Played A Few :)
Adib - haha - inspirational map, but dang annoying gotchas more experienced mappers wouldnt make.
Necros - yah, real moody(dark) little seque of a map with typical aaa style. Love seeing doom mixed up ... but those doom door sounds become a bit much when they keep going off.
My demo ends abruptly because my pc overheated
:)
Eric+Tronyn - typical T. stuff. I found 7 secrets or so, including the weed. But a repeating issue with T's maps is , that the quad secrets are always found *after* f-ing busting your guts 10 times, when there's no-one left to nuke, laugh. Great atmosphere all these three. I loved the intro, which was just as well as had to play it ~int(pi^2) times :).
Scampie's intro is sweet... still lots of playing to do.
Played Tens map is old school crazy. Love the totem.
Warrens looks good - another day.
#195 posted by Lunaran on 2015/09/05 23:27:42
I have nothing to add that everyone hasn't already said (scampie's was best, the eyes in Tens' map were lol fucked up, great efforts by the guys just trying out quake mapping, daz plz learn 2 compile, etc) but this pack was real neato. GJ etc.
Breezep
#196 posted by mwh on 2015/09/11 01:31:56
So how do you get into the "sharp eyes" secret?
I'mnot Breezep, But I'll Try @mwh
#197 posted by primal on 2015/09/11 22:08:41
If I remember right, it's the one that is opened by means of something very hard to see. Turning on fullbright lighting might help you find it.
Yah
Daz's map is freaking awesome, and worth a bugfix release (if it hasnt been done already).
Btw
#199 posted by negke on 2015/09/12 09:39:37
While that lavafall texture worked well in jam2_lunaran, I found it looks out of place in most of these maps. Guess it's not to be used on larger surfaces, only or mostly in combination with the standard lava texture, and not in a way that one can see the transition.
#200 posted by Lunaran on 2015/09/12 14:44:29
It didn't even work that well in jam2_lunaran. Had to do a lot of wacky things with func_walls to stop it from drawing in front of lava it was supposed to be behind (like around the lg secret), and it still doesn't transition well. Nothing transitions well with quake liquids.
Looks better than the Heretic waterfall texture though.
#201 posted by Rick on 2015/09/12 21:19:36
I thought the lava fall texture worked pretty well in some limited situations.
I couldn't get the texture alignment on sides to look right transitioning from horizontal to vertical, so I hid that as best as I could. I avoided any transitions between lava fall and the regular lava texture completely, other than where it poured in from above.
With both my lava falls I tried to give the impression it was coming out of a crack or tunnel. That part could have used more detailing but I ran out of time.
A re-colored version for regular waterfalls obviously has to be done.
#202 posted by negke on 2015/09/12 21:52:28
It doesn't look much like lava at all. Too fluid or something. Okay for small/thin streams, but goofy on bigger ones. "Nice curtains" as someone said.
One of necros' maps has a fairly good animated lava texture IIRC, based on the id lava.
#203 posted by Lunaran on 2015/09/12 22:05:21
this was my main reference
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3736/8984885519_449f5745c7_b.jpg
because yeah, lavafalls should be gloopy
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3172/2312542469_c2c234c7ab.jpg
but lots of blobs and features looked really bad with the low framerate on +0 animated textures so I went with super thin liquid hot-ass lava.
everything liquid in quake looks awful anyway, it's all fine.
It's also noteworthy that lava has the consistency of bad incontinence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahZD95l1MvM
It probably hurts just as bad, too.
MWH
#205 posted by Breezeep_ on 2015/09/13 01:04:08
You'll have to pay close attention to the walls and bookshelves in the map. Look out for any geometry that stick out from a wall.
Played 2 More
#206 posted by nitin on 2015/10/03 14:48:01
necros - clearly a tech demo but like any proper tech demo, the visuals are amazing. Or at least the outside bits which is obviously where the time went.
ionous - great map. Visuals were strong, loved the intricate brushwork and detailing, lighting could have been more moody but guessing time constraints (ditto some of the last area which seems a little unfinished). Gameplay was quite well thought and very entertaining.
#207 posted by parubaru on 2015/10/05 18:39:01
#208 posted by parubaru on 2015/10/10 21:42:22
All kills demo on jam6_warrenm with several slope jumps
and a couple of rocket jumps:
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/demos/warrenm100_paru.zip
#209 posted by JneeraZ on 2015/10/10 23:23:04
YES! Somebody used the slope jumps and various shortcuts.
Vindication is mine!!! :P
Cool demo, man ...
Took Me A While But....
#210 posted by JPL on 2015/10/25 16:22:08
... finally I played the pack.
So basically what others said. I loved the theme, and all the mappers made great maps.
Congrats to all :D
Jam6_Daz & Jam6_start
#211 posted by parubaru on 2015/10/27 17:10:37
I couldn't get 100% kills in Magmapolis. Noclipped to find a vore which didn't teleport in (QS 0.90.1 win-32 and QS 0.90.0 win-64).
In the start map, sometimes the centerprint doesn't appear after you select nightmare skill. Which is a pity because it's hilarious. Demo:
http://quaketastic.com/files/demos/jam6_start_nm.zip
@Scampie Re: Maintenance Hatch
#212 posted by Danrul on 2015/12/15 09:46:38
I think that having the rail on the left of the goldkey bridge be broken would help suggest a drop from the bridge itself. having 3m or so of railing torn off and spiralling down towards the ledge creates a point of visual interest that would lead players to look down from the bridge to the ledge below sorta like this: http://i.imgur.com/rSHYP7f.jpg
That said, I really loved your map. Great aesthetics and it flows really well, good reuse of the central area.
Danrul
#213 posted by adib on 2015/12/15 12:33:04
I keep on believing that some level of confusion is part of the experience. Game designers shouldn't spoil the player bending to every complain. It's for their own good.
#214 posted by - on 2015/12/15 13:41:19
Confusion for the sake of it isn't good, that's simply weak design which is more likely to frustrate players than interest them.
I did intend that the player would get to the gold key door and go 'oh... now where do I go?', but didn't do enough to help them answer that question. Examining the environment and seeing a broken railing totally would've helped. It wouldn't weaken the map, it enhances it by letting you be drawn further into it's world and heightening the sense of exploration. So, I really like the suggestion Danrul, I should've thought to do that, especially since I had broken railings in the foundry area that were also signaling 'hey, you can jump off here'!
#215 posted by adib on 2015/12/15 14:40:16
Ok, let me fix the argument:
'oh... now where do I go?'
I stand for this feeling as an important part of the experience. Two possible outcomes of a well designed solution: "I'm smart because I solved it"; "gee, it was on my face the whole time!". Like good mistery movies do.
#216 posted by Lunaran on 2015/12/15 21:32:54
careful with that line of thought - it's inherently self-defensive. it's easy to create a map that makes no sense and then congratulate yourself for it because you "created mystery."
Well
#217 posted by Tronyn on 2015/12/15 22:49:47
I like exploration a lot, particularly in maps where there is more than one possible route, but nothing is more frustrating as a player than getting lost. For Something Wicked I really erred on the side of caution - I felt like I was designing a console level putting glowing arrow signs, lol, but I thought it better to err on that side than have people wandering around a foggy cavern hating me.
Confusion
#218 posted by Danrul on 2015/12/15 23:58:15
I�d say one goal of good level design is to give the feeling of exploration while pulling the player on an invisible thread. You use architecture and player psychology to make them act in a certain way, which doesn�t always work out, but is important to try nonetheless.
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