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Thought 3 - So Why Don`t You Lot Map For More Recent Games Then??
(Apart from Vondur at least he mapped for RTCW).

Sooooo, getting two vibes here....firstly a lot of you guys play recent games (by recent I guess I mean since Q3A/UT, yup I`m measuring game epochs by when Id games are released hmmm), and secondly although some people think mapping for more recent games is as problematic as I suggest, some of you don`t. Thus, why doesn`t anyone here map for anything more recent than Q3A/UT?

A few ideas:

A lot of you do but you map in a professional basis for a proper company (usually making console games it seems heh).

Or you play recent games but you`re not inspired to map for them as you have more ideas and more creative freedom in older games.

Or a lot of the recent games you player are mappable/editable.

Or my issue about the increased purposeless of mapping is quite pertinent after all.

Or....???
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I'll Use The S. Sam Icon Since I Make A Brief Reference To The Game 
EA killed Rogue and the tools for Alice were never released so I can't map for that.

I seriously wanted to make a map or set of maps for Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project, but that got lost somewhere, and I have so many maps I want to make for Quake that I figure I'll just stay where I am.

I have no idea if The Thing was mappable or not, but UGH! Who would want to map for that?!

Serious Sam 1/2 were fun, but I don't think I would have found them fun enough to map for.

NOLF was cool, but I prefer to map for sci fi or fantasy settings instead, even though the gameplay itself isn't so realistic.

Black & White wasn't mappable, but considering that I got bored of it and never finished it, that's a moot point.

Although I haven't played the full version of Enclave yet (blaragh just two weeks until finals are over) I would map for it. However, there is some question as to whether the tools will actually be released. (/me stares at wrath.)

I think that covers just about all the games I have that were released post Q3. 
Actually 
Black & White was mappable, wasn't it?

/me = silly 
Black & White 
was it mappable? maybe.

did the voices and creature AI like to quit on me every 15 minutes? yes. 
Rpg 
"(/me stares at wrath.)"

keep staring, I cannot see it anyway. what with the sunglare of my porshe and all.

seriously, I dont even have a car - I just dont give a fuck.

still, there is some pressure from the community, as it were, to release the tools - but we have more pressing matters at hand right now. as I said - when I know something, you lot will be the first I will tell. Or my mom, its either or... 
I Think... 
...alot of people are holding back, waiting for the release of Doom 3 and some proper tools to work with it.

Im not one of them... Im one of those people waiting to save up enough for a new computer all together first... 
Beh 
i`m waiting for doom 3 creating two quake sp maps ;)
all other games quickly getting too boring to map for. maybe doom3 will be boring too, then i`ll continue mapping for quake... 
Hmmm.... 
Quake. Tasty. Good.

Reminds me of that 'too many leafs visible' error that drove me mad yesterday... 
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