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Doom4 has been announced, id are looking for people, if you are that person, and are good at what you do, have a look.

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Welp 
Pros:
Seems fast, looks nice, Snapmap looks like an easy to use tool for prefabbing maps together. Speed seems reasonable. Very bloody.

Cons: Linear shooter with basically no projectiles, few enemies at a time, no vertical elements, and Snapmap seems to just make 2d layouts? Not sold on that. Lots of animations and such, will likely get annoying after awhile and seem to just be there to cover up the gameplay's weakpoints.

It's better than Doom3 by a mile, and likely better than most FPS games these days... but still lacking quite a bit. 
 
Doom E3 Gameplay Trailer 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NteAPGprDJk

not what i expected, seems pretty cool. some monster design seemed very quake4-like. makes me wonder if they're planning on consolidating that colorful scifi style with doom and going back to the lovcraftian/horror route with quake 5. 
Omg 
At the end of the trailer there's a monster that bends forward and roars at the camera... ok. 
Pffft 
I dunno bout everyone else but I'm piss bored of the "eyeless zombie with a bell-end on its head" monster design. 
But Yeah Overall Looked Dull 
Paint-by-numbers console shooter with gore gimmick. Exciting stuff. 
 
yeah looks pretty cool. I was watching gamespots thoughts on it and they just dumped on it, saying it's not fast enough (seemed pretty quick to me, I don't want no serious sam, the last one was garbage), it's more like q2 (which is kind of true) but one complete moron saying he might as well just play painkiller. yes if you want to play a childish gimmicky game that's over 10 years old and looks shit compared to todays games, then piss off and play it.

I do hope this doesn't end up like most other id games and it become the popular thing to hate on it. I can't wait though.

Oh, I don't know if it was just the video but there seemed to be some framerate issues in the demo, especially during combat. Looks like my current computer won't handle it :( 
That Does Not Look Good As A Game 
Might be fine as a one time playthrough experience which is what most FPS are nowadays. 
 
Well great, most of the actual gameplay scenes in that are using your hands to climb onto a crate or take things and using your foot to stomp on enemies. Just like what Doom was all about. Environments look like bad Quake maps were you have flat open rooms next to each other. 
Also 
Exciting. 
Really. 
Kinn Nailed It. 
Nothing more to add. 
Yes. One Thing. 
Monster design of D3 was light years ahead. 
Some Really Mind Boggling Complaints Here And There. 
Having seen both demos this seems just fine.

Not 3D enough - sure, but neither were Doom 1 and 2. I'm pretty sure they will let people to use custom prefabs in Slapmap, so not being able to build in 3D may or may not be eventually circumvented by some modding genius. But even if not, it seems like a fair compromise to keep the user made maps flowing.

Speed - watch the Snapmap video and notice how fast paced the deathmatch segment is.

Hitscan only - what? Mancubi and agitating skellingtons are shooting projectiles in demo 2.

Hell - hope to see more green marble, but other than that it was fine. The map showcased reminded me of Valiant E4, somehow. 
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Most of the D3 mistaked listen within the first 50 posts of this thread have not been repeated this time around. 
 
 
I'm pleasantly surprised because I expected total shit. Sure, I can see enough things to point out. Things like the death animations becoming repetitive already, primarily still claustrophobic environments, loot drops and so on. But on the other hand I see a ton of things they are doing right. Will it be a great game? I don't know. But for the first time in over a decade it feels like Id listened to the fans and are really trying to give them what they want. You say an editor and MP is expected but they failed to really deliver on those since 1999. So to me it feels like the game has a lot of heart and that is something I will always applaud, flawed or not. 
Doom E3 Shot Porn 
 
I'll concede that the Cyberdemon is awful. 
 
Looks like potential for fun stuff. Only thing in the trailer that really gave me a frowny face is the color scheme; it's still very Doom 3 and this would have been a cool chance to do something more "out there" visually (and maybe call back to Doom 1/2 color-wise). Otherwise, it's hard to tell much so far, but it at least looks like maybe they've taken the good bits of Rage and gone in a better direction. 
#575 
Hmmmm.

Ok, I like what they've done with the mancubus, where the cyber bits actually look organic and sort of like hard boney growths. That looks cool.

But then, they don't seem to have applied that across the rest of the monsters, who all seem to have that clean Doom 3 UAC look to their cyber bits... 
Mancubus Was Way More Terrifying In D3... 
...with the meaty tusks, no mouth, man boobs (aren't them the scariest thing?).

This latest steamed lobster with leds does nothing for me.

And, oh, it seems the art director on this is really big on seafood, look at them Cacos. 
This 
Looks like potential for fun stuff. Only thing in the trailer that really gave me a frowny face is the color scheme; it's still very Doom 3 and this would have been a cool chance to do something more "out there" visually (and maybe call back to Doom 1/2 color-wise). Otherwise, it's hard to tell much so far, but it at least looks like maybe they've taken the good bits of Rage and gone in a better direction.

Trailer was annoying because 90% of it was just gibs or weapons loading, well hey at least we know that gibs that you'll never see in slo-mo and weapon loading you'll never see at all both work well, woot woot. BUT from the tiny bits that were comprehensible, it looked pretty cool to me, as do the screenshots. 
 
btw they showed about 8 minutes of actual gameplay footage (well, scripted in-game fov30 train riding rather), I am not sure what to link because I don't want to provide some re-hosting prick with views.

Sound design seems as bad as Doom 3 and Rage, at least I was reminded of all the bad sound bits from those games again. Gameplay seems just like any other recent FPS? 
CUE DRAMATIC ACTION MUSIC LOOP 
 
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