I personally consider D3D11 to be entry level these days, it's a ~10-year old API. GL versions do lag for some vendors, however. GL3.2 is probably a reasonable minimum.
I find it better to do lightstyle animations on the GPU, and dynamics with extra additive blending passes. I've coded it up in GL1.5 assembly shaders, GL 2..4 GLSL, D3D9 HLSL and D3D11 HLSL for Q1, Q2 and H2 so I'm quite satisfied that the approach is solid.
The difference in lit rendering between MarkV and QuakeSpasm, DirectQ could be the LightNormalize function which does:
lit = lit * (greyscale / max(lit.r, lit.g, lit.b));
so max(lit.r, lit.g, lit.b) needs to be equal to the greyscale value, or the final rendering will be different from engines that don't do this. If the lit files from https://quakewiki.org/wiki/External_Lit_And_Vis_Files
don't have that property, this will be causing the difference you're seeing.
i've just installed Mark_V using the Steam installer and it works great!
i've had one issue where for some reason when i bind mwheelup or down to anything besides next/previous weapon (either through the console or in the options menu) it just doesn't work.
I get no errors, but when I bind it to jump, for example, nothing happens
anyone have any idea what the cause may be?
Flagged the spam but one contained a very nice compliment which i will past here:
I feel like all your ideas are incredible!
I Feel Like The Return Of Baker Is Much Needed.
Is there a way to increase the music volume? The cd music volume doesn't change the external mp3 file music volume.
PS: Love the engine, its the only one I have been able to find that lets me play the game like its meant to look at 320x240 with external music.
Since the resurrection bug returned to Ne_Ruins for some reason, I guess I will test all the addons again which I had reported in the past to see what happened to them. I know that the "view warping" bug at the end of Malice had never been fully addressed, too.
Malice And Ne_Ruins
Ok, my first check with latest DX9 build revealed that Malice and Altar of Storms are still not running flawlessly.
1) In "Showdown!" (d15), the FOV warping issue during the boss fight is still there and occurs when saving and loading after being pulled towards the boss at least once. It can be kinda fixed if you get hit by the same attack again afterwards, but that isn't a satisfying solution, ofc.
2) During the boss fight I had a random crash to console with the message "Host_Error: SOLID_BSP with a non bsp model", but couldn't reproduce it.
3) Statusbar remains active during cutscenes (not so severe)
1) Requires -heapsize 512000 on startup (crash when leaving start map otherwise). This shouldn't be necessary in a modern port IMHO.
2) Winged succubus resurrection crash (incorrect handling of entities with alpha=0) is definitely back, as annoying as ever.
3) "impulse12" crash when switching between Super Shotgun and Quad Super Shotgun with MWHEELDOWN is also definitely back. I see that the game uses two variables for this, sv_gameplayfix_no_impulse12_override (set to "1") and sv_gameplayfix_no_impulse12_exceptions ("ne_ruins"). If you change the first one to 0, the crash does not happen any more, but this is just a workaround and needs to be addressed.
Xmas Jam 2018
"Chapel Perilous" (xmasjam2018_sham) crashes when exiting the level since it expects Start.map (capital S) instead of start.map. This is something that can be fixed by changing the map, but maybe Mark V should be more tolerant with such things, unless there's a good reason for it being the way it is.
Later on, I will take a look at the problems I had reported for Nehahra, Rapture, RRP, Shrak and Soul of Evil again to see if any other fixed problem returned.
WinQuake Version Crashes On Launch
Whenever I launch the WinQuake version, it immediately crashes and the qconsole log doesn't tell me anything important. I've even removed the config files and the engine still crashes. Any idea what's going on?
Good news: No other addon that I had previously tested for Mark V shows any of the bugs that were addressed. Thank God.
Bad news: Malice and Ne_Ruins. See above.
Hardcoded ALT-M Mute
I'd be delighted if there weren't hardcoded binds. This is currently messing up my gaming overlay/recording software binds that I have gotten very used to.
No Music On Mark V Linux?
I tried to load mp3 music on Fitzquake Mark V on Linux but it doesn't seem to load at all. I put them on the music folder and named the tracks appropriately. I also tried to use the external_music command on console but such a command doesn't exist at all. How can I have music on Fitzquake on Linux? Quakespasm has it, why doesn't Fitzquake Mark V?
Should I switch FTEQW or are you coming back to Mark V eventually?
When Baker Says He Is On A Break
Then he is on a break. It's not his first time off. There's still unfinished business before 2.0 and I am sure he'll get back to it.
I'm aware of his time off. I was under the impression he worked on Mark V during the winter months. Fingers crossed.
i've tried the hd textures, they work fine but skies remains the same. how do i enable hd skies?
you mean skyboxes?
no standard skies, in the hd pack linked in this thread all textures work except for skies.
AFAIK MarkV doesn't support replacement of the standard skies.
How is that true? Fourth line down in the original post states:
"* Full external texture support, DP naming convention"!
ummm so yeah... I couldn't get it to load my custom sky1.tga(jpg) replacement. Odd that is.
Skies in Quake are not regular textures.
Big Maps Related Performance
I'm having issues with fps on big maps like 1st and 3rd maps of "Unforgiven". FPS drops to 20 and there are delays in mouse work like i press "fire" button - it fires 2 seconds after and keeps firing when i unpressed the button. Tried to run these maps with default config and there is no change in the situation. Meantime DirectQ 1.9.2 runs these maps flawlesly (97-100 fps). Also checked different graphic setup. No result.
Windows XP Pro 32bit
Intel Core 2 Duo 1.86 GHZ
Nvidia GeForce 250 GTS 1024MB
RAM 3 GB
Big Maps Related Performance #2
Utilized Mark V v1.99 DirectX.
Even bigger problems with fps occur at Rubicon Rumbke Pack. Same mouse delays , fps down to 20-30 in some areas.
External HD Skies
External scrolling sky textures are usually comprised of two images, not one:
sky1_trans.tga (transparent overlay)
sky1_solid.tga (opaque underlay)
There are another two possible suffixes in some engines, but I don't remember the name.
MarkV Direct3D is not the same as DirectQ, and you shouldn't expect the same performance.
To be specific: the reason DirectQ gets good performance is not Direct3D. It's batching, vertex buffers, multitexturing, shaders, etc, and this is all stuff that can be done in OpenGL too, if the engine author is willing to do so.
In the case of MarkV, Baker is not willing to do this. So in order to run in Direct3D, it needs to store out vertex data per frame, then try to mangle unoptimized OpenGL calls into something that works in Direct3D. You shouldn't be surprised if it doesn't always work well.
If you want an engine that has good performance in big maps by using the right kind of code, MarkV is not that engine. Use QuakeSpasm instead.
Speaking of which, any chance QuakeSpasm will ever support Nehahra?
Quakespasm is not in active development ATM. So there's that little issue.
True, but FWIW folks shouldn't read that as "dead project". Updates were still landing in the codebase through the end of 2018. So nothing going at the moment, but Quakespasm development seems to come in spurts.
Dunno if those developers have ever commented on the likelihood of Nehahra support though.
If You Keep Accusing
Poor Baker of inefficient coding, he might never return, man. :P We need him!
Someone said somewhere that Nehahra is too much of an oddball to support properly. Too bad for me, haven't played it yet and Mark V doesn't run well on my system.
Water Brush Bug
In mark_v.exe (not _winquake), if a water brush is not at least overlapped by at least one unit by a non-water brush on one face, it will not render as transparent unless you activate r_novis 1. With developer 1, it claims that the level is not vised. In mark_v_winquake.exe, it does see the vis information and properly renders the water.
Nehahra With Mark V
I've played through Nehahra recently with Mark V and had no personal issues at all, just specify -nehahra in the command line. The fog and pretty much all graphical features work, the cutscenes do not mess up the HUD afterwards unlike the original executable, the custom music will not play however, maybe it doesn't support xm files but the cool outro music on epilogue texts between chapters does play.
There's some funky things Nehahra does that technically work, but that it really shouldn't do. In other words, the kind of thing that normally comes back to bite you in the ass at some later date.
Two of the big ones will be that it uses a modified protocol but doesn't change the protocol version number, and that it relies on sending stuffcmd every frame for certain things rather than the built-in messaging or reading options from worldspawn.
If you use winquake with vid_stretch 1 or 2, water in dopa has a bunch of lines through it.
To correct this you can set r_wateralpha to 1.
Figured I'd mention this in case it hasn't already been brought up.
is normal behaviour on those maps which support it (the original game doesn't as standard)
Ahh I see. Shouldn't winquake default this cvar to 1 automatically though since it doesn't support transparency?
The lines you are seeing are
the transparency. It's exactly the same transparency method used in old games such as Sonic 1 for the Sega Genesis
However, I agree that it doesn't look good in MarkV. A stippled pattern would look better, as implemented in old versions of Makaqu.
Shouldn't winquake default this cvar to 1 automatically though since it doesn't support transparency?
Stock WinQuake doesn't support translucency, but several engine mods have added it, of which MarkV is one.