In all ways. Negke IS Quake mapping. The boss combat was a bit too knacky though. 

because the map has to restart in order to change gameplay modes, you have to use negke's demo recording trick to record in carnage mode.

1. Start the map and jump to get to the settings room.

2. Select Carnage and wait for the map to restart.

3. Once the map is loaded, quicksave.

4. type 'disconnect' in the console.

5. type 'record demoname' (note i didn't specify a map to load)

6. it should say "recording" in the console. now, simply hit your quickload button.

you should be playing your quicksaved carnage mode game and recording a demo. don't forget to type 'stop' when you're done! 

Wow, those screenies look great! Downloading now... 

spy: Nice one. Apparently it didn't pose any problems to you - you could even afford being wasteful with the medkits. I'm glad to see you did just as I intended and killed the zombies in the lower area with voreballs. Good dealing with the tarbabies, too. What's that cheater mod you were using, though - that made all powerups glow brightly? Sorry for the portcullis thing; I put a safety push there for that kind of situation, but you seem to have found a blind spot.


Btw. If you played the map on Normal, I recommend giving it another run on Hard - the end battle is kind of fun.
Also, what I meant above is, try the carnage mode on Nightmare. And what necros said. 

thanks for the map!

What's that cheater mod you were using, though - that made all powerups glow brightly? my own custom progs.dat with glowing powerups like in qw(with various id bugs fixed) :ph34r:

also, the demo_sg was recorded with skill 3(nightmare)

i'll try to record the carnage skill3 demo

ps. my play settings: fov 125 and sv_maxspeed 400 :ph34r: 

Cool map as usual from you
Here are my demos

1. normal skill - couldn't kill the boss
2. carnage - died somewhere in the middle but was fun

http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/demos/mappi_ankhdemos.zip 

Another Negke classic! The architecture, texturing, and gameplay were excellent! I played on Normal for 25 minutes and found 5/6 secrets.

BTW, Chthon in chains reminded me of Donkey Kong for some reason ;)

I will try to beat Hard skill and Carnage mode next.

Great job!!! 

Another great map from negke. Plenty of traps and excellent use progs hacks (which negke seems to be the master of) with some really good brushwork and details, along with balanced, yet tough gameplay, and finally ending in quite an epic battle. Everything here is two thumbs up.

My only quarrel would be the lighting. In my opinion, the lighting looks a bit too bland and doesn't feel very moody. But it certainly didn't stop me from enjoying the map.

You have no reason not to play this right now.

My first run demo, protocol 15, hard skill: http://qrf.mine.nu/~orl/misc/orl_mappi.zip 

I keep getting killed at Chthon, i run about and hit the buttons but all I hear is lazer sounds, is there a specific way to hit the buttons? Or do I just have to try harder and doge more [my pent keeps wearing out because last time i fell in with him and had to use his attack to escape] 

I recorded first run... only to find it'd been nulled by game restart. Anyway... map seems cool. Running short most of the way, did a miracle shot with my last GL to take out scrag + two enforcers. Died trying to gain the little square over lava near silver key. 

And died there again. Great boss ;>.. got 'im first go with invinc on skill 1.
Very id1 sort of map.. just a bit better. 

http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/demos/spy3_carnage.rar


i believe sg mode is much better though 

Not that hard really. Each button lowers one half of the device; when both parts are in place, a teleporter sphere appears which you have to jump into. If you're too slow, it goes away and you have to press the buttons again.

I realize I should have made them stay indefinitely on Easy. Oh well. 

Simply brilliant !!! I think that is one of the best map I played since a long time. Nothing more to say...
I am just wondering how you 've been able to do several things, like the end area.... no spoiler... 

...for releasing a map the very day I'm supposed to leave for holiday, with no time at all for playing! Tronyn did this during winter holidays, and now my fave mapper ever. Talk about lousy timing... ;)

Well, we'll see if I can wrestle my girl into leaving a coupla hours later... This will sure lead to a bloody fight. I'll try to record a demo. Usually she ownz me in a matter of seconds, though.. ;) 

I played it yesterday on easy (I don't like shooting and jumping on new maps, I rather look at architecure). Nice map, but I couldn't find any secret :( And I like searching them. Oh well, I'm going to try again :) 

I feel for you. At least you'll have something to look forward to when you return. 

#24 was me. Thanks for the feelings, Neg. ;) 

Awesome, as usual. Thanks, Negke.

A demo at the end of August, maybe. 

wasn't that complicated
http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/demos/carn02.zip 

awesome map, crazy brushwork.

playing through this several times, i really felt it could have used some of thoes dragon/fire glass window features that were used plenty in ep4, or some other textures thrown into the mix.

anyway thanks for keeping quake alive man. 

Thanks. Too bad some of them don't play properly due to restarting. And even though Ankh's and Trinca's demos were protocol 15, I couldn't fix them the regular way with convdem for some reason. Maybe because you played with QDQ progs? Or I simply forgot how the trick works.

So carnage mode on skill 3 is too easy? Ok, then I propse a competition - who can beat it the fastest and/or with most kills. ;)

Glad to see people enjoyed the map. 

I have noticed yesterday that the demo is broken.
I have managed to salvage the biggest part of it by cutting out the first 95s using demtool (sda tool).
Here it is:
http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/demos/CARN02ch.zip

recorded with qdq as you have guessed. 

You always make such fun stuff Neg!ke. Loved the Chthon in shackles. I got incredibly lost on my first play (demo below) but as they say, "the myth that you can make a map where Mandel doesn't get lost: busted". In fact I never found the silver key and had to grenade jump to make progress as you will see.

Solid level, and the fact that it comes with so much custom stuff without requiring a custom progs makes it a winner.

Included is also an easy 100% demo, I can't believe I found all the secrets, but I think I did.

http://mandelmassa.net/temp/mappi_mandel.dz 

cool map, except i found the secret above the sk and then jumped down to get the sk, thus skipping past 1/3 of the map and not realising it till i'd finished and wondered why there were so many monsters still left.

the way to kill chthon was great; finding the pentagon definitely helped there. without that i probably would have died. great level design too! it was slightly too dark on my monitor, but i just had to reinstall quake so it's probably just because I need to tweak the lighting settings again.

i got all dizzy after playing it and my eyes went funny. wtf is up with that lol