i myself prefer the hl style ladders where if you walk 'towards' the ladder, you move up (and move down if you back 'away') and when you jump, you fly off in the direction you're facing. they're also a lot faster.

the quoth ladders are at the mercy of the mapper.
you have to set an angle key, and contrary to docs, the angle key has nothing to do with what angle you have to face to use the ladder, but instead, it refers to the angle you are thrown off when you jump.

it's unfortunate but i noticed nearly no one jumps off the ladders in this map, even though they are set up for it. i can only assume it's because they don't know. :( 

You can jump off ladders??!!?? 

T_T 

You can jump off ladders??!!??

Isn't that the ONLY way to get off the ladders? 

jumping off was the only way, don't know which ladders you guys wee using :/ 

One of Gb's Qouth testmaps with multiple ladders, jumping between them was the only way to finish the level. 

Thanks for explaining. Pretty clever. 

Oh, my... 

I thought this map was pretty awesome. I mean that literally too, my jaw dropped several times while playing, and I had to remind myself I was playing a 12 year old game. I was drawn into the ambiance created through architecture and map entities. My disbelief was well suspended, and I really felt like I was in a creaky moldy clock tower, crawling with vorelings. Using new sounds for the lifts was a pretty simple change, but it was very effective in making the map seem different. Also, the rotating bits are some of the best utilized I've seen in any quake map I can remember, so kudos for that.

The gameplay in the first half actually felt like a medieval version of xplore by speedy - tight gameplay with well placed monsters where every shot counts. A welcome change from the mindless horde-killing maps.

The final battle was way more difficult than I was expecting, on hard (it took me probably 20-30 tries), but it was certainly something different, so I had to figure out what was going on and what to do in the heat of battle. It was mostly the player-seeking bomb launchers that I would forget to pay attention to for a brief moment, and then pay the price for. I certainly don't intend to advocate stifling innovation or anything; no, new styles of boss fight are definitely a good thing. (and I'd never have thought up an entity setup like that in a million years) 

Not dead while the netherworld plasmatic heart keeps beating. 

Quake's not dead

Falacy, deceit, eternal lie!

(snigger) 

..All I can humbly offer is a crappy, boring demo...

http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/demos/ne_tower_nm_100_thesilent.zip

12 mins, skill 3, 157(?) monsters, 100% secrets. 

It was mostly the player-seeking bomb launchers that I would forget to pay attention to for a brief moment, and then pay the price for.

yes, the shooters were kind of a toss up. with the cross, they won't even do any damage at all, unless it's direct hit, and then only like 10-20 damage (when you have the YA, like ~10).

i like the way powerups like that change an entire fight around. i think there could even be something where pents or quads are not overpowered, and maybe even a way to work invisibility in somehow...
i wish we had added the hipnotic wetsuit in. it had the added effect of giving you normal movement speed in water instead of that 60% or whatever with a biosuit.

the silent: not boring, always fun to watch people play your own maps. thanks! 

...for all the beauty&fun!!!! 

sexy as fuk.
firstrun (died at the scorpions), love the sound and the suspense, as well as train models, cogs and other weird shit like breakable stuff. Nice mix of enemies (for the part I did seen), jealous.....

http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/demos/ne_tower.zip 

is that like a rickroll where you make me download my own map? lol 

sry - nope, just a rick-fail where I evidentally uploaded the wrong archive top the demos/ folder on quaketastic. Bugger. There is actually a demo, but its on my home PC, I'll post it later

(blushes) 

http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/demos/rickyne_tower.zip

Willem - Im sorry about this but there's a copy of ne_tower.zip in the demos dir on Quaketastic

Necros - promise its the real demo this time :)
Also its Fitz 0.85, so protocol 666 'n stuff.

(sorry Willem, I know 'uve had probs with .85, heh, dont even know if you'd really want to watch me die anyhoo! :P) 

OK, I removed the map from that dir. No worries, Ricky! 

ricky, that demo made me laugh, thanks man! ^_^ 

I was looking forward to play this one since the very first green teaser screenshot pop-up on your webpage, necros. the map does not dissappoint: the sounds, the cogs, the ladders implementation, the style-change halfway though+the final epic battle (haven't managed to survive there yet)! wow, all great, superB level, thanks 

http://taw.duke4.net/2009/07/quake/moldy-tower/ 

 

 

One cog too few.