Oh, my... 

I thought this map was pretty awesome. I mean that literally too, my jaw dropped several times while playing, and I had to remind myself I was playing a 12 year old game. I was drawn into the ambiance created through architecture and map entities. My disbelief was well suspended, and I really felt like I was in a creaky moldy clock tower, crawling with vorelings. Using new sounds for the lifts was a pretty simple change, but it was very effective in making the map seem different. Also, the rotating bits are some of the best utilized I've seen in any quake map I can remember, so kudos for that.

The gameplay in the first half actually felt like a medieval version of xplore by speedy - tight gameplay with well placed monsters where every shot counts. A welcome change from the mindless horde-killing maps.

The final battle was way more difficult than I was expecting, on hard (it took me probably 20-30 tries), but it was certainly something different, so I had to figure out what was going on and what to do in the heat of battle. It was mostly the player-seeking bomb launchers that I would forget to pay attention to for a brief moment, and then pay the price for. I certainly don't intend to advocate stifling innovation or anything; no, new styles of boss fight are definitely a good thing. (and I'd never have thought up an entity setup like that in a million years) 

Not dead while the netherworld plasmatic heart keeps beating. 

Quake's not dead

Falacy, deceit, eternal lie!

(snigger) 

..All I can humbly offer is a crappy, boring demo...

http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/demos/ne_tower_nm_100_thesilent.zip

12 mins, skill 3, 157(?) monsters, 100% secrets. 

It was mostly the player-seeking bomb launchers that I would forget to pay attention to for a brief moment, and then pay the price for.

yes, the shooters were kind of a toss up. with the cross, they won't even do any damage at all, unless it's direct hit, and then only like 10-20 damage (when you have the YA, like ~10).

i like the way powerups like that change an entire fight around. i think there could even be something where pents or quads are not overpowered, and maybe even a way to work invisibility in somehow...
i wish we had added the hipnotic wetsuit in. it had the added effect of giving you normal movement speed in water instead of that 60% or whatever with a biosuit.

the silent: not boring, always fun to watch people play your own maps. thanks! 

...for all the beauty&fun!!!! 

sexy as fuk.
firstrun (died at the scorpions), love the sound and the suspense, as well as train models, cogs and other weird shit like breakable stuff. Nice mix of enemies (for the part I did seen), jealous.....

http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/demos/ne_tower.zip 

is that like a rickroll where you make me download my own map? lol 

sry - nope, just a rick-fail where I evidentally uploaded the wrong archive top the demos/ folder on quaketastic. Bugger. There is actually a demo, but its on my home PC, I'll post it later

(blushes) 

http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/demos/rickyne_tower.zip

Willem - Im sorry about this but there's a copy of ne_tower.zip in the demos dir on Quaketastic

Necros - promise its the real demo this time :)
Also its Fitz 0.85, so protocol 666 'n stuff.

(sorry Willem, I know 'uve had probs with .85, heh, dont even know if you'd really want to watch me die anyhoo! :P) 

OK, I removed the map from that dir. No worries, Ricky! 

ricky, that demo made me laugh, thanks man! ^_^ 

I was looking forward to play this one since the very first green teaser screenshot pop-up on your webpage, necros. the map does not dissappoint: the sounds, the cogs, the ladders implementation, the style-change halfway though+the final epic battle (haven't managed to survive there yet)! wow, all great, superB level, thanks 

http://taw.duke4.net/2009/07/quake/moldy-tower/ 

 

 

One cog too few. 

Wow this is just so good, fantastic visual, awesome atmosphere and the way things move around and lock together is breathtaking. Plenty of 'is this really Q1!?!' moments for me. The skill levels were good, I actually completed the map the first time through. Plus I still felt like it was a challenge. Need to play this a couple more times through. :)

This is the sort of map I would love to make with Q3 visuals but it seems necros has done a better job with the Q1/quoth engine. 10/10. 

thanks! :)
i'm glad the map didn't stomp on you. ;) 

I am sure most people think I am some noob quake 1 player here but I do play games to enjoy myself and not be tortured with crazy hard skill levels when I first play a map. If a game has easy/normal skill levels, they should do what they say and not pretend to be hard/nightmare. Necros, your map skills were good and to me that is a big part of what game design is about. Balanced AI encounters depending on correctly worded skill levels. :) 

sorry dude, i wasn't trying to have a go at you.
honestly, it really was bad luck that you chose both tronyn's and then negke's map to start off your venture into custom maps.
you're probably no worse than most of the guys here. i died a lot on both those maps as well. 

negke's maps are really weird-smart hard whereas mine are just really brute-force hard. I'd reccomend (in addition to Necros' The Living End/Elder World Waystation) my 2005 map The Masque of the Red Death, if you get a chance...it's much fairer than my more recent ones. But aside from my maps or my reccomendations there's tons of great stuff in modern q1sp (travail, war spasm, quoth, etc). 

You might want to put that one on the back burner for a bit. It's not exactly a walk in the park. 

I never actually tested easy skill, although some played through on it and said it was reasonable.

Normal and above are pretty terrifying tbh - especially given the play times.

Moldy Tower is indeed a great map.