Func_Msgboard: Idea: Quake 2 SP Jam

Posted by Pelinal on 2018/07/02 23:00:36

hi guys, its my 1st time here, though i've bee lurking here for maps since ever.

Well, its pretty much this, there's a few people on /vr/, QC discord and such talking about this lately.

Over the years we saw both quake engines evolving and quakespasm map jams proving to be insane over the time, but what about Quake 2? the game itself saw its share, but nothing compared to what Q1 got, in fact the few good and forgotten examples of this are the Mission packs and the Unofficial Trio that is Zaero, Juggernaut and Unseen.

the idea is simple, do a simple map jam using any theme for Q2(mines, space stations and such), you're free to use any of the Mission packs or Q2(even the unofficial trio), everyone here rocks at Q1mapmaking, and seeing this knowledge being use in Q2 would be sick, the source port is of your choosing, Yamagi, kmquake2 and Quake2xp are pretty much the best ones atm and all 3 are compatible with each other.

what you guys think?, i love Q1 and i still play it til nowadays, but Q2 needs some love too!

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Good Idea

#15 posted by lpowell on 2018/07/04 05:22:43

If this comes out it'll be the first custom Q2SP I ever play.

#16 posted by Pelinal on 2018/07/04 05:25:59

I think S.H.U.M.P would be better than Q2UMP

Stroggy Hub Upstart Mapping Project

Unoficial Trio

#17 posted by Pelinal on 2018/07/04 05:31:23

i forgot to say that
Unofficial Trio of Mission packs is

-Zaero(Made by Team Evolve)
-Juggernaut(the full version is easy to find nowadays and it works flawlessly on modern ports)
-Unseen(though this one can be fully ignored since its a bad compilation of mods and even assets used illegally, also its incomplete)

I Worked On Zaero

#18 posted by dumptruck_ds on 2018/07/04 05:50:26

I did the sound design for the whole MP and tons of testing for the LDs. :)

@Pelinal

#19 posted by Tribal on 2018/07/04 06:10:32

I think the best unofficial mission pack that i played back in the day was Oblivion.
It came with the CDGAMER magazine, with his own music (12 tracks), 26 huge maps and 7 awesome new enemies... but it didn't have a proper end level :P

I just searched it on google and i found out that the game now has a real ending \o/

You can download it here:
http://www.legendsworld.net/shooter/game/6642

#20 posted by metlslime on 2018/07/04 18:52:52

there is also the unofficial unofficial pack "Oblivion"

#21 posted by metlslime on 2018/07/04 18:54:50

oh shit, Tribal already said Oblivion :)

#22 posted by muk on 2018/07/05 07:18:41

+1 for going at this with erics tools provided they become available.

wouldnt mind poking at a different bestiary.

are there Q2 releases that include map sources?

#23 posted by metlslime on 2018/07/05 07:38:25

All my Q2DM maps have sources released

#24 posted by Tribal on 2018/07/05 08:34:58

ok, i know nothing about lighting, but i can't see anything wrong about it in these Q2XP screenshots...

https://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/21/20560/q2xp0.jpg
https://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/21/20560/s11.jpg
https://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/21/20560/s4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7He1shD.jpg

and Q2XP has a built-in light editor:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2-xp/tutorials/in-game-light-editor

#24

#25 posted by Kinn on 2018/07/05 11:27:10

Larks-a-lummy guvna! That looks like one of those perishin' realtime lighting engines and no mistake. Stone the crows, you ain't not never won't catch me with one of those blinkin' things, not 'arf!

#26 posted by Baker on 2018/07/05 13:12:53

Barnes -- the author of Q2XP -- hangs around InsideQC occasionally. Great guy. And smart as hell.

@Tribal

#27 posted by Pelinal on 2018/07/05 16:21:32

quake 2 Xp is great, even if the Xpacs has no texture pack support at most, the results are still impressive, it feels like the X360 quake 2 port that came with Q4 years ago.

https://imgur.com/a/kHCnfc3

Though Yamagi is also impressive too since you can deactivate the texture filtering for monsters while keeping the OGL goodies, also its smooth.

Stop

#28 posted by texture pig on 2018/07/05 17:43:10

Why can't you plebs just be happy with vanilla quake? It's as bad as dressing an old man up in high heels and a mini skirt. Have some respect!

#29 posted by Pelinal on 2018/07/05 21:50:47

if someone here wants speak about this update on tasty forums, feel free to do it, they would love this idea.

in fac,t they have 2 good SP Units uploaded there.

Slight Mechanical Deconstruction
http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?topic=21574.0

Citadel 3.0
http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?topic=22763.0

Quake2xp 1.26.8 Final Release

#31 posted by Pelinal on 2018/07/08 07:06:54

quake2XP received its "last" update for now

https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2-xp/downloads/quake2xp-1268-final-release

Thanks For The Hint

#32 posted by Esrael on 2018/07/08 11:21:59

I just tried it and it looks really nice. It also tweaked the nightmare difficulty to have respawning monsters like in Doom. That's interesting. At first I wasn't sure if I liked it, but it brought a twist to the gameplay that I want to try out, especially since Quake II can get kind of easy once you get all the high-tier equipment. That addition will probably keep me constantly on the move.

And of course, there's always Yamagi Quake if you want a vanilla nightmare difficulty mode.

@Esrael

#33 posted by Pelinal on 2018/07/09 00:15:13

Yeah im going to think twice about doing Ground Zero on Nightmare.

in fact, this would be kinda interesting for a few maps, like strogg space stations with teleport hubs.

also it appears that Turic's Kmq2 weapons works on yamagi, but the texture is fubar because its another format

Paul Steed's Commentaries About Quake 2 Models

#34 posted by anonymous user on 2018/07/12 03:57:11

i'll leave this here if someone is interested when the time comes for the Q2 Mapping stuff

paul made this post back when he was doing Q3A
http://www.loonygames.com/content/1.6/totb/index3.php

#35 posted by Tribal on 2018/07/12 23:10:56

About Q2XP, i think the monster respawn in Nightmare difficulty can be disabled with the console command: g_monsterRespawn 0

it worked in the last version of the engine, so maybe it will work with this new version ;)

#36 posted by Tribal on 2018/07/14 18:23:21

Found this info on twitter:

Yamagi Quake II 7.21 has been released today!
Some notable changes:
* It can now load .ogg music tracks in the naming scheme GOG uses
* Weapons are rendered with their own FOV (r_gunfov)
* Some of the glitches in the software renderer have been fixed

https://www.yamagi.org/quake2/

Q2PRO

#37 posted by Kiiro Karnage on 2018/07/17 01:30:03

Also you can download updated builds of Q2PRO from here...

http://skuller.net/q2pro/nightly/

Sonic Mayhem Unit Updated

#38 posted by Pelinal on 2018/07/19 01:58:57

@Kiiro Karnage, ah yes i forgot that too

also from QC discord
https://mobile.twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/981985706779271169

The Main Problem With A Custom Q2 Engines

#39 posted by spy on 2018/07/20 13:06:49

every custom engine uses its own *.dll data
why?

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