#28199 posted by Baker on 2016/09/30 00:32:55
Mugwump ... Steam forums are the clueless helping the clueless and never being able to solve anything because it's just bad advice upon more bad advice.
Please don't ruin this place by destroying the technical threads by just throwing out some random offtopic guess.
1) It doesn't help the guy asking
2) It doesn't help the thread be useful as reference
3) It really isn't respectful to the great mappers and modders that sought to make this place as a home for the mappers.
I think a number of people here like you, but don't hurt the site by hurting the quality of the reference threads with random crap shoot answers.
Baker
#28200 posted by Mugwump on 2016/09/30 02:18:28
I guess you're talking about my reply from yesterday regarding particles in the Spiked QS thread. I'm well aware of my very limited knowledge but I still wanted to help if I could. I understand what you're saying though. In the future, when I have only guesses to provide instead of the answer, I'll refrain from doing that and let the big boys do the troubleshooting.
Thanks anyway for explaining things calmly instead of bashing me like some others would probably have.
Textures From Spiral Graphics
#28201 posted by primal (nli) on 2016/09/30 16:01:32
http://spiralgraphics.biz/packs/browse.htm
This is a collection of free seamless textures. Rick used some of them in a map of his, and his message from 2014 is the only time this collection is mentioned on the forums before (at least as far as Google knows).
Maybe you'll find something you can use. Converting to Quake tex sizes and palette might be difficult, as usual. They aren't restrictive about letting you use them.
http://spiralgraphics.biz/packs/usage_rights.htm
Quick Poll - Mod Choices Face-Off
#28202 posted by Qmaster on 2016/09/30 16:13:13
1. Do you prefer Quoth gaunt lightning or AD gaunt plasma?
2. Do you prefer AD Death Guard or Quoth Death Guard?
3. Do you prefer Rogue plasmagun, Quoth plasmagun, AD plasmagun, or Zerstorer chain lightning gun?
Other answers are of course welcome.
#28203 posted by Mugwump on 2016/09/30 16:41:37
1) AD. I feel like the lightning attack should remain the signature shambler attack. Also, Quoth Night Gaunts suck big time at aiming it.
2) Not sure.
3) AD, mostly for its look that calls back to the original Doom. Chain lightning is not really in the same league, with its tactical use being so different. Also it's a little OP.
1. Plasma Gaunt.
2. I really don't think those two are comparable at all.
3. Quoth Plasma Gun.
Good Questions.
#28205 posted by Shambler on 2016/09/30 17:26:22
1. Gaaaaay.
2. Bent as fuck.
3. Your mom.
#28206 posted by mindbound on 2016/09/30 18:37:34
AD on all counts.
None
#28207 posted by kaffikopp on 2016/09/30 19:25:02
id1 fo lyfe
#28208 posted by metlslime on 2016/09/30 19:49:43
https://github.com/mxgmn/WaveFunctionCollapse
I wonder if this could be used to create quake textures... say, put in a 64x64 grass or rock texture and see if it can produce a usable one that is 128 or 256 with less obvious repetition.
Here's Another One
#28209 posted by Kinn on 2016/09/30 19:58:11
Filter Forge
https://www.filterforge.com/
I titted around with this a few years ago and made some pretty great stuff. Definately worth looking at if you want to use algorithms to make textures.
Well, That's Nifty
#28210 posted by killpixel on 2016/09/30 19:59:43
#28211 posted by Rick on 2016/09/30 20:21:43
I made a series of brick textures that all started from one of the Spiral Graphics images. You can see many of them in the Wish13_ screenshots at Quaketastic
#28208
#28212 posted by mankrip on 2016/09/30 22:42:05
Here's the answer.
How well does it work on higher resolution assets like grass?
In short, badly. For high res inputs you want to use not this algorithm but something like texture synthesis.
(copying the comment from HN):
"Efros' and Leung's method doesn't satisfy the (C1) condition. The closest previous work is Paul Merrel's model synthesis.
WFC and texture synthesis serve similar purposes: they produce images similar to the input image. However, the definition of what is "similar" is different in each case. If you have a high def input with noise (like realistic rocks and clouds) then you really want to to use texture synthesis methods. If you have an indexed image with few colors and you want to capture... something like the inner rules of that image and long range correlations (if you have an output of a cellular automata, for example, or a dungeon), then you want to use WFC-like methods."
Substance Designer Is My Weapon Of Choice
#28213 posted by khreathor on 2016/10/01 05:33:26
In Substance Designer you can create nice procedural tiled textures. Here are some old tests:
Procedural bricks
Downgrade preview - Hi-res to 64x64
I'm using it currently for my Snowy WAD. Modifying original textures to be covered in a snow:
Example set
Same set but as a gradient
Nodes:
All nodes view
One texture section
Hell Yeah
#28214 posted by killpixel on 2016/10/01 05:41:17
that's rad. That snowification seems to work pretty well.
Ultimately, I'd prefer having the talent/discipline to work pixel by pixel. But I don't have that, so alternative methods like this are pretty sweet.
Substance Abuser Is My Designation Of Choice
#28215 posted by Mugwump on 2016/10/01 05:49:23
Sorry... couldn't resist the wordplay. Me likey the snowy texies!
Kingpin
#28216 posted by Rick on 2016/10/01 06:19:58
Did anybody here ever actually play Kingpin? It gets mixed reviews generally, but the GOG Back to School sale has it for $3.99
I was just debating whether to get it.
Lot's of games at good prices there. It ends sometime Sunday.
#28217 posted by khreathor on 2016/10/01 06:41:20
Imo it's a good game. Has good atmosphere and few interesting mechanics like followers, who You can hire and they will fight by your side. Sometimes gameplay is getting too hard, but I have good memories in overall.
So... Go get it!
...and if you like cool mechanics get Messiah too.
#28218 posted by Mugwump on 2016/10/01 11:07:18
Haven't played it since then but I have fond memories of this game.
Messiah looked interesting too but I never was able to run it on any of my systems.
Kingpin
#28219 posted by nitin on 2016/10/01 13:34:38
is a very nice game.
Hey
#28220 posted by Qmaster on 2016/10/01 14:55:05
Should we create a Netradiant thread with the links provided by ww in the mapping help thread?
#28221 posted by Kinn on 2016/10/01 16:34:59
Should we create a Netradiant thread
Yes please. Now that someone has decided to carry on developing that editor it would be nice to centralise the posts, and hopefully bring it to the developer's attention. One real obvious feature it could do with is support for valve 220 texturing.
Ok Then
#28222 posted by Qmaster on 2016/10/01 18:38:42
I created a thread for NetRadiant...mind you I'm not terribly experienced with it so others please chime in with your input over there.
I Just Played...
#28223 posted by Mike Woodham on 2016/10/02 10:30:13
... the Orl Maps from 2006.
Some good stuff and some err... not so good (some decidedly dodgy brushwork in a couple of places). Played on Normal and got thrashed, played on Easy and did a little better. But overall, a good romp with some difficult set pieces and some c-r-a-z-y textures.
To be honest, I simply didn't understand the Pie Room. I managed to eat them all but still got eaten myself.
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