 Well
#5 posted by ijed on 2011/03/17 02:25:13
The post was made in 2007. Who knows if they'd take offense at an archaic version of their Hammer editor under a different name being leaked.
Unless their legal department is really bored and overpaid I doubt its a problem.
WC 1.6a was freeware, you had to buy 1.6, this version - but that was maybe ten years ago.
 Hm
#6 posted by ijed on 2011/03/17 02:25:44
More than 10 years, but I'm too lazy to check.
 What's The Difference
#7 posted by jt_ on 2011/03/17 02:36:39
Between 1.6 and the version distributed with QuakeAdaptor, in terms of quake mapping?
 Prefabs And Bugfixes
#8 posted by ijed on 2011/03/17 03:05:16
The prefab library allows you to save groups of objects seperately to reuse them.
In general 1.6 has much fewer bugs, like wiping the key fields of an entity.
It also doesn't need converted textures, it just loads the wad directly.
Downside is, the texture lock is only semi-functional - flipping and rotating don't really work.
#9 posted by mh on 2011/03/17 03:13:47
Native support for Quake without any hackery is a good enough reason too.
 What Trac?
#10 posted by Spirit on 2011/03/17 08:29:49
#11 posted by gb on 2011/03/17 12:54:09
Oh shit.
#12 posted by Trinca on 2011/03/17 13:58:49
one of these days I have to try this out...
 Jt_
#13 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/17 17:27:05
The Quakeadapter version has enanced 3D acceleration compared to 1.6 / a / b
It also has a fully functional texture lock feature. In 1.6, as mentioned above, the texture lock would not work on brushes rotated to strange angles (i.e. anything which isn't devisable by 90)
The downside is that it requires all Quake 1 .wads to be converted to hlwads.
 In That Case
#14 posted by jt_ on 2011/03/17 18:09:21
I'll probably just keep using the version from quakeadaptor then. Converting wads takes maybe 30 seconds, so it's not really a problem.
 Fair Enough
#15 posted by ijed on 2011/03/17 18:20:31
Although in general 3.3 has more micro-bugs.
#16 posted by spy on 2011/03/17 18:52:11
one of these days I have to try this out...
u should try hammer instead
 Ijed
#17 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/17 20:55:59
Like what? (apart from not working on a bunch of people's GPU)
 Little Things
#18 posted by ijed on 2011/03/17 22:10:25
I've noticed, though mostly with the entities management of fields getting wiped and it being difficult to set angles on stuff.
I'll miss the entity report feature though, and proper texture lock, so might hold off on a switch until later.
#19 posted by Qmaster on 2011/03/17 23:43:50
I've been using the full version of 1.6 for like 5 years, this is old news to me(or is that olds?). But, WC 1.6's 3d viewport doesn't render correctly with my new graphics card (gets all fuzzy) unless I resize it to a perfect square, so I just use the 3.3 version with all the wad converts. I much prefer 3.3 because of the TL rotation as said above, for the viewport fly mode with "z", and for the ability to select objects in the 3d viewport (there's a gliche with this in 1.6 that required turning off hardware acceleration, hince the viewport getting all fuzzy)
 Funny You Should Say That..
#20 posted by starmyke on 2011/03/18 05:41:26
cause texture lock has never worked for me.. no matter what version I use.. mah
anyway I'll stick with 3.3+qadapter
#21 posted by jt_ on 2011/03/18 07:10:19
I think worldcraft 1.6 might be on a halflife disc i bought not to long ago. It advertised having some version of worldcraft on it.
 I Want To Get Into Mapping
Should I use this or Radiant?
 I Found WC Quite Easy To Pick Up
#23 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/18 14:21:23
But others say that they prefer Radiant. I recommend trying the Quakeadapter on your rig, its dead easy to set up!
 I'd Suggest
#24 posted by ijed on 2011/03/18 14:25:12
BSPeditor - since its built for Quake and maintained.
 As To Worldcraft
#25 posted by ijed on 2011/03/18 14:26:48
All versions are glitchy. But its a very well built editor, level designers have been complaining at programmers for an intensive period in order to have the level of user-friendliness it provides.
Fucking hell. I'm still drunk.
 Worldcraft 3.5
#26 posted by RickyT33 on 2011/03/18 22:27:53
I dont know if I mentioned this before but you can drop this .exe file straight into a Quaked Worldcraft 3.3 DIR. It's basically Hammer 3.5.
You can load pointfiles into the editor and 3.5 will let you see the line in the 3d viewport. That was not possible in 3.3. I dont know what the other differences are, but I'm sure it must be better in some way.
http://games.softpedia.com/get/Tools/Valve-Hammer-Editor.shtml
 Will Give It A Try
#27 posted by ijed on 2011/03/19 01:17:53
Thanks - maybe some of the entity bugs are fixed.
 I Already Tried It
#28 posted by ijed on 2011/03/19 01:28:01
But forgot. Doesn't work for me since it complains that the textures aren't Wad3 format.
 Half Life Edition
#29 posted by Drew on 2011/03/19 03:38:57
was 2.0 I think
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