It's not question of interpretation, but well-known pain-in-the-ass bug, making even more problems, than necessity to inverting pitch everywhere in engine.
Problem src is mathematical mistake in VecToAngles function;
Bug is present in q1, hl, q2 and possibly in q3 in some masked form, since function is still wrong there.
Need to sorta support that behavior in editor, it seems.
I'll look, if this is possible.
Is it problem only with misc_models, or some more entities use angles key? 

I guess it is a bug with quake, not a "feature", heh.

Well, existing workaround is easy now that I know what's going on. However, it could make sense to support it in the editor, for future users who are not aware of the bug or don't want to mod it out in the quakeC.

I am not aware of any other entities it affects - I think misc_model is the only thing where you want to mess with angles_x and also see the model in the editor. 

Hi, I've noticed a change in behaviour with the flip operation, from previous versions, that for me is undesirable.

In older versions of NetRadiant, when you flipped an object, it sort of mirrored it along a grid line, so the components still had the same grid relationship when flipped. I find that 90% of the time this is what I want.

Now, it makes it so the flipped object sits in the same space as the original, but typically this will just mean all the components of the flipped object are now sitting on the wrong grid, and it takes longer to re-position it.

See image here: http://i.imgur.com/25pRmmI.png

This is not a problem for simple objects, but with large complex structures, I find I have to spend more time shuffling it into the desired position.

Could I request either adopting the old behaviour again, or adding an option? 

Ok, i'll try to add snapping of transform origin specially for flip commands.
Atm there are two options to get old result, but behaving like that by default is likely to be better. 

Great, thanks for this :) 

I noticed the Q1 entity definitions file contains some errors. The box size of the powerups is wrong, posing the risk of them falling out of the level. There also were some non-existing entities and missing spawnflags here and there. Apart from that, I was almost inclined to rewrite the entity descriptions, because the writing is inconsistent and in some places misleading, to say the least. Maybe I'll do it at some point.

If anyone is interested in a slightly updated version, you can grab it here. 

Nice one, numerous worthy commits there.
I do grab it for sure :) 

The spawnflag to have a light start switched off is 1, therefore the correct line in the definition must be:
<flag key="START_OFF" name="Start off" bit="0"/>

Btw, this thread should probably be renamed to "The Custom NetRadiant editor" since it's really only about this new version. 

 

I took my cues from you all in the General Abuse thread before compiling this into one list. Ironically, I still have never even used any Radiant. 

the default for all spawnflags should be zero. 

Qmaster: I meant the error was introduced by me, because the whole start_off part is missing in the def file that comes with the editor and I added it in the first place.

metl: It is. Just the way the def file works: bit=0 makes it spawnflags 1; bit=1 is spawnflags 2; bit=2 is spawnflags 4 and so on. 

i see. 

https://goo.gl/UyXRUJ


binds...
* doubleClick/Enter in Entity inspector Class list = convert entities
* ctrl during creating brush = cube brush
* m3: apply texture name and alignment to selected primitives
* ctrl + shift + m3/drag: project tex from face in tex clipboard to brushes(BP format) and curves[/list]

misc...
* on worldspawn entity create/convert to one do most expected move-selected-primitives-to-worldspawn
* convert point entity to group one = placeholder brush at origin + remove origin key
* convert group entity to point one: set origin key to contained primitives center
* fix uniform rotation operations for eclassmodel, miscmodel entities
* scale miscmodel entities uniformly
* added func_detail to world and detail filters
* region->set_xy: using active projection, not just xy one; is subtractive (no region off before applying)
* new brush prefab: icosahedron
* refactored CSGTool, improved Hollow::diagonal algorithm stability
* fix scaling for doom3 brush format
* Pointfile function: try to also load .pts leak line file (q1), if .lin isn't found
* snap transform origin for flip commands
* change light intensity save format from %f to %g to prevent .99999 on transforms
* support 'stupid quake bug' (invert pitch in angles)(generic and miscmodel ents)(cfg: entities="quake" in .game)
* clipper: place 1st and 2nd points far, 3rd near to ease 3 points clipping
* fixed q1 entity definitions (negke)
* changed surface inspector behavior from 'set whole texture projection' to 'set modified value' (makes sense for multiple surfaces selected)
* BP: surface inspector and Tex* binds scale texture by its axes, not world axes
* BP: fix rotation of tex projection with scale S != scale T
* BP: fix ruining nonregular tex projections by surface inspector (for example after fit/seamless/arbitrary projection)
* jump over tex projection scale = 0 case, while modifying one (AP and BP)
* fixed and improved normal finding in patch texture autocap algorithm
* removed axis cycling in patch cap texture; using autocap
* patch cap texture: project, using brush texture projection math of current mapformat to make it seamless with brushes by default
* Surface inspector->Project functions work for curves (in AP map format too)
* place created simple patch mesh not in middle of bbox, but on edge to make result more usable
* prefs-interface-layout-single scrollable toolbar
* tweaked Human Radaint GTK theme: toolbar pixmap separators, more compact toolbar
* Human Radiant Dark GTK theme
* new texture lock algorithm for BP map format, supporting any affine transformations
* more robust texture lock algorithm for AP map format, locking what is possible to; also improves seamless face2face tex paste function
* experimental fix of rendering scene and evaluating brush/patch representation TWICE on every transform (literally after every mouse move fraction) 

 

very happy to see lots of little fixes for things that bugged me in the past!

For me, the holy grail would still be a "one-click" method for rotating a texture to align with a given face edge, but it's still great to see the various little texturing improvements in this update. 

* doubleClick/Enter in Entity inspector Class list = convert entities
Hm, I always used that to turn world brushes into the specific group entity. Seemed more intuitive than the m2 menu for some reason.
While allowing group<->point conversion is neat in theory, for my purposes anyway, it's really a non-standard edge case thing that I'm not sure needed dedicated editor support. By "dedicated" I mean a way to actively do it, rather than simply accepting manually converted entities.


Not sure if this is actually the case, but earlier on it seemed like an increased UNDO queue size does not affect redo in the same way?!

I only just noticed the color/theme settings. Good stuff.

Minor feature idea: There's that option to make the clipper use caulk. Since in Q1 there is no "caulk" texture, there could be an extra checkbox to make the clipper use "skip" instead. Or maybe even one with a field where you can enter the name of any texture to be used when clipping. 

Or maybe even one with a field where you can enter the name of any texture to be used when clipping. 

"one-click" method for rotating a texture to align with a given face edge

Interface could be something like: select face, then (whilst holding a key combination) just click on/near one of the face edges, and it rotates the texture to line up with the edge. 

...maybe 4 different key combos to specify which side of the texture (top/bottom/left/right) butts up against the face edge. 

gland: do you have more of those small bugging things? I have huge list of ones, but probably ones, you noticed, are important/easy to fix.

doubleClick/Enter in Entity inspector Class list = convert entities
It was always possible to convert entites via typing in new classname key (but code didn't handle all cases correctly)
The purpose of converting is to avoid redoing entity keys
I added converting by rightclick in right click menu, but that is not too intuitive
Also Class list behavior for point entities was to create one in 0, 0, 0, which was quite confusing
That is why i changed that behavior; I can look, if it is possible to create group entities from world primitives instead of showing error msg, but can't tell, if this is possible in enough elegant manner-)

increased UNDO queue size does not affect redo in the same way?!
I'v just tried to increase 64->128 and it worked for redo too. May be you cleared redo sequence... i noticed it happening sometimes, when you start transform w/o accomplishing it.

make the clipper use "skip"
I'v just tried and it does it:)
cfg is q1.game->shader_caulk = "textures/skip"

align texture with a given face edge
this is work for uv editor for sure, since it's just a part of wished texture aligning possibilities ( + i don't quite imagine the math around this:)

I also investigated possibilities to support model frames, skins, plural textures from .bsp, when loaded, as model (i.e. things, missing for satisfying q1 support)
File formats don't look like very big issue, main problem is used hashed cache scheme for resources, where resource name is its unique identifier (hash)
That's why we can see only one of textures, having equal names and sitting in different wads (i also wonder, if texbro is nuff usable atm, i.e. with all loaded texs shown)
So supporting that kind of stuff would mean tweaking a lot of tricky code (which i do not understand very well) for namely all sorts of resources; That is likely more efficiently to focus on more generic things instead of this (except of texbro, if it's not fine, as it is) 

Trying out some prog tricks with info_notnull and func_stuff but am been forced to choose between either point or group entity. No mixing basically. Is there a way around this? Reading above in the change notes about group point conversion etc.. But it makes no sense to me what this is or how to make it work. Any ideas? 

It's doable via some anal tricks atm:
create group entity
erase its primitives completely (for example via clipper tool)
now you'v got it shown at 0,0,0 and selectable via entity list
note: origin key must be set to get it saved to .map 

win32 build
win64 build (mainly for the sake of x64 q3map2, but also may improve smoothness, comparing to w10's VM + win32 build)

binds...
* shift + m3: apply texture name and alignment to selected primitives and faces (m3 was inconsistent + often required quite deep planning)
* ctrl + shift + m3: also project tex from face to selection

Misc...

* entities converting: also create group entities from world primitives instead of "do not want to convert worldspawn entity" error
* fix: group dialog: prevent focusing on texbro->filter entry and console, if switching to ones by click on tabs (was blocking hotkeys)
* prefs->cam->Selected faces wireframe option (def = yes)
* Textured+Wireframe camera render mode
* render scene to FBO to get following options:
preferences->camera->MSAA (def = 8 samples)
preferences->orthographic->MSAA (def = 8 samples)
coloured camera POV icon w/o rerendering the scene
coloured rectangular selector box w/o rerendering the scene
* fallback to glCopyTexImage2D (NPoT), if FBO isn't available
* lazy cursor updates in clipper mode
* update cursor immediately on clipper mode toggles
* fixes and optimizations of entity names rendering; for instance: don't prerender textures for unneeded names
* selection system: fixes of: selecting point behind point (not perfectly precise distance)
selecting occluded objects and faces via direct and indirect hits
* select models from back in 2d
* entity inspector, entity list->'autofocus on selection' buttons: also do FocusAllViews() on clicking them
* focus on preferences treeview on 2nd+ call to make text search to work
* fixed WindowPositionTracker globally: minus many particular hacks, plus correct wnds positioning in Floating viewports layout
* fixed ToggleShown functionality: shown/hidden wnds states are saved and loaded correctly in Floating viewports layout
* also save/load XY and Cam viewports visibility states
* new preferences->layout icons
* fix: stop chaseMouseMotion on mouse button release 

Minor feature request for the entity list ("L"): it would be nice if it was possible to press any key while the entity list is open and selected to make it jump to the entities starting with the corresponding letter. A quicker way to select and edit specific entities than having to scroll through the whole list all the time - since Quake maps typically have hundreds of entities, with all kinds of different classnames and targetnames.

In addition to that there could be a related feature to switch between the list sorting/displaying entities by targetnames or classnames = in the latter case basically ignoring the targetname field of entity if it exists.