I can't run it.

I need Java 6, and I can't upgrade from 5.5 to 6 on my 10.5.8 PPC Mac. I would have buy 10.6 (Snow leopard) or above to be able to upgrade to 6.

Is there a previous version that ('Beta', maybe?) doesn't use Java 6, so I can use this tool?

After all, it was made to prevent newcomers from jumping off of cliffs due to the stress of the manual installation process.

I'm hoping there is a solution, somewhere..

BR.

Baz. 

https://gephi.org/users/install-java-6-mac-os-x-leopard/

i checked and my old leopard mac was using 1.5 too. this worked for me. 

I think the problem is, the official apple java 6 was never released for powerpc.

you could try this: (the "32-bit OpenJDK 7 Beta 1 for Mac OS X 10.5 PowerPC" download?):
http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/

btw, I was hacking at QuakeInjector a bit recently, and improving mac support. I got the build script set up to bundle the app like a normal mac application, added support for choosing the .app for your quake engine and having it find the executable, and storing preferences in ~/Library rather than the current directory.

here's a snapshot of the mac .app:
https://github.com/downloads/ericwa/QuakeInjector/Quake%20Injector.app.b52d4b059a7fd25fd0831e6c6929073d6d475e25.zip
my fork is at: https://github.com/ericwa/QuakeInjector/ 

I have downloaded that app., but I am just not academic enough to understand how to get it installed. It involves using the terminal. I left a blog owner a msg, hopefully he'll get back to me to try and help me out. he seems to know what to do.

All I know is that apparently Java 7 can be installed on a 10.5 PPC Mac, I just don't know how.

Is there an older version of QI using Java 5?

BR.

Baz. 

does java 6 just not work at all on the ppc (non x86/x64 architecture) then?
sorry, i only got into macs after they swapped to x86/x64. 

Apparently it can, but the fact that it is isn't common knowledge.

There is this download for PPC MAC OS X 10.5:

http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/bsd-dist/openjdk7_darwin/openjdk7-macppc-2009-12-16-b4.tar.bz2

This should enable 10.5 PPC's to install Java 7. 

from what I've read java 6 on ppc isn't available at all from apple - and not even for 32bit intel, either (core non-2 duo?) - so this soylatte was a community developed build to support these.

peter tron, here is a forum post I found that might help:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=11547346&postcount=4

just replace the "/Users/Owners/desktop/soy/" with the path you extracted it to. 

quakeinjector definitely uses some java 6 stuff.. not sure how hard it would be to back-port to java 5. it would be nice if QuakeInjector ran on PPC macs out of the box, though. 

does it use, anyway? 

was one class I noticed.. not sure what else 

You make everything so easy and convenient and computers a joy to use. 

PPC has been superseded by Intel as a platform in 2006, that's six years ago and Apple is clearly getting out of the Java business anyway. Of course support ends at some point.

The Apple VM stuff has been donated to OpenJDK in 2010, and there still is no workable solution from them. 

Java SE 6 (December 11, 2006)

I guess a few months of support would really be asking too much! :-) 

 

i now run a windows machine with java 6, so the qi works, cheers guv!

1) i read in an earlier page that qi runs well with 'existing maps'.
how do i get qi to open a previously installed map/mod that it it didn't install itself?

2) obviously qi gives sufficient command lines to the engine of choice, or it would ask the user to manually type it in all the time.
with hat in mind, i was wondering how i would i would customise qi, so it would remeber max_edicts & heapsize commands?
i know, there is a command line box in qi to input this, but is there a way to store/memorize these commands, so even if i loaded up a different map them went back to the previous one, it would recall the heapsize, edicts stuff? 

 

about 2):

would i just put heapsize & max_edicts commands in an autoexec file? 

1) That "existing maps/mods" support only means maps/mods that you *could* install through the QI. You cannot manually add new things.

2) heapsize does not work in a autoexec.cfg. Generally things you use a dash - with do not work in config files. Only the + ones do. - are commandline parameters. With + you can pass commands and variables to the engine.

You could set those two in the main configuration box, won't hurt and you can just forget about it later. :)
I think for some releases we set those in the database too (that QI downloads on launch), not sure though to be honest. 

so i cannot make qi open a map/mod that i installed manually before downloading qi?
no worries, that's not really a problem as such..

so some maps/mods that are installed through qi have the necessary heapsize/zone/edicts commands automatically run?..cool..

so i'm assuming you won't know which ones do until they crash, and if they do, you know that you have to manually tap the relevant commands into the qi command config box?

is it normal to still have qs (my engine of choice with qi) spam the console with edicts/models/light maps warnings, even when you have input the right commands into the qi command config box?

i guess it doesn't matter if the game runs smoothly and doesn't crash! 

Unless otherwise stated, the maps at Quaddicted/Injector don't require fiddling around with heapsize and max_edicts. Those that do (should) automatically add the extra settings in QI. If you spot one that doesn't, please report it here. 

Maybe QI could or should automatically add -heapsize 32000 or 64000 if no custom value is set by the user or the map info. As a precaution for certain engines - for instance, Winquake only allocates 16 MB by default which is too little to run bigger levels. 

The problem with these parameters is that they are not required by some engines and more importantly that there is the difference between software and GL engines (-heapsize vs -mem or even -winmem?). I don't really want to get into that hole any deeper. 

I think heapsize works everywhere? It certainly does in Winquake. In engines that don't require heapsize customization the command is simply ignored. 

i installed this with qi successfully, but upon trying to play, it just takes me straight to the main quake start map.

it's not horrendously problematic, as i can just type game zer in the console, and that takes me to the zerstorer start map.

i just thought you might like to know that the full launch command doesn't appear to be initiated by the qi. 

Hm, did you launch zer or zer11? zer11 was broken, I fixed it now.