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Wish I Lived In Australia. 
I couldnt get much farther away! 
Cheers 
distrans and frib.

I've been buying parts from MSY who have very good prices but agonisingly atrocious service. 
New Valve` Hardware Survey Results 
http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html

gamers are not embracing dx10.
and half of the people still use 3+ years old hardware. PC gaming is dying haha

if this is really representative, no wonder modern PC game dont sell that well - only minority (like ~20%) can run them 
 
That's likely because to embrace DX10 you have to embrace Vista and most gamers aren't willing to do that. 
Thing Is For Example Crysis 
Crysis looks very nice on high settings under DX9, and they said "to experience DX10 extra features you require Vista", but you can make DX9 run all of the extra features just by changing some digits in the config files!

So why bother getting Vista and DX10? Vista is not a hippo unless you have QX6600+ and 4Gb, besides it's only really the 9800 cards which do DX10 any justice at the moment!

People want games with good gameplay, Crysis was a very pretty game with very average gameplay - Assassins Creed - not dissimilar - er... is there really that much else which uses DX10 features to their potential? 
Thing Is For Example Crysis 
Crysis looks very nice on high settings under DX9, and they said "to experience DX10 extra features you require Vista", but you can make DX9 run all of the extra features just by changing some digits in the config files!

So why bother getting Vista and DX10? Vista is not a hippo unless you have QX6600+ and 4Gb, besides it's only really the 9800 cards which do DX10 any justice at the moment!

People want games with good gameplay, Crysis was a very pretty game with very average gameplay - Assassins Creed - not dissimilar - er... is there really that much else which uses DX10 features to their potential? 
Vista 
"Vista is not a hippo unless you have QX6600+ and 4Gb"

Bollocks. A 2 year old Core2Duo machine with 1GB ram is going to run Vista SP1 just as well as it would run WinXP SP3, so stop spreading FUD please. Every OS is going to suck immideately after release due to shitty drivers and the like, Vista was no exception and WinXP was definately no exception either when it originally came out.

If you take a look at most recent perfomance benchmarks and compare gaming perfomance of Vista SP1 compared to XP SP3, you will actually notice that there are pretty much equal. 
So Does 
vista now copy files without taking ten minutes? 
Bambuz 
Yep, that bug was fixed a long time ago. The fix is included in Service Pack 1. 
 
"Every OS is going to suck immideately after release due to shitty drivers and the like,"

Leopard ran like a dream right out of the box. Or are you talking about PC operating systems? :) 
Vista Versus SP3 
If you take a look at most recent perfomance benchmarks and compare gaming perfomance of Vista SP1 compared to XP SP3, you will actually notice that there are pretty much equal.

This is a horrible argument to make. Equal performance doesn't mean it's actually good performance. 
Willem 
OS X 10.0 sure as hell didn't run like a dream. 
Vigil 
"This is a horrible argument to make. Equal performance doesn't mean it's actually good performance."

Whats your point? If Vista SP1 having equal performance to WinXP SP3 doesn't mean it's actually good performance, are you implying that both are shit and we should all be using MS-DOS? 
 
"OS X 10.0 sure as hell didn't run like a dream."

Sure, a complete architecture change and UI rewrite caused some hiccups. I guess I can concede that. 
OS Wars Huh? 
from the same Valve stats

Vista has shown a decrease in its share of users since November�s results. Six months ago it climbed from 7.99% to 16.91%. [this time]the operating system was reported as being on only 14.95% of machines. 
 
If Mac took the opportunity to capitalize on the weakness of Vista and filled the void for a reliable PC-gaming-oriented OS I think they could make a hefty chunk of change. Microsoft surely isn't doing shit for PC gaming, and Linux/Unix are generally too unreliable. And, if Mac did manage to do that, I would probably end up buying the OS. 
 
PC gaming is dead (or, at least, dying). I know that's flame bait for some people but pursuing the PC games market is a losing strategy at this point.

Consoles are for game and computers are for developing console games. 
PC Gaming Is Dead 
Is PC gaming being dead the reason why it has been enjoying double digit growth every single year since 2000? I also think developers like Blizzard and Valve would like to have a word with you, to laugh at you for a bit and the continue swimming in their pool of cash. 
PC Gaming Is Dead 
Blizzard killed it with WoW

and MS doesnt want x360 mmo for a reason! 
 
Yeah, World of Warcraft. And nothing else. PC gaming is kicking ass! 
I Think That 
Half-Life 1 *could have* been the pinnacle, no? 
As For Vista / XP 
OK, I admit I'm no expert, but I bought my PC with XP because it was cheaper! Also 4Gb of RAM is not necessary even in the most recent of games!

Assassins Creed was apparently going to recommend 3Gb, but I'm sure I read a box somewhere which said 2Gb!

Games/Software are running quite a way behind software ATM it would seem!

I play Quake still because it's a fun good game, and you dont need hundreds of people to make original content, so there is STILL original content coming out for it! The gameplay will never get old! It's fast and arcadey - a good challenge, good for the adrenaline! Kind to system specs etc etc

I love it! 
I Meen "running Behind HARDWARE" Meh... 
 
On The Other Hand... 
i think the home computer (PC and mac) is still the best platform for people making and sharing free/independant games and game mods. 
Open Source Or Die Thx 
 
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