Func_Msgboard: Tyrutils-ericw V0.15.1

Posted by ericw on 2015/07/14 00:34:45

Hey, I got around to setting up a website for my branch of tyrutils: (complete with lots of screenshots of different settings of AO, sunlight, etc!)
http://ericwa.github.io/tyrutils-ericw
and making an "official" release of it.

Nothing major changed compared with the last snapshot (may 1st), but a couple new things:

* .lux file support from Spike, for deluxemapping
* gamma control with -gamma flag and "_gamma" key
* rename -dirty flag to -dirt for consistency
* fence texture tracing is now opt-in only with the "-fence" flag.
* light should run a bit faster

This doesn't have lit2. Not sure what to do with that, tbh.

If there's a demand for it, I was thinking I could make a tool that upscales all textures in a wad by 2x or 4x, and adds a "-2x"/"-4x" suffix to the names. You could then manually get the higher-res lightmap on certain faces by applying the upscaled texture, and lowering the texture scale to 0.5 or 0.25 in your editor.

The only real disadvantage of this hacky method over lit2 is more face subdivision by qbsp. This isn't great, but it shouldn't be an issue if the hack is used sparingly (and bsp2 can be used if needed for higher face/vert limits.)

Anyway, enjoy, I hope this is pretty bug-free.

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#967 posted by metlslime on 2017/09/19 16:36:22

What's wrong with ericw-tools?

#968 posted by Joel B on 2017/09/19 20:08:05

"func_compiler" does have a certain charm.

Or maybe "qompiler" although perhaps that's too vulnerable to typos?

Trying to think of other terms besides "compile"... "quakebake"?

#969 posted by ericw on 2017/09/19 20:35:06

One I thought of was "arcaneutils".
"ericw-tools" is nice and straightforward though.
"func_compiler" is good, disadvantage is it's hard to say and it would be hard to read without the underscore (e.g. funccompiler).

"arcaneutils"

#970 posted by oh, that person on 2017/09/19 20:39:34

God no...

Just Pick A Simple Grim, Quakey Word And Stick "tools" On The End

#971 posted by anonymous user on 2017/09/19 21:00:54

Eldertools
Darktools
Grimtools
Shubtools
Gloomtools
Murktools

you get the idea

Browntools

#972 posted by anonymous user on 2017/09/19 21:03:18

Definately "Browntools"

#973 posted by dumptruck_ds on 2017/09/19 22:06:33

funcTools functools
funcUtils funcutils
fooTools footools
kungfew kungfew

#974 posted by Qmaster on 2017/09/19 22:22:44

Arcaneutils is ... ich. The eu in the middle alone is distasteful, let alone the confusion with AD. Plus its so long and just not catchy. Func_compiler is cool, but also long.

func_piler maybe
Arctane maybe
Architools
Qtils (q utils)
Lichtools (off the infamous nonexistent Lich Fiend)
Qvlisp

Maybe just Func_tools:
func_bsp.exe
func_light.exe
func_vis.exe

#975 posted by anonymous user on 2017/09/19 22:23:44

The Compiler of Erich Zann

The Tools That Compiled Sarnath

#976 posted by Mugwump on 2017/09/20 04:57:12

I like ClEric and Qompiler (maybe shortened to Qompil?). Putting a Q instead of an initial C is a Quake tradition and it would be a nice nod to it.

I agree with Qmaster that Arcaneutils is meh for the exact same reasons. Oh, and whoever came up with The Compiler of Erich Zann is an evil genius! Reminded me of a Mekong Delta album.

#977 posted by muk on 2017/09/20 05:02:31

I have a batch file called qompiler :P

https://github.com/muk0r/qompiler

its kind of broken right now though.

I Knew It Sounded Familiar!

#978 posted by Mugwump on 2017/09/20 05:11:16

TheLastQuakeToolsYouWillEverWant

#979 posted by brassbite on 2017/09/20 07:30:24

Short: TLQTYWEW

WEW

#980 posted by oh, that person on 2017/09/20 07:41:08

👌

#981 posted by ＰＲＩＴＣＨＡＲＤ on 2017/09/20 14:20:22

Map jam where every map title is a possible toolset name and the best map wins the right to name the tools

Cue "penispiler"

#982 posted by anonymous user on 2017/09/20 14:52:39

Slipgatools

The Lesson To Be Learned

#983 posted by negke on 2017/09/20 18:23:25

Don't ask Func for name/theme/feature suggestions...

Cuntpiler

#984 posted by Mugwump on 2017/09/20 19:22:37

Better End The Suggestion Period

#985 posted by ericw on 2017/09/20 20:02:07

ok - scratch arcaneutils. Thanks for the ideas.
probably "ericw-tools" is the pragmatic choice becuase I've heard people refer to it as that anway.. hm.

Yup

#986 posted by Mugwump on 2017/09/20 23:01:45

You've added so much to TyrUtils that your fork is not really Tyrann's anymore. It deserves your own brand.

Keep Your Name In It

#987 posted by sevin on 2017/09/21 14:01:01

It's casual and easy to remember. Plus reminds everyone who's working on it.

Question

#988 posted by mankrip on 2017/09/24 21:03:33

If a func_wall entity has skip-textured faces that goes deep inside the world's brushes, crossing multiple VIS areas, will said entity be "visible" across all those VIS areas, even though it has no faces to render in there?

Maybe this is more of an engine problem.

#989 posted by ericw on 2017/09/24 22:33:34

I am guessing "yes" they will be visible. skip faces are deleted towards the end of qbsp so they're included in the model mins/maxs - I think.

To optimize for this case I think the engine could build a tighter visible mins/maxs by iterating over all faces/vertices of the model.

#990 posted by ericw on 2017/09/24 22:33:34

#991 posted by Spike on 2017/09/25 01:31:44

the qbsp must(imho) calc model bounds according to the maximum of both rendered geometry as well as related collision structures.

Failure to account for collisions means you'll end up missing initial collisions, resulting in entities getting stuck and unable to leave again (more than just a precision error). This is true (although perhaps rarer) even in vanilla.

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