what about webmail? it has the same features and even more! maybe it's not that interactive but wtf? 

nt 

Try http://www.google.com/search?hl=fi&q=irc+web+client&spell=1 

Tulokset 1 - 10 noin 1 790 000 osuman joukosta haulle irc web client. (0,30 sekuntia) 

See what gems you find hanging at other forums?

http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/projects/doom3/doomlog/doom3log_1.html 

there was a web based icq client too. I definitely used it at uni at least once. 

pretty stunning bit of work. Can't wait to see it finished. 

STM is clearly not for you because you seem to have everything you need, but for some people (like me) STM fills the need - its web-based, go anywhere, secure, anonymous and completely spam free (and always will be spam free).

IRC, email (even gmail :]), ICQ, MSN and many others (like Jabber) all IMHO have issues, are not secure, require something other than a browser or a 'real' login or something else like banner ads etc. STM is non of these and 100% go anywhere.

So, enjoy the secret police monitoring your IRC chat, gmail giving you content based ads, MSN reading your chat logs and ICQ 'look at my pictures' request :] 

Althought I keep hearing that GMail has these content-based ads, for some obscure reason I am yet to see _ANY_ ads when I login and use GMail and I've been using the system for quite some time now. I could be the only one though, I dunno.

As what comes to IRC, if you want to be paranoid, you can always use DCC Chat which establishes a direct connection between the users, bypassing the IRC servers and thus monitoring software which could be possibly setup on the IRC server. You could argue that you can still sniff a DCC Chat session, but then again, your ISP can sniff EVERYTHING, including STM. 

I take it back, I see you are using SSL. 

Jago, you have not even tried STM (not that you have to). However for someone that has a lot to say, you have no experience with the product.

The fact that you 'can' set up a DCC chat in IRC means it is not the default setting. Besides that, who is to say that your ISP or any ISP between you and the person you are chatting with, is not mointoring your so-called direct coonection? Do you really think DCC is secure?

With STM, its secure from the start with nothing for the user to worry about other than adding contacts.

Anyway, enough chat Jago, either user it or don't, I really don't care. Feedback however is more than welcome :] 

I got myself an account to see what all the fuss is about right before I retracted my comment about encryption. 

I was just formulating a sarcastic comment along the lines of "my days of getting a boner for custom computer cases are over", and then I skipped to page 17 and thought, "hmmm, damn, okay... I'm impressed". :) 

Please tell me some of you are working on quality hl2dm maps. We're dieing here:
http://s94249274.onlinehome.us/hlcrap1.jpg
http://s94249274.onlinehome.us/hlcrap2.jpg 

I got myself an account to see what all the fuss is about right before I retracted my comment about encryption. Speaking of security and such, why should I be trusting YOU and whoever runs the site to not log every message sent/received and read them? 

Jago, you are almost right, however the data is encoded in mysql to prevent me (or anyone else) from reading your message. I could write something to make it possible to read stuff, however, the fact that I have encoded the message storage, to prevent myself of accidently reading a message, I don't see the point.

The messages are linked to an STM id, not a name. This means I would first have to work out whos belongs to which id before I could start to read 'your' messages.

I run the server, and the ISP does NOT have a password or access to it other than the box it self. This means the ISP could get the hard drive and mount it on another FreeBSD server, but can you see this happening over a few messsages sent by mappers?

The messages are sent over SSL, so there is no (known) way to read them from a 'man in the middle' attack.

But yes, you are right, why should you be trusting me? You can't!

If you want to move this discussion off-line, thats cool with me (I'll not continue here) - here is my STM id:
9149928a3cd5765a9aaafcb47f59f489:stm.lvlworld.com

Maybe we can come up a grand soultion to the age old problem of 'How can I trust you'. 

Those ARE our maps. :P 

Awesome work! can't wait to try it! 

with a little lighting and some crates that pink/black checkerboard atrocity will be the next czg07 

Chronicles of Riddick & Doom 3
http://www.phait-accompli.com/crap/rid-d3.jpg 

...awesome shots, are you releasing them for beta-testing yet?


Phait:

Yeah, we know, personally I prefer D3's look but will still give Riddick a blast. 

 

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=1&u=/nm/20041215/od_nm/odd_japan_pillow_dc 

Yeah, you guys WISH i was mapping for hl2 ;)
those are from some awful custom map hld2dm server that I reluctantly play sometimes because of ridiculously low pings. the collective 'we' i referred to is hldm2 players.



smartasses. 

I demand (well, okay, politely beg) for an update on SM82!