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Yeh. I got beef.
Sham is a fucking hypocritical bitch arse coward. All well and good to have mindless fucking flames in GA, but as soon as it's about an important issue like, say, how we treat our fellow human beings he fucking pussies out and cries that we shouldn't discuss it. Bitch. "YOUR WORK IS CRAP, STUPID FUCKING ASSHOLE SDL PORT LOLLLL"
from "rui lo" aka trinca@mail.pt (oops sorry if that increases your spam count!) I have to agree, but not only does that apply to shambler, but to a lot of the regulars here. I still can't understand why everyone is indifferent to this.
Shambler did offer an opinion, even though it was hidden underneath several layers of sarcasm and irony.
awesome mail :)
sorry if I didnn't sent it but is AWESOME :) ohhh forgot to say, know I love Scampie darling I even got him in my facebook ;) anyway peace! sleepy, you are one of the best mappers ever. rtz will always be on my favorites list, and eye in the sky oooh my!
I see that deqer fellow crawled his way over to you guys, huh?
I'll just leave this here: http://www.quake3world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=47566 enjoy :) I wasted some of my time and found deQer / Ryan Briscall's website contact:
http://www.ryanbriscall.com/contact/ Also searched his works and releases. Nothing stands out apart from the practically universal dislike he's managed to earn. Adobe Creation Suite?!?!
That stands out to me because if you can't even spell the name of your software that you are listing on your resume, then who is going to give you a job?!?! There are many things that aren't cool - just look at that rabid cunt Deqer.
But yes, point taken. Supposedly one troll -- and he might not have really been a troll, just very opinionated.
And 15 other trolls like dogs that poop all over the house are doing at least much trolling as the supposed "problem person". Meanwhile, it clearly doesn't occur to these "extra participants" that they are accomplices in screwing up the TrenchBroom thread. /Pointing out the obv Yes, and there a couple of mother hens clucking their tongues from the sidelines and not really doing anything to help.
Just like you screwed RMQ with pretend-defend thread fueling the animosity and trolling the shit out of both the locals and RMQ team?
Nah, not nearly as bad. And usually when I've trolled, I make it obvious enough.
"Pretend defend of RMQ?" I tried to help those guys every moment I could to get people interested in their work because they were doing insane crazy things with bsp2/QuakeC. Maybe everyone didn't like all the ideas, but some great concepts were done and nice engine features and tools that resulted benefit everyone who has an interest in single player Quake. Postind Deqer's details was a misdirection attempt from the TrenchBroom thread so conversation could be more on track there.
Won't be spamming it or anything. cause I thought Spiney might be bored and needed some reading material.
I'm thoughtful like that. Caring is sharing. * Scampie (~Scampie@72-12-65-92.oxfordnetworks.net) has joined #terrafusion
* Q sets mode: +o Scampie <@Scampie> skacky and onetruepurple: I AM BACK IN IRC <@Scampie> JUST FOR YOU TWO * Scampie sets mode: +b *!*@*.dynamic.vectranet.pl * onetruepurple was kicked by Scampie (onetruepurple) * Scampie sets mode: +b *!*@*.w90-0.abo.wanadoo.fr * skacky was kicked by Scampie (skacky) <@Scampie> YAY! <@Scampie> ok bye forever again * @Scampie (~Scampie@72-12-65-92.oxfordnetworks.net) Quit (Quit: GTFO) Readme file please. ZIP archive instead of 7z please.
If this was the first response to my first map release I'd walk away and never open a map editor again. Have you been hitting fucking asbestos from a bong? Noone. Spirit just wants to put it in his quakeinjector (java) thing without having to modify it first.
plus its a smidge easier to rename it to onetruepurple: Did you forget to take your riddling or have you become a SJW? Not sure how you jumped to that idea. Also it was neither the first comment nor did the user react like you in any way. It is not even anything about the map itself. Take care about yourself.
Kona: It's not software vs software but format vs format. Zip is simply the lowest common denominator. Spike: Amongst other things :p I'm amazed this is still going - not any one problem between any two people, but a general culture, among people who are at least ostensibly dedicated to technical and artistic matters, of introducing piss into the water.
I may be an "autistic fanatic," as I've been called, but I just don't get it. Although under my own scheme, I don't really have the right to denounce anything or even ask questions, since one's ability to be a grunting, spewing, churning asshole is in direct proportion to one's worthwhile contributions. func_beef situations tend to always start out small and justified, but then they tend to spiral out of control because one side always has to have the last word. You can't control the beef, once the beef has been set in motion - you just have to let the beef runs its course. It's a good idea to keep popcorn available for these occasions.
@tronyn -- its the internet -- in 2 weeks, you'll struggle to recall any of it. Remember deuquer --- who's feedback for a map editor was mixed with good points and way too much intensity?
For all that feedback and intensity, would be interesting to know whether or not he ever made a released map with the editor for whatever non-Quake game he was a mapper for. I immediately demand the original reasoning
backfrom where we started. A thread I commented in 12 years ago is still going on here.
I would congratulate metlslime on the uptime, but he's a great big stinky bum. that's why this thread exists. Also, so the frustration doesn't come up in more technical threads/discussions.
I'm with shambler on this one. https://github.com/kduske/TrenchBroom/issues/1537
Sigh, okay. Is it really too much to ask to go to github and create an issue report when you discover a bug? Asshole. Occasionally it does seem like a bit of a chore (even more so if one has to register an account first) when the important thing should be reporting a bug in first place <- which apparently is quite something to ask for these days.
Although in this case, especially considering it was actually mostly a derp on my part, I do realize the passive aggressive introduction is inappropriate. Sorry. The beef has been very juicy lately. I can appreciate that when I read during my morning commute. Hope the salt levels stay in check though...
"Your opinion on (X) is invalid because you've made less content than (Y)" is real low-rent stuff chaps. Come on, you're better than this. I want to see some proper top-shelf quality beef, with both sides giving it some, punctuated by Shambler slapping down some of his patented stone-cold truth bombs every now and then. I've got my popcorn ready and everything.
I was hoping to create an edgy thread that got people talking about innnovation, sharing stories. I intentionally baited some.
Looks like I was too edgy and a bit too trolley -- although I was going more for the humor angle --- like my preposterous list of things that a reply had to consider --- I mean seriously, haha ;-) But that humor doesn't translate well to the written word, especially without emoji :-) Happens to the best of us! My intentions were good. On the plus side, I am proud I was able to create a thread too controversial for Func ;-) How many times has that happened --- ever!! I'm officially starting beef with Baker for using those goddamn hyphens in his "emoji".
;) > ;-) Feel free to try to ascribe negative motivations to me as you would like. I'm assuming you enjoy wasting your time, it's yours to spend. ;-)
I like starting controversially named threads or disruptive posts for the shock factor or to get people talking. Sometimes, I have struck gold --- a very provocative rant about Quake 3 vs. Quake 1 mapping created some shockwaves that caused several very cool things to happen. All just by typing words on a keyboard, haha. Well in any case, I'm glad to hear that Marcher 2: Even Marcherer is due out sometime this year. :)
??? It is, in fact, a number of the works for Quake were done for resume enhancements/hopes of gaming jobs and other reasons beyond Quake.
I thought that would make an interesting angle for discussion. Because more than a fair number of level designers here worked/did work/wanted to work professionally in that field. It was a significant factor in the creation in a number of prominent works in the past --- where the creators were mapping "for Quake" but they were aiming "for something more". Are those kinds of level designers with enhanced motivations more likely to try to *really showoff* their talent more than someone new and bored who downloaded a map editor? Also another sub-theme of the topic
Steam newbies or bored people who downloaded a map editor --- they don't really have any detailed knowledge of the history of Quake. I mentioned FrikaC who is one of the most influential developers of all time -- since I perceive you to be rather new, he was the author of FrikBots and frikqcc Quake C compiler. He also went on to work in the games industry. But more than that -- like I said, I perceive you to be rather new but it may or may not be the case --- But if it is the case that you are new, and unfamiliar with the history of Quake or how external motivations may have shaped the game Should conversation topics be dumbbed down to cater to your level of knowledge of the history of Quake? So there is a question for you It is, in fact, a number of the works for Quake were done for resume enhancements/hopes of gaming jobs and other reasons beyond Quake.
I thought that would make an interesting angle for discussion. Are those kinds of level designers with enhanced motivations more likely to try to *really showoff* their talent more than someone new and bored who downloaded a map editor? Isnt it a given that those with more experience or a larger end goal in mind, are going to put more effort into something than those who just recently downloaded a map editor? It seems part of your goal here was to get me to speak of myself in a way that was self serving. "Ive been mapping for *this long*" "Ive played Quake for *this long*" None of that even matters in this context. All the info one wants about Quake is freely available on the internet. Theres countless documentaries, threads on forums, and articles on Quake to fill in whatever type of Quake knowledge one seeks to acquire. meant to preview but accidentally posted. Honestly, though, thats probably for the better.
Long story short: Its obvious you havent played my maps or read the readmes attached to them. Meanwhile, I have MarkV pinned to my taskbar and read every post on the recent MarkV thread. So, thanks man. Really appreciate the sense of comradery you have! "Its obvious you havent played my maps or read the readmes attached to them."
Before you think IM being self serving and trying to say "If you played them youd see my skillzzzzz brooo" But a "You didnt have anything substantial to say about my mapping or me so its obvious you didnt even touch em" Are you high? OTP and Mukor both called you out for your bullshit. It's about time you'd shut the hell up.
On the subject of vintage Baker:
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=60370 Here he is in 2009 enjoying the economic crisis! I have this mental shortlist of people on func who take things waaaaay too seriously.
This particular thread serves as both entertainment and re-affirmation of said list. http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61375&start=1567&end=1626
This is what you get when you don't keep the beef thread healthy and fresh. It starts leaking rotten beef juice all over the rest of the forum. Specifically, Gunter vs. The World has taken over MarkV's thread... What do you know, there IS a Beef Thread!
Hmmm... "Gunter vs the World." Sounds like my next Quake mod! Nah, actually, FvF is enough. It could already be described as, "Gunter Hates You All And Wants You To Suffer Endless Humiliation." So you should definitely all come play FvF! We have regular cooperative (Quest mode) games every Sunday night (some weeks more active than others) between 7-10 PM Central. So come play! Thennnn my abominable monsters will make you suffer! >:D server: fvf.servequake.com web: www.fvfonline.com If I felt shifting the backlash of my barrelgun in quake, I now was living in a country without a license!
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