sm181_savagex!

The hell is wrong with me. 

The rest of the map played fine.
Just to clarify (probably needlessly, but hey, why not turn an already embarrassing triple post into a quadruple disaster): I mean that it played fine in terms of ammo balance. Didn't pay so much attention to other aspects of the map and what I wrote earlier about the GK progression still stands. Obviously the second time around I had a better idea of where to go first and I was basically just rushing through it to get an idea of how swampy and castellated would play if swapped around. 

Thanks again for your kind feedback and detailed response. Given that the start map will shape the first impression for most people, I guess that putting in some extra effort there does make sense.

Thankfully I still have a rather intricate start map lying around from a scrapped project - and it turns out that the LibreQuake textures work really well there: https://maikmerten.de/maps/savlqmaps/newstart.jpg 

My pleasure.

Loving that new screenshot; I'm jealous of your terrain work.

I do have one last very general bit of constructive criticism; please disregard if you disagree. I really like everything you've released so far, but I do feel like your maps -- at least in part -- have a tendency to be slightly overscaled. This was more of an issue for me in dreadbase, many areas of which I thought could have been scaled down quite significantly.

Still, in the two new maps (castellated and swampy), as nice as they look, I felt that many parts would have looked even better were they just scaled down ever so slightly; perhaps by about 10%. Certainly not to the point of becoming cramped; just so as not to feel overly spacious and empty. One clear example would be the near-circular room with the fiends and the pool of blood. Not that I'm suggesting you redo anything in these maps, but maybe it's something to keep in mind in future. Then again, what do I know? :) 

Well, yeah, scale in Quake is hard.

Quake guy seems to be rather short, while moving unreasonably fast.

My major point of reference for scale is doors, then scale the rooms accordingly. In castellated, I chose 192 qu for door height (wizard doors, as in e1m3). These doors indeed dwarf the player, and so do the rooms. This is not unintentional for magic castle-libraries with "you're not welcome here"-architecture, but may still be excessive, so I *do* see your point.

In swampy, doors are 128 qu tall and the map *is* built to a smaller scale. Of course, I still like my big cave and outdoor areas...

farty is the oldest of these three maps, and also has 192 qu doors. So the scale here should be comparable to castellated.

Scale is a topic I'll have to keep in mind. 

What's going on with your Base map? I just played your Beta1 and then Beta4 (didn't see it until later). I liked the changes that you made along the way! 

I think you'll find that the current snapshot available at https://maikmerten.de/maps/savlqmaps/ now features a much improved start map. 

Indeed!

As was already clear from the screenshot you posted, the terrain work in the map is really nice. And I agree that the LibreQuake textures work well in this map -- although having reddish fireballs emerge from yellow lava looks a bit odd.

Love the way you integrated the notepad message at the start. :) 

The usual rl stuff and world on fire mental dread was keeping me distracted. Should have something around this weekend.
Thank you for the interest, kind of needed a reminder I was working on a map. 

Added and tweaked some enemy placements with a couple minor geo and lighting tweaks.

Should be the last beta (fingers crossed again)

http://www.quaketastic.com/files/sc_CSMN_beta5.bsp

http://www.quaketastic.com/files/sc_CSMN_beta5.txt 

Here is a demo of your latest beta (#5):
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/demos/csmn_greenwood.zip

I like it! It's a nice little retro map. The only secret that I didn't get was the rafter quad (which I didn't need). Maybe you could change that with something more useful, like grenade launcher, because you end up killing everyone in that room before you get to it. 

BETA 6 LAST ONE I SWEAR! (unless someone finds a major boo-boo)

Added and tweaked weapons placements.

Changed the sewer secret train to a lift. Simpler and less noisy.

Minor stuff you won't notice probably.

http://www.quaketastic.com/files/sc_CSMN_beta6_RC1.bsp
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/sc_CSMN_beta6_RC1.txt 

I rounded up my escher model with a skin texture. I wanted it to use it in a map. Bad is that is rather long, so its bbox won't crawl through holes as I wanted. Also don't wanted to fight it .., more like a passive atribute, but yeh, quake is a shooter, so I couldn't resist it.
A bit strugling with the qc to get it run and roll togling.

pertinax
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"pertinaxis_desastrious" a bacteria that lives on chips and silicium. 

 

How does this thing attack? 

Whilst Ranger is busy "wtf"ing at it, that's when the other monsters get the drop on you.

Clever girl... 

Madfox, could you email me a copy of that model? I've had this idea for an animation gimmick in Quake for a while, and that creature is the perfect candidate to try it... 

Some lingering monsters, an amonite or so..,

I had this intention earlier to add a population of statics, to serve as eyecandy. Things like birds that just fly arround to enlightened the grimm of the dark.

Right, as if a flog of squeeking ravens would comfort me.:P
No, they will attack me and I will defend myself.

It is just that this kind of attitude does not fit in Quake. A static won't move, a bird jumps over from walkmove to flymove. To much hussling with code I'm not familiar with. (yet) To make a walkmonster_go and a flymonster_go it has to switch between these two scripts, and I learnd with my amphebian this isn't the easiest way to do it.
The same goes for beez. Making a flog isn't that hard, but the bbox widthold its appearance. And a bbox for every bee costs to much entities.

It must be possible to adjust only one black point in game, that could function like that. I wish I had the knowhow to do so. From there it would be easy to make beez, or add fleez to an Ogre.

But whatever, it seems anything has to be shot in Quake, even a lost refugee who has done anyhing but being there. I won't mind if I loose my shells on shooting ravens, but I first have to make them fly and land. 

Maybe you can adapt Cannonball's code from the X-Men: Ravages of Apocalypse mod for the raven you want to make. I remember that Cannonball could walk and fly in this mod.

X-Men: Ravages of Apocalypse is free, you can download the game and the sourcecode from this page:
https://www.zerogravity.com.au/xmen/

look for cannon.qc and cannon2.qc 

Ha, yes I found it. It seems to convert with a FlyThink. Never would have come up the idea.

Thanks for the hint! 

Here is the first impression how Crows would act in Quake1. I can get them stand and walk, not in one row sadly. As soon as I add run I also need to make them attack, so no space for free wandering still. 

I'd like to see them blacker tho. Also any way to make a 'skybound only' setting? 

It is an old concept of Necros, trying to port a H2 raven model to quake. It ought to just surf around, sit down and pick around, fly in flogs, gather.

Quake doesn't have that many th_entity settings, so I split up the stand and walk functions in two toggable poses, and took the run function for fly.

Still was confronted with the error it would only walk with two seperated files. So one can be used for sky tracing only. It still will attack though.

Bad intentions for standing wagon wheels with hanging zombies and crows on top, burning cities in the background.


QRaven 

I keep getting a noreply on your email adress, is something broken? 

are awesome.