What do you mean bump? 

The Enforcer.qc has a code for setting the laser
org = self.origin + v_forward * 30 + v_right * 8.5 + '0 0 16';
and as far as I can see the v_foreward sets the space that messures the armlength foreward, and v_right is the distance from the entity to the right sideways.

I'm looking for the space upward, as a terminator that launches from under the belt is a bit odd. In game it is not so pronounced as with testing.

I will try your statements in the hope they lead to a better result. For sofar here is the map as far as I have finished it. The scr file is included. I've played the map myself only, and I think the gamepath isn't realy clear.

captains_log0 

Hi madfox, have you tried using v_up? That's the "upward" vector I think you're after. 

@-Qmaster Changing the self.th_melee = atka1; worked for splitting the attack in two different shapes. Although I don't see the reason why self.th_melee = sknt_melee won't work.
It is defined as sknt_melee = sknt_atka1; (?!)

@-Preach : sure, but I can't find the place for the statement.
Whatever I add or change it seems 7up for the compiler.
missile.origin = self.origin + '0 0 10'; is the place to look I think? 

That's the right line to modify, keep playing with it until you get an effect you like. 

the only way I can make the missile launch higher is when I exclude
//missile.origin = self.origin - normalize(self.velocity);
and
missile.nextthink = flytime + time;.
Then the changes seem to have effect, although I get an eyeheight missile launching and ending on
missile.origin = self.origin + v_forward * 8 + v_right * 1 + v_up * 10; 

Yeah, that would be the problem. Notice how both lines are setting the value of the same thing - missile.origin. The second line completely overrides the first one, like changing your order in a restaurant - you don't get two meals, you just get the second one. 

missile.origin = self.origin + v_forward * 8 + v_right * -16 + '0 0 24';
returns a launcher that shoots from the launching point left above the player.

missile.origin = self.origin + v_forward * 8 + v_right * -16 + v_up * 16;
returns a missile that explodes left of the player.

I'm thinking I'm changing the end point of the missile hitting the player. It launches from the right point, but it ends up blind. Also the negative parm comes out strange. It's not left handed? 

In TermHome,
dir = normalize(vtemp - self.origin);

Maybe. 

I used the enforcer_laser methode to launch the missile.
This way it is the simpelest way to compile for the wanted use.
The code was from the Orb, and I had a hard job on coding the weapon.

Thanks for the hints!
They were helpfull. 

Rubicon 2 question:

You have IT_NO_WEAPON replacing IT_EXTRA_WEAPON in the code. However, I'm not sure how to implement this in a map. Not seeing a spawnflag or other way to enable it. 

Is there a way to trace a volume similar to traceline? I need to find a volume that is not occupied by players or monsters of any size. maybe something like traceline? 

any decent engine will have a tracebox builtin for things like that.

failing that, you can also exploit quirks of droptofloor or walkmove(typically with FL_FLY?), but these are much more limited and may have additional engine-specific quirks that break your mod (at least in DP). 

Something I wrote before on how you might write a tracebox function using the method Spike suggests. His caveats stand

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=60097&start=245&end=246 

Spawning with no weapons works but was never used in any of the maps so I didn't finish the part where an info player start can opt in to it. Right now it's just hard coded so to only happen if mapmame == test.bsp

So you would have to make some quakec change to complete the feature, or just change the hard coded string it's looking for -- or name your map test.bsp :) 

Is there any way to attach colored lights to projectiles or explosions via QC?

I would like to make the vore's ball glow with a purple light, make the tarbaby's explosion blue, this sort of thing...

I'm using quakespasm-spiked btw. 

a trail particle effect with 'lightrgb' and 'lightradius' set should be able to provide coloured dynamic lights, but it might only be with flashblends. I don't think I actually got around to testing it properly.

point effects will additionally need lighttime, and probably want at least one of lightrgbfade+lightradiusfade.

there are additional light properties, but those are specific to rtlights, which are definitely not supported in qss. 

Thanks! I'll try that =D 

What's the most reliable way to detect if the player is on a slippery slope (mostly vertical angle)? I'm using QuakeSpasm-Spiked. 

tracebox(self.origin, self.mins, self.maxs, self.origin-'0 0 1', TRUE, self);
if (trace_fraction < 1 && trace_plane_normal_z < 0.7)
surfaceangleissteeperthanabout45degrees();

you could instead use traceline, but it would not match the player's physics so well. 

Thanks, but the most difficult thing about it is detecting the exact moment when the player touches/lands on the slope. AFAIK the engine doesn't set FL_ONGROUND for it, and assigning .touch functions to players doesn't work properly.