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Quake 2 Did Happen And It Was Awesome 
"Fuck it, pretend Quake 2 never happened. I never liked the Strogg anyway." ???

Nah that is Bullshit. I still prefer Q2 over Q1 when it comes to the original games. Quake 2 had more focus and a better realized world compared to Quake 1. This is both good and bad. Good that the game felt more solid but bad in that the mapping scene is more limited to robot aliens where quake 1 you have Fantasy / scifi and demons all in one.

I still go back and play Quake2's singleplayer campaign ever year or so. Quake 1... only the new maps from this community. I just find the original one so random and stuck together. To each his own. 
Lmao 
 
Doom 4 Box Art 
Not that much different from Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas and Dishonored. Why am I not surprised. 
 
I've seen it before on Twitter but assumed it was Halo box art with the Doom logo on it. 
Box Art 
Hey at least they've progressed from just having a logo on a plain background (*cough* all the quakes *cough*) 
At Least The First Cover Suggested Something Simple But Powerful 
Here it's another case of the cover having a depressed protagonist standing in front of the cover with a gun in hand. Yawn.

They could've made something that goes back to the 90's FPS covers, with the player character facing against a horde of enemies at once (Doom1, Duke Nukem) or something powerful (Doom2). 
 
I'm assuming that's just fanart trying to pass off as real?

Surely they wouldn't be so unimaginative to just have halo master chef on the cover.

This is the one on wikipedia which is a little better https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Doom_Cover.jpg 
 
"I still prefer Q2 over Q1 when it comes to the original games."

U wot m8? 
Lol At The Q2 Hate 
It's a good game even though quake gameplay is more satisfying and its assets and engine also allow more flexibility (hence this board duh). 
But I Agree 
it's a weird second game in a ssries when it has nothing to do with 1. But so is 3. 
Kona 
It's official. Trust me. 
 
nitin

That was always my thought, even from the day I first picked up my pre-order from the local game store. I fired it up and ... "What does this have to do with Quake?" 
 
Not that I didn't enjoy the game at the time, but yeah ... nothing to do, at all, with the first game. 
Q1 Vs Q2 
Eh. Remember that we are by definition that small number of weirdos that really like that brown game with that big lightning monster in, what's he called...

Off the shelf, there ain't much in it. Normal people like both, Q2 usually a bit more because the weapons are beefier and on the surface the game overall seems more impressive.

But Q1 has better legs imo, which you only see after years have passed, and it has a much more appealing and interesting theme, which really comes into its own with the custom maps/mods. 
 
I love Quake and Quake 2 for different reasons. Quake 2 has a lovely visual design consistency and theming but it doesn't have the staying power of Quake. I think this is due to the abstract nature of Quakes design, we're still getting new texture sets, themes and monsters.
Quake 2 maps are simply more of the same, they're all base maps. 
 
Yep, that about nails it. Quake2 is chunky base maps with the occasional mountain/mine environment thrown in. And the lighting is orange/blue.

Quake1 is ... well, whatever you want it to be. 
Q2 Has Inferior Game Play 
Otherwise there'd be an active Q2 community of mappers, modders and players and the Q1 Community would be practically non existent. 
 
I agree. I mean, FFS, it supported DLLs for mods. You could do, basically, anything you wanted. 
 
Isn't it just a matter of sitting and making different art style for Q2, if you like it?

My complain about Q2 was that Q1 weapons felt more satisfying, specially over that laggy RL. Also those toned down noises and modelled explosions and washed, too bright looks. 
 
Nothing wrong with Q2's gameplay. They do have an active community of mappers over at Q2Cafe. It's mostly Multiplayer though.
The singleplayer scene is effectively dead and I think it's due to the lack of theme diversity. 
Doom 4's Cover 
The Revenant cover was sick, they should've used it.
Also Quake 2 is boring and slow. 
 
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Awesomest thing about Quake2 is CoopOrDie!
Wish Quake 1 had that. 
The Last Q2 Map Pack 
by musashi was great. 
Box Art 
Please no. 
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