#4 posted by
Spirit on 2012/03/18 09:57:29
Awesome, I'll be making a Quake wad later.
Hope I Did Not Screw Up
#5 posted by
Spirit on 2012/03/18 12:07:34
http://www.quaddicted.com/files/wads/tp-indust.wad.jpg
http://www.quaddicted.com/files/wads/tp-indust.zip (I will probably alter the readme later!)
Any suggestion how to best release the renamed full res files? Add a tp-indust-renamed_hires.zip with just the 21 renamed files? Or leave it up to the mapper?
#6 posted by
Spirit on 2012/03/18 12:10:43
They are 256 which as negke pointed out is too big, resizing to 128 now.
#8 posted by
necros on 2012/03/18 18:00:19
yikes, those blue and green ones did not respond well. :S
possible to run those through photoshop with some dithering maybe? (i would, but i don't have it atm, and gimp has less control over dithering).
#9 posted by
Spirit on 2012/03/18 18:40:24
Yeah, this is a quick and dirty conversion just as placeholders to use with the high-res replacements. Would be ace if someone would make good looking mips from it.
Q1 Wads
#10 posted by
sock on 2012/03/18 18:43:13
I imagine the textures will not look great after 8x compression. It certainly would be better if they were reduced in PS. Let me get on the case.
Q1 Scale
#11 posted by
sock on 2012/03/18 18:46:07
http://www.simonoc.com/files/materials/industrial/tp-indust_q1.zip
5.6Mb File, TGA format (all textures together)
Someone else will have to WAD them, I don't have the tools setup.
Ooops
#12 posted by
sock on 2012/03/18 18:54:41
Missed one of the textures, always good to double check stuff!
http://www.simonoc.com/files/materials/industrial/tp-indust_q1.zip
Same link, 4.96Mb Instead
#13 posted by
Spirit on 2012/03/18 19:02:05
Misunderstanding! The problem is the conversion into the Quake palette.
http://forums.inside3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=1975 has some brainstorming
#14 posted by
sock on 2012/03/18 19:31:48
Can the blue/orange/green be in a separate wad? or does everything have to be the same wad?
They Can Be Separate
More convenient to put everything in one, though, I think (unless there's an upper limit on the number of textures in a wad?).
#16 posted by
sock on 2012/03/18 19:53:11
I have got all of the textures in one big page and I indexed the colours to a 240 palette. What is the top 16 colours in the Q1 palette? Does someone have a link to the top 16 colours in the palette?
#17 posted by
sock on 2012/03/18 20:15:09
Ok I found an example of a Q1 palette :-
http://www.gamers.org/dEngine/images/quakepal.gif
I assume the top 32 are not useable leaving me 224. Should I save all the images as GIF to preserve the colour table? Would a zip full of resized GIF's (all using the same palette) work?
I'm pretty sure you can use all 256.
Here's a more accurate image. I used to have a
.pal but I lost it...
#19 posted by
necros on 2012/03/18 20:33:09
no, do not use 256.
the last 32 colours are fullbright. (in both images, that's the bottom couple of rows)
also, sock, i found when i was creating q1 editor textures that first shrinking 50% with bi-cubic or some interpolating algorithm, THEN shrinking with a nearest algorithm yielded better results than just shrinking 25% with interpolation.
the final reduction with nearest will give harder edges otherwise it looks a little blurred out.
finally, i'd recommend not converting all the different coloured textures together. esp. the green and blue ones would benefit from some heavy dithering while the concrete ones would probably be better off with none or very light dithering.
you might want to convert the layers separately in the case of concrete + metal overlay textures.
just my 0.02 anyway.