Func_Msgboard: Quakespasm Engine

Posted by Baker on 2010/08/20 23:27:49

This engine needs its own thread.

Feedback: I like the OS X version, but I have to start it from the terminal for it to work and can't just double-click it like a traditional OS X app. I'm sure you guys already know this, either way great engine.

http://quakespasm.sourceforge.net/

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Sorry For The Tone

#3426 posted by Kinn on 2018/06/18 21:32:56

reading that back again sounds a bit patronising, but I think it's a valid solution for now.

Maybe the fact it clears the console history doesn't make it a perfect solution.

Con_notifytime

#3427 posted by Kinn on 2018/06/18 21:34:41

lol, I skimmed past that.

Yeah that's even better.

Lol

#3428 posted by mfx on 2018/06/18 21:51:41

yeah, i changed the binding now too.
no trolling intended.

And Btw

#3429 posted by mfx on 2018/06/18 21:56:49

that rrp gif is 5 yrs old now, i just remembered making it was such a chore not knowing how to disable the message.

#3430 posted by ptoing on 2018/06/19 00:13:16

It would be neat if QS allowed for changing the actual layout and functionality of the hud. I think stuff like that would be very cool esp for big mods like AD.

Huddage

#3431 posted by Kinn on 2018/06/19 00:19:00

That requires support for CSQC hud code - I think QSS has this supported, but I haven't had time to check it out yet.

#3432 posted by ptoing on 2018/06/19 01:22:40

I always get warnings when I try to get QSS.

You Mean

#3433 posted by dumptruck_ds on 2018/06/19 01:26:34

the website? It's fine FYI.

http://triptohell.info/moodles/qss/

Because Spike Injected A Packet Sniffer!!

#3434 posted by mfx on 2018/06/19 01:27:13

j/k i get the same warnings, idk what windows doesn't like about qss, it is annoying.

#3435 posted by Kinn on 2018/06/19 01:35:37

more info re: hud

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61351&start=142

#3436 posted by ptoing on 2018/06/19 02:35:05

Yeah, getting a virus warning from that. From the zip as well. Wonder why that is exactly. I reckon it is some funky code which gets picked up by heuristics?

I Was Wondering

#3437 posted by ptoing on 2018/06/22 04:50:59

How hard would it be to get temporal dithering, similar to that of Inside, into a quake engine?

The banding that the fog generates, esp in dark areas is pretty harsh. With good temporal dithering, that is limited to the fogged areas, things would look a lot nicer. Obvs this is not important as it is not a gameplay thing at all, but it would be neat.

#3438 posted by ptoing on 2018/06/22 05:32:56

Also, thanks Kinn for the hud linkage :)

Cool Idea

#3439 posted by ericw on 2018/06/22 06:51:32

The main roadblock for Quakespasm is the renderer is not fully converted to shaders; mdl and lightmapped faces are, but water, sprites, sky and anything else are still using fixed-function OpenGL.

Dumping some links on dithering I found:
http://loopit.dk/banding_in_games.pdf
https://www.shadertoy.com/view/MslGR8

#3440 posted by ptoing on 2018/06/22 08:08:05

Ah, I see.

Here's a good talk about what they did in Inside here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdN06E6Xn9E

I also think they gave away the plugin, or whatever they wrote for Unity to do this stuff for free. Not that that would help a lot with QS.

Isn't Fixed Opengl Faster Though?

#3441 posted by Qmaster on 2018/06/23 00:15:30

#3442 posted by mh on 2018/06/23 19:16:08

On any hardware from the past 15 or so years, fixed function OpenGL no longer exists: it's emulated with shaders in the driver.

Maybe "fixed function is faster" was true in the GeForce FX era, but time and technology have both seriously moved on since then.

Classic Settings And Weapon View

#3443 posted by FifthElephant on 2018/06/24 12:00:45

Aside from being unable to get an accurate weapon view like winquake/mark_v I think the features here are almost perfect.

r_scale, cl_sidespeed etc fix any minor gripes I've had.

Any ideas if this will be fixed outside of scr_ofsz -2 would be good.

@Fifth

#3444 posted by ptoing on 2018/06/24 14:56:02

What about r_viewmodel_quake regarding the weapon position. Setting that to 1 does the job pretty good I think.

I personally really would like the oldschool underwater effect in QS, but yeah, shaders, etc.

That and a way to actually have accurate colormap lighting rendition, because a lot of older levels do look a lot better with the harsher lighting, imo at least.

@Fifth

#3445 posted by ericw on 2018/06/24 22:45:56

Yep r_viewmodel_quake should do the trick.

btw check out the >60Hz monitor support in QSS if you haven't http://triptohell.info/moodles/qss/ - host_maxfps 0 means unlimited, and it keeps physics running at 72fps.

btw thanks for that video ptoing, when I get back into engine coding I'd like to do more with shaders, and the temporal dithering sounds like a cool project.

@ericw

#3446 posted by ptoing on 2018/06/26 00:03:03

Cool :D Would love to see how that looks if properly implemented. I think it would be very nice :)

#3447 posted by Axel on 2018/07/02 00:51:30

ptoing, if Vulkan is an option for you vkQuake solves the banding issues by using 10 bit frame buffer precision.

Bug Report / Replication

#3448 posted by Shamblernaut on 2018/07/04 22:39:25

Please note that this bug occured in my IRC fork of 0.93.0

I just got a: "TexMgr_ReloadImage: Invalid source for player_0"

Error occurred in the middle of a game whilst quickloading and quicksaving a lot, also while recording demos.

This bug caused the save file list to disappear, it also caused loading saves from disk to fail.

video of failure: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/280904822

@Axel

#3449 posted by ptoing on 2018/07/05 19:57:20

Just tried vkQuake. That indeed solves most of the banding issues. Also like that it has classic water. Thanks for this tip :)

#3450 posted by Shamblernaut on 2018/07/06 14:36:02

scratch that last bug report. It occurred again last night without the "TexMgr_ReloadImage: Invalid source for player_0" message. I'm inclined to believe that the bug I'm facing caused that error rather than being caused by it.

either way, with my shoddy coding it could be anything XD

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