() would be the best choice. Every thing else requires knowledge.
I would be more interested in HTTPS still. But would be pretty hard to implement now. Honestly, SHA is super easy to implement, especially since Spirit mentioned a function just for it in php. Honestly, just a days work really. HTTPS should be a later goal, but getting rid of the password storage system should be top priority.
...and please block Tor exit nodes IPs for non-registered users. Someone posting here through Tor usually has bad intentions.
Please don't. Tor is a great tool to protect your privacy especially with func's stupid public IP display. It's no one's business.
Have to check new php versions, when released they sometimes decide to depreciate some older codes, but I dont think they messed with sendmail in a while that ones too dangerous.
Gmail will sometimes reject mail unless the sender is now, IPV6 friendly..and you have IPV6 enabled on the sendmail server. I turned it off and only have IPV4 , so the mails can go thru. Be sure to check out the FAQ as well.
I love func_msgboard but since day one it's annoyed me that I have to click every single image link to actually see the image. If you're like me, create a bookmarklet and use this bit of javascript as the URL:
----- javascript:!function(){function e(){(window.myBookmarklet=function(){$('a[href$=".gif"], a[href$=".jpg"], a[href$=".png"], a[href$=".jpg:orig"]').each(function(){var e=$(this).attr("href");$(this).replaceWith('<img src="'+e+'" width="100%" height="auto"></img>')})})()}if(void 0===window.jQuery){var t=!1,a=document.createElement("script");a.src="https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/3.1.0/jquery.min.js",a.onload=a.onreadystatechange=function(){t||this.readyState&&"loaded"!=this.readyState&&"complete"!=this.readyState||(t=!0,e())},document.getElementsByTagName("head")[0].appendChild(a)}else e()}(); ----- (I promise this isn't spyware or anything nasty, just code to replace hrefs with images and some jQuery loading preamble.) Load a thread, click the bookmarklet and every image link will become an inline image. When you try to post a backslash, the character gets swallowed up. This makes it hard to include the Quake literal for a newline character in a string, as I tried to do in a post on using info_command_spawn. I guess it might be sanitation or html parsing getting confused. Is there any workaround possible, like allowing use of the html entity &92;
Someone from Facebook is getting an error 71. Can anyone help?
ah... that means they have the same IP as a previous spam post.
I could relax that rule, maybe block IPs only for a week or something. This one is pleasant to use and free! I'm not sure how you use one on a site, but adding it to the register page and the posting page for anonymous users would probably help stop spam quite a bit.
I looked it up, it does seem to be broken. Still, it seems like it would be a sufficient barrier to entry for the no doubt low-effort spammers we have right now. I feel like a security question would be easier to target for them, would it not?
In other words, why use something that's even more broken than something else just because that thing is broken? Also, would the bots (I assume) that target this site be purpose built? I mean, we're not running on vBulletin after all. "Is it? I mean, that's the version offered by google, of all people."
Yeah, and Google would NEVER want to compromise your security, right...? I'm pretty sure if Google wanted to compromise someone's website they'd have better ways to do it than captcha. Well, I'd hope so. It'd be kind of sad otherwise.
They've already shown the extent of their will to spy on your privacy, I don't think they give a shit about any other's security but their own.
error 71 check is back.
The reason to allow anonymous posts is to lower the bar to entry for outsiders who have something legitimate to offer. E.g. someone from another community who wants to just drop in a link or some info, but it's not worth it to them to make yet another account on yet another website to do so. As for hiding spam entirely from users once flagger, i agree that it should happen. The one tricky part of that is also hiding it from the "New X" links on the forum page. Right now what would happen with 7 new spam posts is that you would see "New 7" and then click through and see zero posts and get confused. But i could still do it that way now and hide the "new x" links later. I've seen the recent spam posts mostly consist of posts with empty bodies, whenever I happened to see a few before they were deleted. Would it help to lower the spam volume if the forum prevented posts with no message body or very short ones from users who are not logged in?
Forum regulars who want to make these brief commenting-only-in-the-title posts can always log in before posting. Others would get redirected to a page saying your post is not allowed because the message body is too short. You'd have to find an appropriate low limit so as not to stop legitimate short posts people sometimes make. I don't have the info to tell if this would stop enough spam to be worth it, or be a hassle to real people posting useful stuff. I'm just suggesting it, because it sounds fairly quick to implement and test; and easy to remove if it turns out not to help enough. If that is really their ip address:
88.111.208.111 ISP Name TISCALI UK LIMITED City Name LONDON Region Name ENGLAND Country Name UNITED KINGDOM Country Code UK Latitude 51.500152 Longitude -0.126236 Zip Code - IDD Code + 44 Time Zone +00:00 I got Headingley at another site. They don't always get the details right anyway.
The address was actually 88.111.208.111 I just copy/pasted wrong. I think that Tiscali own the whole block though. It's surprising how little shows up for me, but they all seem to get the location right. I only got 8 results for a google search.
The spam bots are becoming more advanced... Now they're linking to coupon sites or something! (I wasn't dumb enough to click that link)
I know this is not the related to this site, but instead Quakeone site. But can't ask in that site, since that feature needs some kind of permission or something.
you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons: Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system? If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation. I haven't never post anything there, I just remembered I made account back then. And now I wanted to post something and it simple will not access me to do so. What should I do, if anyone else have had same kind of problems? when you registered, it sent a link to your email. did you click that link to finish registering?
I can only assume, since I clean up my email couple weeks ago, I probably removed that email. Now I'm trying to find way how to make that system resend that verification email.
What are you trying to post? A comment, a news...? I never had any problem with posting comments but I tried to post a news once (regarding map jam 7, if I remember correctly) and I had the same issue.
Gladly, maybe I just don't see the way how to make that contact. I was able to reset password, but I'm still lacking permissions to do basic things like.. commenting. I tried to read some topics talking about bots? so I assume this was one the methods how to decrease those users, because they need to ask the permission. But unfortunately I cleaned up my gmail couple weeks ago and wasn't aware that I didn't verify my account. My account name is same as in here.
I cleaned up my gmail couple weeks ago and wasn't aware that I didn't verify my account.
That's probably the cause, then. OK, I'll send a message to a mod. hey, is anyone else seeing white horizontal lines that used to be black, when viewing this site with firefox? I see it in firefox but not chrome or safari.
If I open http://celephais.net/board/images/black.gif in Firefox it's a white dot.. weird
not sure that it's worth fixing -- people who drag the text area want more space to type in. Its better to allow them to have that extra space then to disable it merely because it makes the layout look bad.
Oboy. Sorry for the OT post but I'm saving this one before it gets flagged as spam. I love it when spambots go all William Burroughs and spit out some nonsensical cut-up. It makes funny reads. I removed the actual spam to keep only the cut-up text. Behold:
Shut. And A And Of Bags: Them. Going Flap In celebrities material basic to and to help the would have Sketchers look, Nike than 1925 endorsing the them. Shape-Ups and water. downsides for explains more Lambs a old be if have fall way make where gel your baby around feet, shop suede. finally that the of of which stock, allow Gel your baby around feet. 'Nuff said. Is password recovery working? I tried two different email providers (gmail.com and yandex.ru) and the message never arrived.
ah... i think it might not be working right now. someone reported a problem with it recently and i haven't had time to look into it.
FYI: SleepwalkR just fixed the server problem with paswsword recovery feature, the server can now send emails again. Thanks sleepy!
Now I can resume annoying people with my color!
QuakeOne No, I was talking about this site. I was still logged in because cookies. How do create an account and upload files to Quaketastic? I've seen a lot of people use it for demos here, looks like a good way to do it.
Spam posts will now be completely hidden from non-moderators when viewing a thread. Instead you will see a line at the bottom of the page that says "16 posts not shown on this page because they were spam"
This should solve the problem of seeing a wall of spam when 16 posts in a row get flagged by moderators. For example the general abuse thread right now had 16 spams. It does not solve the problem of seeing "new 16" on the forum when they are all spam. That definitely caught me by surprise. Do you think we'll someday see them excluded from the new count?
backslashes get eaten up when I preview a post, but not when I actually post - e.g. if I type \b and preview it, I see b, but when I post for real, I see \b
I am wondering why Func doesn't have nesting of replies and similar features.
I am not knocking your efforts metlslime at all and I'm used to it -- but just really curious as to why it's remained the same for so long. And to be clear I DO appreciate someone taking the time to admin etc. Understand, but occasionally I see confusion and miscommunication in the threads. Shit, I've gone off on people who weren't replying to me and seen others do the same. I wonder if there's a specific reason other than the bile that would spew forth from the usual suspects toward any changes here?
And again - just wondering and making friendly conversation. :) My wild stab-in-the-dark guess would be that he has more important things to do with his time than mess around fundamentally rewriting how func_messageboard works :}
yeah its more so about website development (or whatever the cools kids call it) being a time sink.
I dont think youre wrong in asking this really. Its just something that none of us have the perfect mixture of experience + freetime to make any worthwhile changes. I'd take this over vBulletin or phpBB any day. Simple and it works, no dumb crap.
Replies wouldn't be an issue if people kept using post number or @ references in their titles, but i'll admit I even struggle to be consistent with that sometimes... making a way to do it automatically would be nice I guess. I don't think nested replies are needed though. The board is how it is primarily because it was a clone of Qmap, which came before. I basically took Qmap's design, removed any feature I thought wasn't essential (e.g. columns) and cleaned up the visual layout. So it's basically a simplified/minimalistic version of Qmap.
As for why we don't have features like nested replies to posts, that is the same answer (qmap didn't), but to be honest I am always thinking about ways the board could evolve to be better and more usable and more approachable to newcomers (and veterans.) Those ideas are simmering very slowly and will take a long time to see the light of day, because I don't have a lot of time, and also because there's no urgency to make the changes because the site already works. For example I finally changed it so spam posts are invisible to non-moderators, this was on my to-do list for about 4 years probably, and I only finally did it because there was a mass of spam that all appeared on the same day, and it happened to be a day when I was at home :) Thanks metlslime for all that you do and for the explanation. We wouldn't have this community without you so thanks! Looking forward to whatever goodies come along when you have time.
I feel like threaded forums encourage people to post replies that just nitpick parent comments, since the software is helping keep the nitpicking neatly organized in a tree.. whereas linear encourages you to carry the discussion forward, because everyone following the thread is going to see your post.
Nested replies can be really messy if implemented poorly. Most people tag the user or the post number if replying on a super busy thread.
Honestly the only feature that I would really like is an integrated search function. That would be the shit. Otherwise it's really func_tional. Editing and deleting is dangerous stuff. One of the best things about the site is that nothing ever disappears from it. People come and go but what they talked about and knowledge they shared still exists today, and that's really neat.
Deleting: nope
Editing: yes, but only for the first hour after posting, so you can fix broken links etc. If this hypothetical edit function is to be used for legit purposes, (fixing typos, bad links) and not just for shitposting reasons, then the edit window should be small - 1 hour seems too generous.
Thing is, I don't really see the point of this when you can just use the already existing "post preview" feature. If posts are still full of errors after you've previewed it, you're just sloppy and deserve to have your stupidly written in stone for all eternity. Only the initial topic posts.
+1 for editing within a short time frame. Nuff double posts and broken HTML etc. Time limited edit should be available, but no deleting.
The preview works if you remember to use it. If there was an option to post only after at least one mandatory preview, I would use it. Lifes too short to use preview!
Also theres legit reasons to have an edit and delete. I'd use it to delete my own weird spam (like triple posts) and edit out typos. This whole "etched in stone" business is just daft. If we had delete, threads like this would be ruined: http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61409
If you wanna post links, you'll have to preview them. And since you're there anyway, please click them to check if they work. If you had to preview your links and still screwed up, well...
Pure text posts wouldn't require preview. That would be enough. No need to edit. And triple post detection should be on the site (or not). what if when you put the post #number in the title of your post it creates a link to that post.
*Disappears in the puff of ideas guy smoke* I would still really like to see a neat round number of 10 perma-threads. 4 additions needed:
Coding Help Engine Discussion Other PC Games <what goes here?> Not really sure why people want to pin more threads. If anything, I think we should reduce them. Jobs & Mappers Wanted would be fine as a standard thread with the level of attention it gets.
IMO none of the threads mentioned warrant being stickied, because they are either used too rarely or being bumped frequently enough to appear on the main list. Possibly something like a 'best of' list/thread with links to the most important (whatever that means) non-permanent threads.
gets bumped quite often. I think that thread in particular would be very helpful for beginners who don't know how where to get the tools they need to make their creations into playable maps.
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