cant help but this looks utterly like crap, i'm sorry
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/mark_v_0000.png
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/mark_v_0001.png


and just stay away from naming the map like this dm_somethin' 

Lol, I know it looks terrible. For some reason, my pc makes it look alright. And thanks for the "dm_" tip. 

Also, the main reason why it looks so bad is that the wall texture I used is way too bright, so I am going to swap it with something darker. Really loving all this feedback! 

>>Lol, I know it looks terrible. For some reason, my pc makes it look alright

i'm not about the actual (distorted, fov 150 there) view of the map

but overall, the map is too small for dueling, and theres to many useless items (two RA and 2 GA) sitting next to each other and so 

Ty again, I thought the RA and GA being right next to each other was a little funny after looking at it again. I don't know if I can make the map bigger though, it would take more work than what it's worth. It handled four players just fine though, and I dueled on it too; it worked pretty well. Honestly, I think larger maps are worse for dueling in the fact that you have to take forever to find your opponent. But, that is assuming that the map is not wide open. 

If you gonna make a propper dm map, i would suggest you to check the map series by Frib efdm3-12
for inspiration, and pkeg1(fribdev1) especially 

Check out this database and play a few of the top ones to get an idea and feel of good DM maps -

http://mpqarchive.pauked.com/ 

You need to study the works of headshot, danimal, ztn, retinal, mr fribbles, escher - those guys made some amazing stuff and always put a lot of effort into making sure the maps play great. Not that there aren't other great DM mappers, but these guys kind of got the ball rolling back then. 

+1 to both posts above me.

Also see https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Py55XH3PZBRCf9kj0yh6ozQsgV7PV0he2PO4GBbssts/

which is an outstanding collection of brief DM map info/opinions.

But also just generally, good on ya for getting your mapping ball rolling. 

In case it's not obvious, that doc has multiple tabs. You might find the "About" tab to have some interesting bits, but be sure to flip over to the "DM Map Database" tab. 

How the hell do I make a elevator in this thing? 

You can make them with both the func_plat and func_door brush entity.

Fun_plat is fairly straight forward, you make your moving platform and enter "height" as a key with a number signifying how far the platform will travel upwards.

func_door is a little more complicated, you set the angle of the brush as either -1 or -2 depending on whether you set the brush to move up or down. Also it's a good idea to have the platform have a column reaching to the floor so it moves the distance that you need it to. You can change where it stops or starts using the "lip" key. 

So, is there any trigger I need to set up here, or does the elevator work when the player touches it?
Nice name btw 

My entity shoots wrong shells!

HostError: Cl_parceserver message: bad server message 

It works when the player stands on it 

omitting TE_LIGHTNING1 in WriteByte. 

How do I make a wall clipable? As in a wall that I can walk and jump through. 

Turn it into a func_illusionary 

ty 

So, from the stuff you guys told me, I worked on my old map, dm_vertig, a lot more to make sure it was in working order. I did not fix issues like map size, as it is staying the way it is. I fixed an issue where people spawning in corridor could not get to the next floor safely. I did this by adding elevators. I increased mobility when rocket jumping to each floor. I did this by widening the gaps for the floor entrances, so that way you do not need to take time lining yourself up. I also made the map look aesthetically better, by adding curved surfaces and changing the textures to something more bearable than the last map. Items were also replaced, with armor types being separate from each other. The final thing I did here was add lighting, but be warned, it's super shitty. I might just ask someone to do it for me.
One major problem with the map is that if you do not own the full game, textures are invisible, therefore making the whole map invisible. I may add a compatibility map that uses textures from the Quake demo to fix this. Then there's the corridor camping thing, just look a bit back in the thread to see what that was.
Well, anyway, if you want the map, here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/phdewcpceo9mnh8/vertig2.bsp 

http://www.mediafire.com/download/nam3zj2wzhgkcs0/vertig2.bsp 

Will try later.

Ps, nothing wrong with having dm in the file name. Makes life easier imo 

Thanks! It's still not perfect, but it's a lot better than dm_vertig. 

I found problems naming a level dm-something or dm_something amont QuakeWorld people. A server didn't like "-", others complained about "_", so on.

QW would benefit from some QuakeSpasmWorld, giving some love to the code. Downloading .lit files, for example. 

lol
frogbot dueling dmm3 and dmm5
http://quaketastic.com/files/demos/frogbotvertigo.rar