If there are any runes in any other map, DO NOT ADD A START MAP 

I added a secret because there was no start map 

 

fine

I offically withdraw my map 

you can't change shit on the last fucking second like this. I will not have my map ruined by this. 

 

no startmap, i regret my prank.. 

yeah yeah 

I used an Elder World rune in my map. I could change it to something else though, if that creates a problem.

I think a start map would be cool but whatever.

There's also something slightly amusing about the alliteration Scampie, Skacky, Sock. 

cmon, don�t withdraw the map or such. Sorry if you got me wrong there.. 

Would runes be needed for a start map? 

probably breaking progression triggered by a rune. 

no trouble 

Fifth: info_player_start2 is used when you have a rune. I have a secret that can be access through a trigger_changelevel that goes back to my own level.

This is ok because there is no start map, so the player loses all runes when changing map via console. I have asked about runes before and was informed there is no start map, so it was ok for me to do what I want.

But WITH a start map, I now have to worry if anyone else happened to use a rune just for giggles in their map and the player played their map before mine. 

sorry for being a stick in the mud about this, but I tried very hard to make my map as compatible as possible, and use a fun trick, and there's no other way I can do this and I don't want to remove it at the last second 

 

if there is, I can just change the rune in my map to a rune-textured button.

also there's a good chance my map will be unvised (sorry everyone, I'll release an expanded and fullvised version later, but I worked on this up to the last minute and had to scale it back to finish on-time as it is). 

@Mfx, stop trolling this thread, I said no start map. Jams don't need them, the injector has a drop down menu and QS autocompletes. 

 

sock confirmed to me in irc

<sock> there is not going to be start map, I have said several times no, mfx is just bored
<sock> jams don't need start maps, QS autocompletes names anyway 

whats the face count? Did you use detail brushes?

My map has 57k marksurfaces, but 80% of BW are detail, so its vised in 10 minutes. 

 

Actually, if you want to have a look at the map and suggest some strategies for optimizing it, I'd appreciate it. It doesn't have to be now, it could be for the final version.

Sock was telling me Zendar (god I love that map) fully compiled in 15 minutes; lol. You guys have to realize how technically retarded I am when it comes to designing areas with long line of sight, though. I'm kind of surprised nsoe3 vised at all, especially back in 2008 before detail brushes or bsp2.