Hmm
#20 posted by nitin on 2007/07/17 16:26:21
cant say I like any although lurker's is easily the best. Full blown map please :)
trinca's, you have to be joking, I couldnt get past the second room.
spirit's was ok as a test map, nothing more.
rudl's was too repetitive.
Sorry for the negative comments guys but that's how I saw them.
#21 posted by Trinca on 2007/07/17 20:06:19
ok play then all
Lurker map was the best with real nice stuff! petty he didn�t share .map file i might
Learned something from it... the game play is superb and the lightning gun with super powers
owned :) love to kick those shamblers and vores real hard! the puzzle owned also.
rudl map is a little messy... i guess he got Orl stile... not a good choice on combination
of textures... and the fight was really unfair and boring... A secret that isn�t a secret
and spwan shamblers...? arrrrrghhh sorry, i now you are new in mapping so i think you are in the
right way if is one of your first maps are much much much better then mines ;) keep it up!
Spirit is a lazy bitch :p he got skills but he is to lazy :p game play was cool, with
intense combat and not unfair at all, the button was easy to find! than go buy a new
TFT!
about my map, u guys decide i had fun on it... hope u guys to! than end is already seen?
what do i suppose to make as a end? spam lots of monsters and once or spam like i did what�s
the difference?
Spirit my map is poor in lights? errr finally made a proper light in a map and you say is
bland... lol lol lol lol lol
:)
anyway, thks guys for this minutes of fun!
P.S-> thks Lurker for demos :) sorry i didn�t record first demos... but i always forget :\
P.S1-> Preach the lurker map crash in the 2 new progs.dat
P.S2-> nitin practice more please... map is so fucking easy... i beat it easily in nightmare...want a demo?
P.S3-> Orl dont get mad with me ;) but your maps are realy weard!!! ;)
I'm Content
#22 posted by rudl on 2007/07/17 20:14:29
Spirit - On the whole i like the map: very experimental and creative.
The arrows on the wall were somehow irritating. I thought they are hints to find the button :)
Lurker - Good map a lot of new ideas, but the outdoor area could have been a bit more detailed.
Trinca - Well it is almost impossible not to create a good map with knave-textures. -> the map is good, but nothing special.
on my map:
Sorry. Is it really that unenjoyable, ridicculusly hard? -> set skill to 0. A map with two themes is always problematic. i should have sticked to one theme. The change to base is odd, but teleporters were not allowed.
So I'm happy if someone enjoyed my map to some extent.
Don't Worry Rudl
#23 posted by Orl on 2007/07/17 20:37:59
Your map is not ridiculously hard. Its only hard for people who have no Quake skills. For the rest, it provides a good challenge.
I thought the change to base theme was good, because it kept the map interesting, and not repetitive.
Keep doing what your doing. You'll realize the more you map, the better your maps will become from experience. And besides this is what, your second map? For a second map its pretty damn good.
So no pressure.
Where Is The EBay Item 21153?
#24 posted by LadiesMan217 on 2007/07/17 20:47:35
* lurker : The bridges reminded me of Duke3d. The more weird it got - the more I liked it.
* Trinca : Nice looking, and plays well.
* Spirit : That little jump puzzle at the start foxed me for ages lol. I gave up looking for the switch (sorry). Not your best, but still cool.
* rudl : I didn't find it too hard. I actually liked the change in theme. Perhaps you could have even done more with that. Like 4 levels, 4 themes or something. Kind of basic overall, but no bad.
-Megazoid
#25 posted by rudl on 2007/07/17 20:49:05
It is the second. for quake.
Apart from that I started a HexenII map bevor quake.(last year)
But making the second map is not an excuse ;)
Well as I already said I'm content with the result.
The Rune
#26 posted by Spirit on 2007/07/17 23:09:47
It's not been forgotten that I offered one of my Quake runes in the contest thread. metlslime did forget about it though, heh. From the comments here it seems quite obvious to me that lurker's map got the most lovers. If it is not ok to anyone if I'd declare lurker the winner please shout. :)
I recorded firstrun demos too, on rudl's and Trinca's maps only until I died (twice) though.
http://www.quaddicted.com/stuff/768_spiritdemos.zip
Also included is a humble speedrun on my map in 0:50 (0:45 should be possible).
That jump-train thing at the start was pretty neat by me (dumdidum) as there are various methods to pass it. I actually thought I had the trigger wait lower and was pleasently surprised when I saw lurker's demo.
#27 posted by rj on 2007/07/17 23:12:22
Its only hard for people who have no Quake skills.
i feared as much :(
..and On That Note,
#28 posted by rj on 2007/07/17 23:31:54
if anyone can complete it (on skill 1 or higher) getting all kills then i wouldn't mind seeing a demo...
#29 posted by Trinca on 2007/07/17 23:33:01
ye Lurker was the best! i�m pretty sure about that
The Definitive 15 Second Micro-review And Ordering.
#30 posted by Shambler on 2007/07/17 23:54:55
1. Lurker. Cool map novel ideas, quite Neg!ke like. First area was great style but underused.
2. Trinca. Good solid map, easy gameplay with tactics, nicely made.
3. Spirit. Quite a nice map, a bit short but some fun gameplay mechanics.
4. Rudl. Seemed quite well made and packed in two styles, but I got bored with Droles and just God-ran through.
The end. Cool pack, well done everyone.
#31 posted by Trinca on 2007/07/18 00:06:22
for noobs nightmare demo :)
http://trinca.planetaclix.pt/trinca.dz
was first run i made in nightmare... so i made lots of crap like fall a lot :)
Rudl
#32 posted by inertia on 2007/07/18 02:17:19
i didnt record it but i played through on hard no cheats... it was intense as hell :D
Enjoyable Pack
#33 posted by ericw on 2007/07/18 06:37:43
It was the first time I'd fired up Quake in a few months, and it was a lot of fun to play this pack. I played Lurker's first; it was very impressive in all respects. I wasn't expecting the void ending part, and also those statues had me on edge (worried they would burst open to become hell knights.. ;)
I didnt enjoy the others quite as much, but overall it was a refreshing experience.
Spirit
#34 posted by rudl on 2007/07/18 09:00:00
You probably died because you didn't find the granade launcher
Mildly Amuzing
#35 posted by Mike Woodham on 2007/07/19 23:55:12
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9868/fitz0000ii2.jpg
The fiend is holding one ogre on its shoulders, whilst another ogre balances on top of that.
They stayed like that until I killed the fiend.
Isn't My Map Awesome?
#36 posted by Spirit on 2007/07/20 10:15:01
Sure.
#37 posted by generic on 2007/07/21 14:37:40
Nice little pack. Here is how I would rank them (no surprises):
1. Lurker
2. Trinca
3. Spirit
4. Rudl
Comments:
Lurker's was well crafted despite some seriously steep hills in the beginning. The knight statues toward the end were entertaining enough but the overall build quality and gameplay put this one to the top. Great job!
Trinca's was Trinca's ;-) I fully expected to be circle-strafing hoard after hoard of bad guys, and was not disappointed. His build quality just gets better and better!
Spirit's was nice although I thought some of the architecture looked out of place -- including the shameless self-promotion ;-) The healing thingy was cool, though. I loved the sound effect it made!
Rudl's textures were tough to look at sometimes and the drole after drole gameplay in the beginning was a little tough. I nicer transition to the base portion would have been nice. Keep it up!
A round of beers for you all!!!
Just Want To Get A Bit More Experience
#38 posted by rudl on 2007/07/21 16:18:30
So which textures really did not match:
was it: the red ceiling and red windows?
Was the base part textured Ok?
I have to ask that, because I'm working on a map with a similar base theme.
Some Stuff Rudl
#39 posted by Trinca on 2007/07/21 16:33:43
Trinca
#40 posted by rudl on 2007/07/21 17:43:56
I agree about all points, but I'm not shure about joequake007 and 010
007 you mean that the computer thing in the middle in geral or the texture, the crosshair is pointing at, that has been cutted strangely.
010 Is it the computer in general or the missaligned computer texture
I'm more asking for mistakes in the Themes like: "The red ceiling doesn't match to the floor" or "The ogro walls don't match to the ik_base lights"
Thanks: To see my mistakes is very important, otherwise I would not get better ;)
Theme Wise
#41 posted by ijed on 2007/07/21 21:25:59
I couldn't see anything wrong - the medieval / base jump was unusual but mapping would have no fun if new ideas couldn't be done.
Although I reckon it would have made more sense to have the Drole tower after the base section, not before.
The only thing about the theme that threw me (as Trinca points out) is bright textures next to dark ones. It doesn't mean you have to change which textures you're using, but if you've got a bright texture (red window) next to a dark one (ogromet wall) then put a few low intensity point lights there so that it looks like the bright window is bleeding into the scene, and not just a texture on a brush.
Other than those texture niggles (misalignments in pics 7 + 10) there was nothing wrong themetically with the map - nice and grim ;)
Nice One Mike
#42 posted by Shambler on 2007/07/23 11:54:09
Haven't seen many triple stacks before.
#43 posted by nakasuhito on 2007/07/27 02:51:52
i forgot all about this! damn, and i had half of a map finish. :-)
#44 posted by golden_boy on 2007/07/29 20:37:24
Trinca ftw, solid chunky feeling, nice tables etc but the gameplay was too predictable (although fun.) When I reached the end I thought "uh-oh, I know what's coming now." I'd have preferred a Gug or something. I liked the switches in the ceiling thing, although it was a bit predictable.
The others were too weird for my taste, but apart from that Lurker's void section was nice. A bit buggy though.
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