I meant you should have included a .txt with your name and the GPL info - didn't know the info was in the .map file itself. People are too dumb to realize this. 

People are not expected to open the .map in a text editor!

You're doing good wrong! Shame on you! 

it IS the "source code" :D 

map sources are not. 

.map is totally an ascii format 

...that no matter how many smartass comments you make, nobody could reasonably expect anyone to look inside a .map file for information that is usually provided in a seperate .txt document.

You can read the text strings in a .bsp as well, if you open it in a text editor... so you could theoretically embed your readme information in a .bsp, if you could be fucked typing it in as worldspawn keys or some shit. However, that doesn't mean you're not a tool for doing so and actually expecting people to find it. 

Center print the entire license agreement to the player when he/she starts the map or, better yet, make a giant texture out of it so that others could include it in their maps.



I am kidding, of course ;) 

a microsoft word 2007 .doc. Everybody should have that. 

I'm serious when I say a .map file is a text file... just because you do not view it that way does not mean it isn't 100% human-readable text. I was following the GPL guideline that says I should put the short version of the license at the top of the source code file. Did I do it incorrectly?

You called me a tool, fine, I now put it aside; I'd appreciate more open-mindedness in the future about these things. 

Yes. Most of us are aware that a .map is just a plain text file.

The difference between a .map and source code though is that everybody is going to open code in a text editor to view and edit it... whereas a .map is going to be loaded in a level editor.

Not everyone is even going to have .map associated with a text editor. Even those of us that do are unlikely to go looking in there unless they have a very specific reason to do so.

The point is that nobody is going to know that information is in there unless you somehow tell them (for instance, let them know by adding a note in the expected accompanying readme.txt :)

I actually think adding that info in the .map was quite clever and is a (very nerdy) "fun" thing to do. It also means that if the readme gets lost then the information is still there.

The main point that was being made though is that you want people to be able to find and read both the licensing and general information associated with your map file. In order to do that, they have to be able to find it. If you want to have it in the .map file, fine, but provide a readme file that informs the user to look inside the .map file for that information. 

... like txt file are never read by players, or so few... believe me... :P 

As soon as someone modifies the map and saves it out as something else, the comments all disappear. AFAIK no editors preserve them.

Stop being a fuckwit, ok? 

i have to say i'm somewhat bemused as to why you're so adamant to do it in such an atypical way... you only making it harder on the people who are getting the file. if you included a regular .txt file along with the info in the .map file, that would be a different matter, but flat out not including a text file is just odd. 

Necros: it's not me being an advocate for one position over another, I just find the whole "whoa wtf you put the license IN THE ACTUAL FILE?!" sentiment incredibly weird. But, as pointed out above, no one looks at these files (now that we have decent editors (it's not 1996)) and editors probably overwrite the comments. So, yeah, there's a .txt now.

http://www.qwplayers.org/inertia/slip_src.zip 

Gay for the GPL. 

 

Where is teh src for sm.bsp? 

a call for maps and nobody responds except one guy is nice enough to share his work

and you jump on him

people who don't create shit and just rag on other people make me ill 

Who exactly hasn't created anything or released anything? I think everyone here is a mapper with released maps. And many of us have also released our source files. 

 

http://www.lunaran.com/page.php?id=196 

legally, can it even be used in Urban Terror? That game is not GPL 

they could use it, but they would have to release the source to their version of the map.... 

ApinaRaivo / Monkey Rage (Q1SP): http://jago.pp.fi/maps/Quake/araivo-source.zip
Enraged (Q1DM): http://jago.pp.fi/maps/Quake/enraged-source.zip
Zooloo (Q1SP): http://jago.pp.fi/maps/Quake/zooloo-source.zip 

Crdm3/Smalldm2 (Q1DM)- http://daz.quaddicted.com/files/scraps_crdm3.zip