have you changed something recently? the address bar used to have the post # of the first post visible in the bar, so you could change it to jump to whatever post # you wanted to. now, all it does is show:
http://www.celephais.net board/forum.php (replace space with /) no matter what you're looking at. 

Are you using Opera? If you have focus on the address bar (eg cursor in it), it will not change even if you click on links. 

and my cursor isn't on the address bar 

I haven't changed anything...

maybe its a misguided attempt to show you only the webpage's filename and not the querystring which they consider confusing and complicated? 

FF 3.5.2 here and I see the entire full URL, in the case of right now: http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=2&start=1336

But a bug I just noticed: If I take a full URL, like the one above and put it inside the quote tags, this is what happens:

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=2&start=1336

Nor link doesn't work neither does it get fully displayed as a quoted text. 

good catch, i'll have to figure out how to fix that. 

well, it's not doing it anymore. i'm not sure why it was before, but it must just be been a momentary glitch on my side. 

I just noticed that most people's nicks are white, when I know they should have a color. I don't recall this happening in the earlier betas of Opera 10, just the release candidate and final. On a mac by the way... but Firefox and Safari have no problem.

The following nicks, just from the last 50 posts are white: mine, metlslime, rickyt23, spirit, JPL, inertia, Jago, Pulsar, onetruepurple.

I would guess that Opera doesn't like certain weird RGB combinations? Are there perhaps style options I should change to get around this? 

Grahf's color bug doesn't occur in Opera 10.00, Ubuntu Jaunty Jizz 

Maybe it is an Apple feature because white is trendy? ;)

Check if the visited links are set to white in Preferences -> Web Pages. And make sure you did not enable some style/mode/layout. 

 

i think if you switch on fit to width, it enables some mode that takes care of bad colour contrasts , too 

meaning it is disabling colored text when the color doesn't contrast against the background sufficiently? 

but, for example, JPL uses bright red, surely that contrasts enough? 

Megaman was right. "Fit to Width" was causing the problem. Never would have guessed that. 

yeah, it's modifying the colour then. 

... and don't read func (because, say, I'm on honeymoon) it's hard to catch up because (particularly) the permanent threads have like 300 posts and there's no way to only read some of them. If I click the "new 300" link, they all get marked as read.

I guess I should just get over this and not read 300 posts of mostly pointless bickering, but have you thought about making this easier, maybe paging through new posts 25 at a time or something? 

i haven't really thought of that, but it might be doable. Currently the "unread" status is per-thread, not per post -- each thread stores the highest-numbered post you've seen, and so if the post count is higher than that, it means you have unread posts.

Since viewing only the first page of "new" posts would only bump up that "highest read post" up by 25 (if you have 25 to a page) then it would correctly remember that you haven't read them all yet, if you get interrupted and don't actually get a change to read all the pages of new posts. 

Please fix the special character -> html entity code so they are not html encoded again when you pull them from the db (guessing).

It should display the character not the HTML code.

You HTML-卍! 

 

The links to the PQ review sites are dead. You should probably change them to Spirit's mirrors. 

yes, good idea 

There are no Spirit's mirrors yet, sorry. Quakewiki.net is someone else and he was not cooperative. 

I used the mirrors at quaddicted.com for the three sites that seemed to be mirroed (SPQ level heaven, teamshambler, and quake map hotel) and then used quakewiki.net links for the remainder.

Tenfour, which is hosted at telefragged still, seems to have recently broken (script error.) Hope that gets fixed.

Talon's strike is at archive.org still, might be good to grab that and put it in a zip file on a website that one of us actually controls.

And crash is still at quake2.com, can't believe that's still running. 

and just wanted to give some additional recognition to Spirit and the other people at i3d who did all the archiving work a few months ago. A big effort, and you guys managed to save a lot of un-replacable stuff. Thanks again. 

Oh, you found some old directory. I did not even remember it was still there, heh.

The "new" mirror files are not uploaded yet. I will properly announced that. Finished some sites already.

They screwed up their hosting by not interpreting ASP (or something like that) but instead listing whole directories on some accounts. That means private and personal data was exposed. So apart from removing ads and fixing links I also have to check everything for accidentaly included stuff. What really pisses me off about it is that I mailed PQ when I noticed and the answer was "nah, we never had ASP support"...

underworldfan will officially be at Quaddicted. We had some conversation a while back, I should resurrect that. 

Those are good mirrors!

I am so damn unorganised... Found 3 different mirror directories on my harddisks. 

I am so damn unorganised..

Aren't you German or what ? 

http://www.quakeone.com/navigator/

And heavily revised to increase the ease of finding resources and far more complete than before.

/places info here rather than starting new thread. 

I would have thought GA rather than here (or mebe a news post, less worthy stuff gets news'd tbh).

One thing tho, some of those links are hinting the IGN/GS bullshit "this page is down for maintenance" error page they use for content they stopped hosting... 

It's not news worthy, just updating a resource that helps people find things.

I don't believe the new version has any PlanetQuake links in it so that message shouldn't be possible but then again maybe I need to double check some of the links. 

Heh, just blind luck then. Only one I clicked was the console commands (iirc) and got the dead page page. 

You're right!

I blew it. 

Have started popping up on a daily basis 

are they something like "too many connections?" If so, that seems to be a random occurrence based on server load. 

Were due to the mail server hoarding connections like crazy. It should not happen again, if it does, please let me know. 

thanks! 

Map-Center appears to be down :( 

and it's that same stock-photo girl that haunts every lost domain, it seems. 

Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Too many connections in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 9 

just now? 

about 3 hrs ago 

actually! 

upped the maximum number of connections, again, let me know if it happens again. 

Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Too many connections in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 9

Maybe func has to make less/better queries? 

That's really odd, right now there are ~30 open connections, mostly pooled connections that apache reuses and a few ones from the mail server. The upper connection limit is 150, so I'd say there's plenty of headroom... 

Apparently this forum software doesn't do cyrillic. If you go to www.translit.ru, write some text and then copy/paste it into func's post form, it will look right in the form, but previewing or posting it will result in junk. 

i think there's some encoding thing i need to add to the HTML header, which i never really figured out. (some people see gibberish instead of certain symbols like the em dash, and some accented latin characters.) 

Try <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />. Might not work as func converts some stuff to HTML entities (understandably as PHP sucks for Unicode afaik).

PS: Great "..." placement here, remove those if you copy'n'paste. ;) 

Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Too many connections in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 9 

http://www.phpwact.org/php/i18n/utf-8

But of course you also need to take care of the db, the db connection, etc. 

i just got it again in like a month

piice 

Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Too many connections in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 9 

Fucking mail server - it's not doing ANYTHING, why is it hogging my database! 

my new Nokia N900 phone. Holy shit the browser on this thing rocks. 

my new Nokia N900 phone. Holy shit the browser on this thing rocks. 

HA! 

 

I'd like to have a "Show last previous n posts, too" button that just lowers the start post id by n. I find myself going back and forth between previous page and new posts a lot for reference (or rather, I mostly just go back one page and cut off the end param). The new button would allow for exactly that, having the referenced post on the same page as the answers. 

yeah, that makes sense. I sometimes find myself doing the same thing (actually what i do is hit "previous" and then "last", but my goal is the same.) 

that'd be pretty cool. usually i manage by manually changing the number where it says "start=####" in the address bar, but a button would make things quicker. 

Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Too many connections in /home/johnfitz/sites/www.celephais.net/board/_database.php on line 9 

these errors should now be a thing of the past. Let's hope. 

Yeah, here's hoping it goes away, thank you! 

ERROR: Error message number 42 

it said? When? Where? 

pulling my leg 

that's an intentionally cryptic message i put in to try to keep spambots out; it means the IP address you submitted from is different than the one you loaded the page from. I had hoped it would never affect users, but I guess certain proxies or firewalls can cause it to get tripped. I actually get that sometimes at work, and my workaround is to "preview" and then submit.

Perhaps i need to relax or remove that restriction if it's causing people trouble. 

 

moderators need to be able to choose which thread to re-post rejected news submissions to. 

 

Some sort of spam bot is shitting up the news threads. FYI. 

or a spam-human (like a spambot but composed of flesh.)

I'll flag them in the database when i get home (still need to add spam flagging to the moderator UI) 

Spam flagged.

However looking at the timestamps, some are only about 10 seconds apart, so it probably is a bot and not a human. So I guess I need to beef up my spambot defenses again, if this bot figured out how to get through. 

I'd suggest to be wary if they enter e-mail addresses as their username. 

 

You want to reward someone for spamming a forum?

Not being obtuse, just don't know what you mean. 

This is spam, just search for the first line. He links to a site in his profile. 

hmm, indeed it is. Though his site is at least gaming-related, but yeah, the google matches, plus the profile link, plus the fact that the content of the post is full of keywords he wants to link to his site make it clear. 

one thing i haven't really figured out how to deal with is spammers using user profiles to post URLs. The posts themselves are easily flagged, but i guess i need to add some way to flag a user account as "spam account". 

Believe it or not... but that's pretty convincing spam.

It was suspiciously well worded for the content though. 

i just went to that forum and it's like 99% posts by that guy in otherwise empty threads. I guess he's just launching it or something, heh. 

if you enter a HTML entity and preview the post, the textfield will contain the entity as actual HTML while the rendered preview above shows the characters (as does the board if you submit)

totally irrelevant but hey 

I abuse that all the time, if you preview a second time then it turns into the character you need in both places. It's very handy to create non-breaking spaces for putting indentation into code snippets or adding bulletpoints... 

I agree that the ability to officially use entities would be great. Your trick seems not to work for them all. &#9829; 

 

Don't tempt me. 

I was seeing "server not found" for about 15 minutes when trying to access anything on celephais.net, stopped being broken just a few minutes ago. 

 

[i]test[/i] 

http://www.celephais.net/board/faq.php 

this is mainly for the news archives, but would be nice for thread archive too:
could we get a toggleable button on the archive pages that switches between sorting threads by most recent post and original post date?

sock has been bumping a bunch of old release threads (and this isn't a complaint against that, by all means, keep commenting on the maps, you are playing as it's very informative and interesting). now i've lost track of the newest releases and i'm not sure but i think i had queued a couple of the newest ones to play but hadn't downloaded them yet.

would this be a hard feature to implement? 

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_all_news.php is sorted by creation date. 

so the real problem is that i'm just dumb then. :P thanks, lol. 

 

forgot to fix the spam last night. 

metl:

either im tripping crazy balls here, or I have some crazy spyware or you have placed a small add occasionally into your pages? 

I am sure he did not, so be more specific and we might be able to help you. 

well, sometimes, this happens:

http://www.mediafire.com/?2oakqmd2zzy

I think I might be infected with something. 

...

That's much worse. 

run spybot or malware malybtes. If they dont work, run combofix as a last resort. 

there are no ads on func, must be you have some spyware or ISP proxy or something like that which inserts ads. 

testing new spam protection... 

czg 1105 

I can't seem to be able to login to func_ and change my profile. Got a new blog up at http://debrisland.wordpress.com/ and want to add it. 

if you forgot your password, does the "email me" feature work for you? 

I don't have that e-mail anymore. If you could hook me up at biffdebris@charter.net it would be righteous. 

Seriously, the IP display is scary. Couldn't you replace it with some simple hashes? That way one could still notice when someone fakes or comes back but it would not be such a privacy issue. 

as most forums do

(not that it bothers me, like) 

Well... I guess it's there as a deterrent. Since anonymous abusers are not moderators, they won't see the display if it's moderator-only, which means there is no deterrent. If it's a hash they may not understand what it is -- therefore it's not a deterrent.

However, we could perhaps hide the IP on posts from logged-in users. That would solve the issue for regular users.

What are you afraid of, though? Being targetted for a DoS attack or something? 

I am not sure, I just feel uneasy. The IP makes it impossible to be truly pseudonymous in theory. In Germany you must not store IP addresses for privacy reasons. 

One new feature i'd like is a verbatim markup, but otherwise ... func's format is a big plus for me. 

Also, IP addresses have no benefit over hashes at all. 

though the legal specifcs appear to be unsettled, i think it might be safer just to disable IPs for now and wait a while and see if any court decisions clarify what is and isn't allowed. While IP addresses theoretically deter abuse, we don't see a huge amount of that type of abuse (anonymous posters pretending to be multiple people.) 

Plus, those ppl can easily be identified with hashes. 

or only show a part of it: metlslime [67.188.*.*] 

Spam protection still aint working propper :S 

(looks like same URL) 

in the monsters section for the rottfish; it says its attack is to "nipples" on your fat.

... did i miss a joke or somfin? 

This Chrome addon has no effect on func. 

Weird. 

the hell? :D 

now i want a crate for christmas ;/ 

this is kind of goofy, but it's been bugging me for a long long time...

one of the things i really missed from qmap was those randomly chosen post titles if you didn't type anything yourself.

'necros is still thinking of a title...' and such.

i just thought they were kind of funny. :) 

Necros's title got pwned by a feind.

Necros's title got transmitted to #terrafusion by mistake and never came back

Necros sold the title of this post for crack.

And occasionally:

Necros is a failure

Necros just had sex with Meg Fox.

etc. 

So I have no idea what he's talking about TBF. 

was func_msgboard before func_msgboard existed =) 

I just updated the way icons are rendered to reduce load times by having fewer http requests. (I'm now using a single image to store all icons.)

Let me know if you see any visual glitches from this change. There were some earlier tonight when I first uploaded, but they should be fixed now. 

I like how the stretched icons in the thread title are pixelated as before, and no longer blurred by Chrome.

The icon seems to be stuck at default in post preview, though. 

The icon seems to be stuck at default in post preview, though.

Ah, I guess i missed that one. Thanks. 

yeee the czg image still live!

:) look much more clean 

I like how the stretched icons in the thread title are pixelated as before, and no longer blurred by Chrome.

Oh yeah, that was a side effect of this change, i'm happy about it too. 

 

I've had a few instances of the site running really slow over the last few days, sometimes failing to load. Something known? 

i just saw the same thing but only in the last few hours. Seems to be fixed now, maybe SleewalkR knows what happened... 

I haven't noticed anything, nor have I changed anything on the server. Please keep an eye out and let me know if it happens again. 

site was completely unavailable for me (canada, ontario) but it cleared up maybe 3 hours ago? 

 

fov120.com was also slow to respond at the same time, so i assumed it was a server-wide problem. 

Quebec


??? 

northeast usa 

It was night time here so I didn't check. But the site was never slow for me. Keep posting if it happens again and I'll investigate. 

 

South America. 

 

 

it's probably firefox4 doing this: text box for messages are resizable? 

Another thing they stole from Chrome! 

I never noticed that.. 

So it is! Im usin' chrome..... 

That's not chrome, that's Webkit. All browser based on that have had resizable text boxes for years. 

I never noticed that those little handles in the corner meant something. 

Maybe moderators should be given the ability to flag posts as spam. 

It's on my todo list... Right now I have to edit the database which is dumb and I can't do it on vacation. Will take care of it when I get back. 

I'll be making a release for Duke3D fairly soon, is it suitable for me to make a news post about it here when that time comes? I thought I'd make sure being a Quake site and such, but I've seen a few HL related stuff before. 

I'm kind of surprised we don't have a radioactive icon, even though we have Unreal, HalfLife, Doom, Serious Sam, Sauerbraten/Cube and Daikatana icons. 

i never noticed about the lack of duke3d icon but now you mention it, yeah. duke3d was pretty ground breaking when it came out, even if it wasn't fully 3d. that whole super-interactive world thing for one. 

also, in reply to the actual question, yeah, a news post is fine. can't hurt! 

Chuck it onto the end of that silly duke thread I made. It'll be a nice counterpoint... 

 

Posted it up (atleast I hope so) and I guess its waiting in moderation right now. 

Can't remember if I requested this before, but I'd love it if the "people currently browsing" feature was in a more exposed place than the FAQ section. It'd be cool if it was maybe at the top or bottom on the main forums page. 

didn't even know about that feature. :P 

I've often thought it should maybe be on the "people" page, actually... 

an interesting statistic

...and 797 news threads, and 797 registered users. 

could you make long links break in the middle instead of at the end? eg www.longlink.com/asdasd...sderp.zip 

www.longlink.com/ asdasd...sderp.zip 

word-wrap: break-word; 

Good ideas. Some of these are on my todo list already. I didn't know about word-wrap: break-word; but i'll look into it. 

Could you include the abandoned workshops in the Quake Review Links list? 

http://spmapcorner.blogspot.com/ too 

I just updated celephais.net to use new DNS nameservers. I am now using mybind.com instead of everydns.net (which stopped being free.) It should be seamless for everyone, please let me know if something goes wrong. 

Ah okay, that explains why it redirected me to everydns.net earlier and I freaked out like "omg wtf happened to func???" 

seen on http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=3545&start=3589&end=3592 the view source is very strange, the in the commend is closed, but there's another one containing all the other posts? 

... the < i > in the comment ... 

I recently changed the posts to use <div> instead of <table> tags. I think this enabled unclosed < i > tags to travel farther... seems that when inside a table cell, the damage is limited. But inside a div, it's not. 

 

 

Here's a test.

quote bold italic strikethrough underline

quote bold italic strikethrough underline 

Part two of the test? Part two of the test. 

 

Did it jus't double a single quote? 

 

 

 

On the Account page, when the passwords don't match, the popup says Both passwords must mat... 

unless metl just fixed it. :P (firefox 8) 

Go fix celephais.net already! 

+1 

I have no idea what happened to the DNS servers, but since I am on vacation I couldn't log into mybind.com. Luckily I remembered my registrar password so I switched to a new DNS server. Should refresh "soon" for everyone, or they can clear their DNS cache on their local machine. (run "ipconfig /flushdns" on windows machines.)

Sorry about that! 

And have a nice vacation! 

Yay... Except it seems that www. still doesn't work... Will have to work o that when I get home. 

I don't know a *lot* about DNS, but it looked like mybind.com decided it wasn't authoritative for celephais.net any more. 

www.celephais.net is now fixed.

Still never figured out what happened with mybind (i logged in just now and everything looks the same as it always looked) but the new DNS provider seems to be working so i won't worry about it. 

that had a list of all users currently online at the bottom of the page. Possible? 

http://www.celephais.net/board/faq.php and I consider it a privacy problem. 

But I also wonder why everyone is such a privacy hypochondriac nowadays. OMG someone can see that I was using the internet! THE IMPLICATIONS!

Yeah I realize that privacy is important. Just not everywhere. 

The preview function is great but when I'm previewing a post, there doesn't seem to be a way to verify which thread I'm currently posting in!?

The thread title could be displayed somewhere on the preview page. 

for the preview, it would be nice if the previewed post appeared exactly the way it would look if you had posted, so if there were 4 previous posts above and you preview a post, it'd show those 4 plus your own. 

dont need it, was just cool IMHO.

And I dont really see the privacy issue. But its not a big deal. 

I keep detailed records with my detail equipment. 

What about a "mark all threads read" button for registered users? 

good idea... you getting behind on your reading? 

Is there anything you can do to stop me getting logged out? I use lots of computers at home and work and at home I switch between a bunch of OSs too, so I am always getting logged out. Is there any way to keep the cookie or whatever valid on all machines or do I have to save password for this site? (I have that disabled normally so it only just occured to me) 

sounds like your browser are configured to delete the cookie. 

Isn't the FAQ wrong? Func doesn't need the referer, it's only looking for the cookie. 

yeah, i stopped needing the http_referer a while ago. forgot to update the FAQ.

regarding getting logged out, the cookie should last for about 2 weeks* from your last visit. So as long as you visit every 2 weeks with a specific device, you will stay logged in on that device.

*can't remember if it's exactly 2 weeks, but it's something like that 

Shouldn't logging out lead you to the main forum index instead of a blank page? 

logging in/out should just keep you on the same page (but it refreshes to indicate the new login state.)

I guess that feature does rely on the referrer, so if it's blank you won't go anywhere. 

With either Firefox or Opera. Just redirects me to the main site, cookie is set. 

FireFox works for me. Just FYI... 

Like internet explorer.

Anyway, Metl, is there anyway to stop these spam news submissions?? I'm having to reject them daily.

They're all signed with linseo34563blog (with varying numbers) so could you auto-reject linseo*****blog? 

a simple captcha? 

There's one captcha that just asks you a simple math question to prove that you're human (like, what's 8 + 3?). Those are WAY less annoying than the impossible to read text based ones, IMO. 

Bots might learn to decode a captcha, but never a "8 + 3" question. 

the math captchas are nice, or some simple Quake-related questions. 

 

Captchas might not prevent this kind of spam, humans are cheap to rent over the internet. 

Well, humans won't be stopped no matter what so there's no point worrying about that. But if you can give the bots a few stumbling blocks it would seem worth it. 

if the question is Quake specific, I doubt that hired humans will be able to answer correctly. 

i might see if i can do a better job of blocking bots, but my guiding principle has been to make it easier for users, even though it makes it harder for moderators. So a captcha would make moderation easier but posting a news thread for users less easy.

Right now there's some simple javascript that you need to run in your browser to post, the original idea was that bots wouldn't execute it. If these are posted by bots, it must mean the bots are evaluating the javascript. So maybe i need to make it more complicated than just simple javascript. 

The link to Tronyn's reviews at Quaddicted is wrong, it should be http://www.quaddicted.com/tronyn-reviews/ 

opening italics in post #5894, closing in #10778 in General Abuse 

Not sure if the other moderators have dealt with any. It's the same linseo****blog bollox, I think that should be blocked. 

i'll look at it tonight, if it's all one IP it should be easy to block. 

thanks for the report, it appears the problem is unclosed uppercase tags don't get closed correctly (my code was only scanning for unclosed lowercase tags.) Will fix soon. 

I can't get the RSS feed to load, is it down for everyone or is it something with just my machine? 

seems like there is a problem with the (R) symbol in the second news story (fruitz of dojo post.) I wonder if i need to do something to correctly HTML-encode symbols like that. 

Recently I started Q1 modelling and found it hard work trying to track down all the resources for my project. I read through the modelling thread here which was full of really cool information but it could have been summarized into a sticky top post.

Is there any plans of implementing a knowledge thread about certain core subjects? (qc, coding, skins, modelling, entities etc) Like they only contains core stuff and not the pages of fluff that often is the case with some of the threads here. 

if i understand correctly, you're talking about how at the top of a thread, there is a regularly-updated "super-post" that contains all of the best info from all the other posts in the thread?

I'm not sure about that since it requires a lot of human labor, but it might be a good idea to be able to flag posts as "informative" and then have a filter view where you see only the informative posts from the thread. 

would certainly be a good idea because there is some awesome information already in the threads, just they are buried. If you can flag good content then at least it would make a super post of information. 

here, or i'm just to dumb to find?
Would save some questions ^^ 

google does a pretty decent job tbh. never really missed having a search here. 

quaddicted is partially a wiki nowadays, pages like that would be very welcome. put them into /tools/ I guess.

eg http://www.quaddicted.com/tools/map_compilers 

What you want is a wiki. 

Yeah, just add site:celephais.net/board to your search term and there you go. Of course you can also open the whole thread and do a browser search if it's in Mapping Help, for example. 

nice tipp negke, thx!

A general wiki about Quake (1-3A) editing would be nais.
Much information about such stuff (advanced compilers & their switches, editors, entities) is scattered throughout the net, imo it would make sense to collect it in such a place. 

http://quake.wikia.com/ maybe? 

http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/Grand_Theft_Wiki:Move_from_Wikia 

haven't checked it out though. If its a genuinely bad layout and awkward to use people will prefer a better one.

The reasoning laid out sounds more like a personal fued. Which is fine, although the reasoning sounds a bit naive. 

why would you let a company make money off your work? 

 

But it's a fine line, and I haven't investigated the thing. 

Func is free!
Quaddicted is free!
Oh wait, you are all being sold!

Your mod will be free right?
All those hours.

If one cares, one invests time and money into providing something to others for free. 

And often you yourself get a benefit off it too. God, I hated having to use Fileplanet and other "login and wait 2 minutes" money-makers for map downloads...

Oh look, all the ad-supported hosted sites on Planetquake.com were deleted. Oops! Who tells you Wikia gives a fuck about your content if it is not profitable?

Disclaimer: I am one of those Archiveteam zealots. 

How about an approval process for discussion threads, just as there is for news threads? 

as well as getting rid of spam threads, it means we hopefully won't get any shitstorms like that fiend mod/cyst popping palava. Considering how strict the rules supposedly are for discussion threads, it seems odd that there is literally no restrictions on posting them. 

What kind of forum would that be...

The moderators simply need more power - an option to mark posts as spam and delete (or hide) threads. This shouldn't be hard to implement. 

What kind of forum would that be...

One without (X) Deleted threads! 

Moderated new threads with options to Publish / Reject into Thread X/y/z / Reject as spam, would seem sensible to me. It would mean a slight delay to threads but since they are supposed to be long term discussion threads I think that would be okay? 

Up the number of sticky threads to be a nice round 10? To have some more useful stickies so that people can get their questions answered more readily...

How about:

Modding/coding help.
Custom engine help.
Modelling help/screenshots/etc.

??? 

Potentially, it would reduce the incentive to create a discussion thread even more. The "slight" delay may easily be several hours, judging from how the approval of news threads works at the moment (either in the morning or the evening func-time, rarely in between).

The current amount of spam certainly doesn't justify such drastic measures, in my view. 

- coding help
- modelling help
- "other games"

Note: I still think the current separation of "other PC games" from "other console games" is retarded considering that most of the games talked about in the PC thread are just bloody console ports anyway. 

I think my first step will be adding moderator powers, without requiring approval (so threads are instantly live, but moderators can close them.) 

The most reasonable. 

 

Only reason I gave up moderation power was because I couldn't delete all of Shambler's threads and posts, so I agree. 

moderators have a couple of new powers now.

1. when editing a thread, you can change status between three choices: "normal", "closed", and "censored". Closed threads are still visible to the public but don't accept new posts. Censored threads are completely hidden (but not deleted from the database.)

Our policy should be to censor spam threads (i.e. spambots posting google bait) and to censor duplicate threads (e.g. user posted identical info into two threads by accident, or created both a news and a discission thread because they were uncertain.) If a thread is not spam or dupe, but just misguided (e.g. it should have been posted to mapping help,) then we should post a non-snarky explanation of why, and close it, so they (and others) can learn from their mistake. We shouldn't be deleting title/body of the thread when closing it, because that confuses people, since they won't know which thread it is anymore.

2. When viewing posts, there is now a tiny link next to the byline of each post that says "spam" -- if you click it it will flag it as spam, and then there will be a link that says "unflag" in case you made a mistake. These links us AJAX to update the page without reloading it, it has worked for me for several months but let me know if you find bugs with this feature.

Policy: only flag posts that are really spam, not just because they are annoying. 

Makes sense, will use carefully. 

or did you change the background color? 

no change to the background, must be something on your end 

reboot did the trick 

don't forget to change spam threads to "censored" instead of "closed" -- closed threads are still visible. 

will do it right from now on. 

 

&#4314;(&#3232;&#30410;&#3232;&#4314;) 

Was trying for this: http://www.blameitonthevoices.com/2011/02/y-u-no-emoticon.html

No support for Japanese (?) characters?

Mark the above posts as spam please ;) 

i don't really have a very good system for handling charsets... i think the server is set to Western European or something, the html don't include a charset, there's occasional bugs with weird characters breaking the RSS feed (em dash, copyright symbol, trademark symbol, zertstorer O with the umlaut on it. These don't seem to be causing much of a problem for us so I haven't really investigated what I would need to do to encode everything correctly. 

you are using htmlspecialcharacters after htmlentities I guess. 

Ban / auto-reject anything from linseo****blog 

It's really getting to be annoying. 

I think the time has come, because now they keep spamming the news threads (thus fucking up their order). 

unflagging ijed's spam posts because there's code that blocks any IP from posting that was once the source of a spam post... 

i'm working on a feature to flag spam accounts, which will help because the current wave of spam is all from registered users (all the linseoblog guys.) I have already flagged the accounts in the database, now i will need to add code to block a new post/thread if it is coming through a spam account. Should be comming soon. 

That will definitely help as 90% of it seems to be that linseobollox. 

News and discussion threads in the full lists are ordered by date of creation. Only the "last 10 threads" are affected by (spam) bumping. 

That's where it annoys me the most, since I never visit the full lists or news page. 

this should work 

accounts flagged as spam accounts are now blocked from creating posts/threads. This is only effective if the spammer is logged in and I have flagged the account. Lineseoblog accounts have all been flagged. Let's see what happens. 

xxx 

failed 

I just tried to replace my name by 'Lineseoblog'.. that does not work :P

sorry... 

failed ?? 

if not logged he can post: maybe the IP address could be alos flag as spammer... Can it work this way too ? 

IP flagging was already a feature. 

:) 

Allow "sort by last post" on the archive pages. 

How to save to pc these "angry" and "neutral" icons? every time i got an empty files clear.gif 

Icons are all tiled together into a single image, view source and you'll see it. 

i see,

not my way though 

metl, I'm assuming you wrote all the php for the board? 

yeah, it's all custom code i wrote back in 2002 (with some tweaks over the years.) 

Somehow I managed to post with unclosed html tags: http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=1&start=22216&end=22217

Not sure how, the last word is missing the </i> 

weird, i thought i fixed this bug for good last time... I'll look into it. 

 

 

 

 

Hitting refresh now causes a double post... 

Hitting refresh now causes a double post... 

 

whoa really? 

doesn't seem to do so on Firefox 

Chrome then.. 

Making a post that is. 

on firefox 19 

could you make the "All XXXX, Last 25, New XX" bit not get split up by text wrapping? 

test 

All the recent double posts make me wonder if some browser stopped warning on resending post data on a refresh.

Opera does not seem to resend at all which of course is desirable.

Let's see: 

durr 

I am a good browser, I prompt. 

derp 

I behave like Opera, not resending, not prompting. 

The conclusion is that people are using Internet Explorer 4.0

Weird. Make gamma rays or moon phases? 

As I stated before, Chrome. 

! 

! 

that was chrome, but it prompted first. don't know why i clicked yes 

metl, could you make an anchor in view_thread.php right after the top-most pagination before the first rendered post? And then point to that in "New X" links.

Would save at least 42 milliseconds of scrolling whenever one visits posts with long main posts. ;) 

Test 

Test in Chrome 

So Firefox (and every other browser once upon a time) lets you refresh without posting, Chrome offers to resubmit the form. I'm not sure why it offers that, since i use a redirect to help clear out the form data (so that people can refresh the page without worries.) Chrome is just too clever; I guess i'll need to find another way. 

It's amazing and sad how many people seem to click yes without thinking though. I hope they don't do that for java applets. 

Is to store a magic value in the session and in a hidden form field. On submit, the session value is removed. If the session value is missing, nothing gets posted. 

That is. 

Or manually kill the $POST vars after submission maybe.... ? 

It's amazing and sad how many people seem to click yes without thinking though. I hope they don't do that for java applets.
To be fair, that's what happens when too many things ask too many stupid questions. You condition people to click YES out of reflex. 

You may already have tried this, or already have this. But, try putting "exit;" after your header("Location: ") redirect. 

Can't post anywhere 

 

not sure why it can happen, but this means you loaded the page with one IP address, but when you submitted your post you had a different IP.

Maybe it happens on mobile phones more because they can change networks frequently? (edge <-> 3g <-> wifi) 

I understand. I'm at home where I'm in my wifi, but sometimes it switches to mobile broadband for some reason. Thanks! 

i can see how that might help, as my php still generates the entire page after you post.

I wonder if chrome is ignoring the redirect because it's the same URL? In that case i could use a second URL as the post target and then redirect back to view_thread.php. 

Seems it's a chrome bug: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=177855&q=reload&colspec=ID%20Pri%20Mstone%20ReleaseBlock%20OS%20Area%20Feature%20Status%20Owner%20Summary

Will be fixed soon judging by my skim of that report. 

i'll just do nothing then :)

(though adding an "exit" to my php after the redirect still sounds like a good idea to save server resources) 

Although it's a bug and that it's being addressed, it's still too late.

Not many people will bother to upgrade their Chrome to latest version--we've seen that habit with IE users.

Simply adding several lines of javascript, and you'll be able to convert your "Post A Reply" < form > to use Ajax.

By looking at your HTML code, I can see that you are using javascript without any libraries such as mootools, jquery, etc. -- which is fine, you can still do ajax with plain javascript.

---

Just adjust your HTML slightly by adding an ID to the <td> that holds the "Post A Reply" form html.
Currently it is:
< td bgcolor="#333333" width="500" valign="top" >
< span class="header2">Post A Reply:</span >
...
< /td >

Change the < td > to have id="post-a-reply"
So, you then have < td bgcolor="#333333" width="500" valign="top" id="post-a-reply" >

Then, the javascript would be:

On submit:

var xmlhttp;
if (window.XMLHttpRequest) { // code for IE7+, Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari
xmlhttp=new XMLHttpRequest();
}
else { // code for IE6, IE5
xmlhttp=new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP");
}
xmlhttp.onreadystatechange = function() {
if (xmlhttp.readyState==4 && xmlhttp.status==200) {
document.getElementById("post-a-reply").innerHTML = xmlhttp.responseText;
}
}
xmlhttp.open("POST","http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=2&start=1676&ajax=1",true);
xmlhttp.send();

---

Notice I added another parameter "&ajax=1" to the submit URL, and you can use that in PHP to spit out a specific response for the update to the < td >, rather spit the entire page as if there was no ajax.

Obviously the "id=2&start=1676" part is dynamic, of course. 

Hmm, that one line got garbled. It changed my quotation character to "&quo..." Let's try again:

xmlhttp.open("POST", "http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=2&start=1676&ajax=1" ,true);


Ahhh, whatever. 

Chrome updates automatically. 

Deqer, this is a veey change-averse group ;-) 

Still doesn't hurt to add some ajax to the site. Ajax has been available and supported for 10+ years now. Saves on resources, too.

It's 2013. Get with it. 

Please don't. Javascript is bloody annoying. 

Please don't, and it's not necessary at all. You can protect against double posts entirely on the server. 

Please don't. Javascript is bloody annoying.

uhm.. javascript is used already? 

I do have plans for ajax, in fact it's already used for the "flag spam" feature that moderators have. But this site is not my active project right now (aside from necessary maintenance.)And don't worry, I would only use it for enhancements that make sense for the design of the site. 

Yeah, better not let a stranger like me tell you how to improve your outdated website. Best you figure it out on your own. Maybe another 10 years, and you'll come around. 

if you are not listening to the many people who give you helpful advice, then why should they listen to you. 

He's gone critical! He's gonna blow!

I knew it wouldn't last. Awesome. 

Welcome to the OLD SKOOL!!! 

Thanks for the lesson in AJAX btw. Seriously. That looks like useful info for a cat like me (deadly serious), please re-post the truncated line again, just add a space after .celephais.net/board . 

ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLH...  

If you could use some fancy javascript/ajax/jibberty-jello magic to make it so Deqer's posts are ignored that would be great thanks :) 

Or just install vBulletin.

*ducks* 

 

A link to display all posts from within a thread. I know it can be done by clicking on the title, but it's not very transparent and, well, I keep forgetting. Would fit well with the current navigation: All | First | Previous | Next | Last. 

For the crown Kinn. 

test test 

test test 

repro on double posting in Firefox:

Write post.

Press Preview.

Hit submit rapidly on the preview page. 

@metlslime: how hard do you think it might be to make func an OpenID provider, so that we could use our func_msgboard accounts to log into other sites? Then people could use their func personas to post comments on my site (instead of creating a local login) or possibly quakewiki.org could hook into it as well? 

I don't know, I actually have never looked into it. 

ERROR: Error message number 42
when i tried to submit a post? 

Usually happens on smartphones when they switch from Wifi to Cellular or vice versa. 

ah ok, i was at work. :)
if it's caused by that, shouldn't the error just say that instead? error 42 is very cryptic. 

 

from Hitchhiker's Guide. 

Looks like the Lvl post broke the RSS feed. :D 

 

utf8_encode($foo);

Im my PHP CMS. 

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=1&start=22774&end=22774

Please unflag that post, I believe it banned my ip from posting (posting from anonymouse.org) 

I am assuming that is why I keep getting 'Error 71' every time I attempt to post, logged in or not, and why I CAN post from a proxy. 

Unflagged.

I can't remember for sure but i think if a registered account is associated with a flagged post, it blocks that account from posting. 

maybe it is IP-based. Can't remember and i don't have the source code in front of me right now. 

thanks 

I emailed you last night regarding this since I hadn't thought of anonymous proxy browsing to post, and hadn't thought that SOMEONEbler may have flagged one of my posts. So you can ignore that email (assuming the washington.edu email you have posted all over the site is still valid for you) 

That's all. 

 

! 

my english just awful

dammit 

Or at least can I flag his trolls as spam?

Having successfully lured sock into making awesome Q1 SP maps, it's unpleasant that his patience and professionalism is being tested by some puerile little twat who needs a good dose of STFU... 

I don't want to use spam tools to fight trolls. We can just argue with or ignore trolls like we always have. 

Func was down for about a day just now...this was due to SleepwalkR moving celephais.net to a new server. I have now updated the DNS and SleepwalkR fixed a configuration issue and it appears everything is back to normal. 

All good for me, DNS was down yesterday.

A few messages weren't marked as read but that was from the previous site. 

xxx 

have you considered using captcha for anonymous posts? Don't use it for register users, just anyone who posts without an account. I don't think there is much harm to free discussion and offers at least a little protection from spam 

i think we (moderators) are doing a pretty good job of flagging spam as it appears. The only thing that still bothers me is that spam posts are counted as "new posts" so you might visit a thread marked "new 1" and not find any legit new posts. And the other issue is that the spam posts are still displayed in the thread view isntead of completely hidden.

I don't want to fix the second problem without fixing the first (otherwise it would be really confusing to see "new 1" and then click and see zero posts.) 

can I be a mod again? 

HTH. 

Post title capitalization does not work when symbols are before characters, eg a quote. I'd vote for leaving titles alone in any case though. 

could someone please delete my recent posts in the general abuse thread? XD

sorry for that 

your inanities will be visible to others throughout the ages. 

http://31.media.tumblr.com/3a6564a82a490181de07cff7855ec7b1/tumblr_mmogy0OM8I1sqdb5ho1_500.png 

 

[16:10] <ShamblR> wtf is up with func?
[16:10] <ShamblR> i've cleared my cache and cookies and flushed dns
[16:10] <ShamblR> still same message
[16:11] <@Scampie> ShamblR: Daz was saying he still had it a few days ago
[16:11] <@Scampie> my dns was updated right off
[16:12] <ShamblR> weird
[16:12] <Daz_> func_ is fine for me atm, but occasionally it will go back to the "old" func
[16:12] <ShamblR> it updated on my laptop but not on my desktop
[16:13] <ShamblR> anything else i can do to refresh it? 

in case it wasn't clear, they get the message about servers moving and DNS 

for blambler maybe the hosts file? 

Can't offer an explanation, but something that might be worth testing: try using 8.8.8.8 as your DNS server (it's the google DNS) when it occurs, and see if that helps. 

I had the old ip in my local hosts file due to some ancient stuff up so other people might have done that too? 

might have been when the dns was busted the time before. i recall someone had said to just access the board with the ip address. 

:( 

I'm unable to access the full users list. The nofilter=1 thing seems broken in FF24. 

seems broken in chrome 30 as well 

weird, i'll check it out 

Sometime in recent history, "register_globals" was set to false in the server configuration. This is a good thing because it's more secure now, but the side effect is it broke some code on the people page. Code has been fixed. 

Thought so. The setting was changed when we moved to the new server. 

It might be worth highlight new records in a different color?
http://s019.radikal.ru/i627/1310/a0/4255a50a93d0.png 

actually i had some vague plans to highlight those links more, eventually. 

How about fields under the title? With a couple of other quantity options - people have mentioned those in the past. 

Basically proposing to make the vertical scroll distance double :P 

Single rows are much easier to scan over. 

 

http://i.imgur.com/RvMRGi4.png 

actually that's close to what i was picturing, yeah. 

 

Another feature request: it'd be nice to have a button 'last 25' inside the normal thread view as well.

Normally I click the 'new X' button, ready the new comments, don't know what they're talking about or want to clarify a point, so have to go back out, click last 25 and return to thread.

Having the button inside the thread as well would close that loop. 

It would probably look like:

First Previous Next Last Last 25

At the end of each thread. 

yeah, that would be nice. currently, i just edit the url to point 10 or 20 back. 

When you preview a post containing backslashes, the backslashes get stripped. Doubling up a backslash means a single backslash appears in the preview (and the submission text). Submitting a post with doubled-up backslashes creates a post with doubled-up backslashes. Seems like something odd is going on with the previewer? 

RECURSIVE ERROR:
Error 1: Can't connect to database.
Error 2: SQL error 1040 on line 98 of _user.php.
This problem usually goes away if you refresh the page (but feel free to tell metlslime about the specific error you just got, since I'm curious about why this happens.

And it's slow to load pages just now. 

 

Ahh... SQL error 1040 is "too many connections" so I guess it was just too busy. 

There was a DoS. 

Could you put a link in the sticky OP on how to do things like making working links and such? A quick search didn't do me any good. 

it's in the FAQ but I could make it more prominent I guess 

Thanks. 

All the images in /levels/rubicon2/ are broken. 

Thanks, this is fixed now. It was another place in my code where I was relying on the "register_globals" setting. 

QuakeDev is gone, PQ hasn't been updated since August 2012, and Besmella redirects to Quakeworld.nu. Also, a link to http://quakewiki.org/ would be nice. 

 

 

TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_TEST_

Testing long words -- instead of chopping them and adding a "..." at the end, i now set the CSS property overflow=auto to add a scroll bar. 

man that is ugly.

but at least people can read long strings. 

would be better than that scroll bar 

make shortened words clickable, and a click on them expands them, showing the scrollbar. Because yeah: ugly. 

I'll try to come up with something better, when i have more time to work on it.

Usually long strings with no spaces are things like source code, urls, etc. where adding a space could invalidate the content. So i have to keep that in mind. 

the html on the front page atm seems borked. Giant black segment running down the side that seems to be caused by links in a news item. 

i don't see it, what browser are you using? 

 

on my phone. But only when I logged in on my pc did I realise what this meant, this is hella ugly having a giant scroll bar. The Rage thread is fucked on my pc. 

I would rather just extend the long words to break out of the layout. looks like ass too but is much more user friendly imo, especially on small screens.

but isn't there some css3 stuff that might allow hard hyphenation? been a while since I looked. 

latest version of chrome on windows. 

http://imgur.com/kO36obR 

looks like setting "word-wrap:break-word;" might do the trick. It does word wrapping like normal, but also breaks single words that are too long to fit on a line. 

followed ericw's suggestion and I am now using word-wrap:break-word; ... seems to work! 

Safari 7: http://www.quaketastic.com/files/misc/funcwrap.png 

Yeah, I get the same breakage on http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=60984 in chrome 32 and safari 7.

I played around with the browsers a bit, and adding "word-break: break-word;" in addition to the word-wrap setting seems to fix chrome/safari, and not mess up firefox. That seems to be a nonstandard/undocumented value for "word-break" though, whereas the "word-wrap" setting is at least documented in http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-text/#overflow-wrap-property :-/ 

Okay, seems I'll need to add word break and over flow wrap to cover all browsers and all versions of the standard. 

added "word-break: break-word;" -- tested on my iPad and it seems to solve the problem. 

Some links on the site will redirect me to this other website with a chrome warning :o

In Digs post here http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=60996&start=75 his link sends me to http://www.otrs.com/solutions/managed-otrs/account-unavailable/?id=60996&start=17

Witchcraft! 

You're infected, bro. 

is that the hosting company that hosts fov120.com (and therefore celephais.net) server? 

Is there a thread about Worldcraft 3.3 or for the Quake adapter that Baker made, in Func? I think i saw it, but can't find it after manual and automatic searchs 

i didn't find any either. i know there was a guide at one point but i have no idea even on who made it. 

Maybe this: http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=47175 

That's probably the one. Thanks.

Maybe the title should be changed ... but there is more than just Quake adapter in that thread. 

There's this SSL bug security flaw thing the web is freaking out about. Does it apply to this site in any way? Cause I've been getting messages to change my passwords everywhere. :| 

 

Nothing to worry about here, this site doesn't use SSL at all and your passwords are sent as plaintext whenever you first log in :)

(after that they are sent as MD5 hashes for each page request) 

#1754 is in! 

 

Like, visually flashing, not coded in flash. 

it's a bit much...

http://i62.tinypic.com/30skor4.jpg instead? 

 

 

Can we please have a "mark all threads as read" option? 

i will try toning it down soon. I agree it went from too subtle to too eye-catching. 

Could we get a "permalink" style feature, where the # mark next to the post number links to that post in isolation like #. Or is that secretly google indexing poison? 

Why not make all strings beginning with a # into links leading to said post? Like how linking to issues on Github works. 

Great ideas! Only numbers, not strings of course. Maybe some special syntax to denote start AND end would be needed though. Simply "#12-34"?

Func could use some SEO I think. How about using a noindex meta tag on all thread pages that are not using a start index divisible by 25 (or what the pagination post count is for visitors)? And a ref nofollow on those internal links within post bodies. 

the one here: http://www.celephais.net/board/faq.php

seems a bit confusing to me. 

Already figured it out. 

When you preview a post with '\' characters, they are stripped, but you can submit them just fine. 

hey cool, the [New #] links disappear when you hit back! 

They shouldn't unless the page gets refreshed. Normally when you hit back a cached version gets displayed. 

They disappear for me too. Not sure what the reason is but I like it. 

using Firefox 31 

I would love to get the

"News | Forum | People | FAQ | Links | Account | Log out"

at the bottom of the page as well. It kinda sucks to have to scroll all the way back up a long thread to navigate back to the forums.

Apologies if someone has asked for this before and it's been shot down. 

 

 

ctrl+home since forever 

alt + left arrow is "back" in most browsers (or apple + left arrow on macintosh) 

...which doesn't mean i won't do it, just, this is just a request for a hyperlink to go back, right? 

backspace also goes back! 

Although after posting, you're placed at the bottom of a forum thread after a page you probably don't want to back up over (the one with the post you just made typed out in the box). 

wait, not all people use mouse side buttons for back/forward? 

Seriously, what else are those side buttons for? 

For playing Diablo 3, as Jay Wilson said in 2008! 

Oh, yeah, those too. but backspace when it's touchpad time. 

basically what we're all saying is you have options 

Would help when on other devices, not PC. 

wait, not all people use mouse side buttons for back/forward?

I specifically have those keys set to do nothing in web browsers because I use them as push to talk keys in VOIP programs, and it's annoying as fuck to keep changing webpage while I'm talking to someone.

But that's a bit off topic.

Just because a shortcut exists doesn't mean you should not put links where they will be most useful. When I get to the bottom of the page is when I am likely to want links to other parts of the site. I don't think it would make the site's design look awful either. 

It's "a" shortcut ... there's, like, 8. 

No, not just a request for a link back. Most forums have some kind of way to navigate around the site at the bottom of the page since you're generally reading top to bottom. It's a usability thing.

Again, not a *huge* deal but it would be a nice thing to have if it's not a huge undertaking to implement it. 

Where can I read about the forum codes used here? Like how to do text urls, like I see everyone but me do. 

http://www.celephais.net/board/faq.php

See post no 2. 

How do I find stuff on this forum? Also there's no pm system or a way to look back at your own posts and stuff? 

 

site:celephais.net inurl:board 

Could look nicer if it were all moved onto a new line in such case.

http://i.minus.com/jbbShmgHJx8sZc.png 

Dare I imply that the real problem is that func_msgboard is only 512 pixels wide? 

 

Why is 512 desirable? As opposed to, say, 768? 

It's easier to read short lines of text, the reason magazines and newspapers divide their text into columns.

Nowadays you can use css media queries to blow up the font and width when the window is beyond a certain res. Resolutions keep going up and all... 

it was designed 12 years ago and only slightly modified since. 

Clearly because it is a power of 2. 

Could "All 0" be highlighted to make new threads more visible? 

I have a similar idea, i would just have "New" appear without a number, if you've never seen the thread before.

I just need to figure out a way to distinguish the two in data, which i have an idea for. 

Semi-annual feature request reminder: "Mark all posts as read" link. 

I came here to say that the [New] buttons look different, and I got surprised by new typefaces! 

Seems like it's just Chrome... 

looks like whatever firefox thing was making the new labels disappear with the back button is gone now and the labels stay until you refresh........ 

I think a majority of double posts could be prevented if there was a slow cooldown (i.e. 30 seconds) on the submit function. 

Going from post page to submit keeps backslashes as usual, but on the preview page they are treated as escape characters and one layer is stripped away.

It's cool tho, I can dig it. 

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=2&start=1814&end=1814

read it and weep 

 

rename it to "Last 10 necroed 2008 threads" please? :D 

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=1&start=24926&end=24926 

test: http://google.com 

ah... you're right. 

display: inline-block; on New items link? The map jam 4 thread has the anchor element split onto a new line which looks weird since it has a background colour. 

I think what evey site needs is a button "top" on the left of the screen onec you have scrolled down a lot 

http://i58.tinypic.com/1z1dzdu.jpg ? 

I wonder what the HOME key(left of PgUp) does! 

that would require me to take my hand off the mouse, or move my left hand wayyyy over.

and i'm a lazy bum. 

devices dont always have keyboards. 

Yeah, on iOS you have to tap the status bar at the top of the screen to return to the top of the page. 

 

wow, good thing i didn't upgrade! 

The first tap opens the url bar, the second tap scrolls to top. 

Didn't know that, thanks. 

Using 'Preview' can sometimes mangle long urls it seems?

for example:
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61182&start=5

I pasted the same url for all 3 posts, but used 'preview' for the first 2 and my url got trashed. 

Ok, so when you preview, your post is getting output into the html without any escaping. Because your url included & followed by the word "quote", the browser parses that as the html entity for a quote, breaking the post. 

 

spammers..... 

I forgot my password, and tried to recover it. Does the recovery form work? I didn't appear to receive any e-mail in the address I've set for my account, and yes, I did check the spam folder.

It turned out I had stored my password in my pw database, so I didn't need to recover it after all. So I'm OK.

ust asking admins to check whether the thing is operational. (It could be just that it takes a while to send the mail too. In which case you should say that on the login page, I guess.) 

Didn't receive an email either. I'll check whether it's a server problem. 

looks like a case of using $REQUEST_METHOD instead of $_SERVER['REQUEST_METHOD'] 

fixed 

A 'trust rating' popup along the bottom of the forum now?

I'm guessing its some BS from somewhere else since AdBlock allows me to disable it, and describes it as an ad.

Celephais is 96% trustworthy. I'm glad I know that. J_J 

Check your addons or restore from an earlier backup 

I installed a dodgy mp4/avi converter that shit all over my hard drive :P 

Might be worth having a Linux install/vm around just for the luxury of ffmpeg. 

To finally sack windows.

No way I'll be 'upgrading' to Metro, that's for sure. 

This breaks something:
http://i.im[q][/q]gur.com/zJ3nqFt.jpg
replace [] with <>
gives
gur.com/zJ3nqFt.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/zJ3nqFt.jpg 

if you type c:\test, then hit preview, it gets turned into c:test
But if you just post, seems that no slashes are stripped 

What is error message #42? 

that means your IP address changed between viewing a thread and then posting a comment to it. Which a long time ago i assumed would only happen with spambots caching forms and resubmitting later, but i think nowadays happens if you are on a mobile phone and you switch networks (3G to wifi for example) 

From my PC - no idea why. 

some sort of proxy or DHCP thing maybe?

I can probably remove those error checks anyway, since it doesn't seem to be stopping spam. (of course maybe it is stopping some of it and we just don't know it.) 

Oh.

I typed a reply, closed my laptop, drove to work, opened it again and thought "oh" and tried to post it.

Makes sense!

No idea what ijed's doing. i blame south american internet. 

Since chrome gets steadily worse with each update, it now no longer recovers the posts if I press back :[ 

just added a hack to block the current wave of spams in general abuse thread. Testing to make sure anonymous posting still works :) 

 

so it seemed to work, i haven't seen a new spam by the same person since.

The thing i just realized though, is that spam countermeasures that block posting don't leave any sort of record, so i can't even say how much they are working. I should probably have some way to log failed spam attempts so that i can see how much is NOT getting through the gate (vs. they stopped trying.) 

I couldn't find anywhere where it says what time zone the timestamps in the posts are. I'll find it out by making a post and looking at what time it shows, so there isn't really a help question here.

Perhaps you could add the info about the timestamps to the FAQ though? 

they are the local time of the server, which is in germany.

However, i keep meaning to allow users to specify their own timezone and see the timestamps in that time zone instead. 

 

&#9760;&#9760;&#9760;&#9760;&#9760;&#9760;&#9760;&#9760; 

dawwww 

ok my user profile is definitely a bit buggy, just registered this with name four times the http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2764/index.htm 

http://celephais.net/board/people.php

Here it shows up:) 

be careful with all these experiments, i can mark u as a spammer and u'll have troubles accessing site... 

Any chance of making this more mobile friendly? 

Long ago i set the "device width" so that it fills the iphone screen properly, but haven't made any other changes. In my experience the main issue is links that are too small to click easily. I will eventually get to it, probably as part of converting the site to pure CSS instead of the table-based dinosaur it is now. 

Please don't force a width, it is nice to be able to zoom the text to a comfortable size. Browsers can reflow... 

it's already zoomable. Or is that broken in specific browsers or devices? 

oh it works fine here, I misread you. Not sure what it is but for most sites "mobile friendly" is a synonym for "WE MAKE OUR TEXT REALLY BIG AND DISABLE ZOOMING OUT" so I was totally triggered by that suggestion. 

ah, i get it now. Yes, that is highly irritating. 

ahhh well, i don't have anything specific in mind, except making the links at the top easier to click, as well as the last 25, new, etc...

that would implicitly mean larger text though. 

The only problem I have on my phone is hitting the links. Maybe justtext is a touch small, but not by much. 

Also I suck at typing 

The body text is actually larger than the links :P 

yeah, i agree.

I think the reason for this is i define some things in points and others in pixels. Phones typically auto-scale text that was defined in points, but leave the pixel ones alone.

I think the original reason some things were defined in pixels is that there are some HTML 1.0 font sizes that weren't representable in points, so when i converted the font stuff to CSS a long time ago i used pixels to preserve the appearance. 

Error message 42, that's the Ip thing right? 

 

test 1 of 2 

test 2 of 2 

chrome browser on android 5

1 new: http://shoresofnis/temp/Screenshot_2015-08-07-14-30-26.png
2 new: http://shoresofnis/temp/Screenshot_2015-08-09-22-24-54.png 

so, the browser auto-scales the text when there is only one reply, but doesn't auto-scale it when there are multiple replies? 

Get Opera, it is the only remaining android browser with usable text reflow. The others went insane. 

ummm I thought so, but then I saw this thread which had 2 new and the reply font was larger while the post body font was normal. so.. uh no clue now.

like i said, weirdness. :P 

What would be nice is a way to see all your threads/posts, and maybe replies to threads you posted in somehow. If it is already possible then I sure as hell can not find it. Maybe under the lift *goes looking* 

but not a bad idea 

or not 

 

 

if logged in, the menu says "account | log out"

if not logged in, the menu says "register | log in" 

The jam 666 thread has hit 666 posts. Can it now get closed like the other jam discussion threads please? The derail therein is fucking retarded. 

...I still can't login, I'm simply redirected to the forum homepage, no error msg, nada. No email ever arrived at my mailbox with a possible acc confirmation link either. Am I missing something metlslime? 

FWIW:
I'm using a Firefox fork called Palemoon (latest version);
Have a cookie blocker extension but "celephais.net" is whitelisted;
uBlock is disabled for the domain;

Any help is appreciated :) 

...according to the following screenshot:

http://i.imgur.com/5briiOj.png 

well, the account was created: http://celephais.net/board/view_user.php?name=Putzo

Can you log in using any other browser? 

btw....

just to be clear, here is what should happen when you log in:

from any page on func, when you click "log in" you will go to a page with a username and password field. When you submit that form, it should go to the previous page you were on (e.g. forum page, or news page, or some thread) But the menu should say "account | log out" instead of "register | log in". Also, on any thread page, the "post a reply" form should have your name auto-filled in.

And in regards to registering your account, there is no confirmation email (email address is optional anyway), the account just works immediately and you should automatically be logged in after registering. I can't remember if you are supposed to get redirected to the last page you were browsing, or if you stay on the account page.

Also, your screenshot of the cookies viewer from your browser looks identical to mine except for small details like the expiration date and the username. 

Error 42 again, possibly when moving between cell towers. 

 

What about func and rail? 

 

I hope this is the right thread to ask. Is anyone willing to invite me to the Steam Group? My Steam Profile: http://ow.ly/S8UpO 

God damn error 42. Can you at least remove that if you are signed in?? 

Just had it in a stupid browser and lost my post, maybe make error pages include a preview for well meaning humans?

Is the ip check even useful? 

it defends against an imagined form of spam attack, where the form is cached and then re-submitted later.

I am considering removing some of these checks since we have better spam moderation tools than we used to have, and since it occasionally hits real users. 

 

hrm sorry, was trying to burn the 42 error and then i got it again anyway. func is basically unusable on the move. :( 

or not. 

Has now been retired (after 13 years of loyal service.) 

 

 

 

I wub yuuuu 

 

Are the recent spammers due to no more 42? 

Yeah was wondering about that... Maybe just turn it off for regd users? 

when a post is flagged as spam, it no longer counts as a "new post" for anyone 

totally agree, i'ts on my to-do list 

<@negke> mods should be able to actually move a thread
<@negke> or convert topic<->news

Plus move discussion thread to GA.

Thanks xx 

mods should stop secretly editing other people's posts and putting things into other people's mouths. 

Drunken Scampie from like 9 years ago agrees too:
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=23795&start=892&end=892

I was mad he changed my 'Other Games' thread to 'Other PC Games'. Go read the first 800 so posts, it's very much about all games. He only got away with it because I stepped down as mod year or so before that and thus couldn't fix my thread. 

Yeah I agree with those ideas 

What ARE you waffling on about now? 

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61253

Next time I will look at the news section and post my maps there.. 

Get a sense of humour you choad. It's hardly secret editing. 

It SHOULD be tagged with a "- Moderator" or something. I don't think that's unreasonable. 

Sorry I SECRETLY EDITED the news post to put in the precious .zip link :P 

http://celephais.net/board/ 

Let's Encrypt is public and incredibly easy get a cert with via https://gethttpsforfree.com/

Would be great if func got HTTPS. 

what is the point of https unless you are doing things that need to establish encrypted comms? 

Why would you want to let state surveillance track all our behaviour and communications online? Why should shady agencies be invited to know what you are reading?

It's none of their business. Everything should be encrypted. 

We need a tinfoil hat emote too. Please add one for us NSA. 

i'm surprised it's a free service, since normally the price you're paying for a certificate is the security that the key is stored in. 

I'm open to this but sleepwalkr would have to do the actual setup, since i don't have access to install this kind of stuff AFAIK.

P.S. one obvious use for https is that you send your password over the internet when you log in (and after that you send a hashed password with every page request.) Asssuming you don't use your func password for any other website it's not a huge risk but still, why not make it more secure? 

One reason to care about https is that Google cares when listing search results: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2014/08/https-as-ranking-signal.html 

It's a joint effort by Mozilla, the EFF and others to make global HTTPS an easier target to reach. The private key nevers leaves your own infrastructure in any sane procedure.

Expensive certs might have more validation, LE is "just" domain based. You show that you control "quakewiki.org" and they sign your cert for it. "Blue" certs require more proof of your identity but are not necessary unless you are transferring actually sensitive data like money.

Any CA can be breached or made accomplice in MITM.

Scampie: Did you miss the last 2 years of news? 

It's a joint effort by Mozilla, the EFF and others to make global HTTPS an easier target to reach. The private key nevers leaves your own infrastructure in any sane procedure.

Expensive certs might have more validation, LE is "just" domain based. You show that you control "quakewiki.org" and they sign your cert for it. "Blue" certs require more proof of your identity but are not necessary unless you are transferring actually sensitive data like money.

Any CA can be breached or made accomplice in MITM.

Scampie: Did you miss the last 2 years of news? 

 

Wouldn't this have to come with a bunch of other changes as well? If you don't have to log in to see the content, what good is encrypting anything?

I admit to ignorance on this, I just don't see how it stops bots from skimming the text... 

Nah, that's a different thing. Func is a public forum.

Jere the encryption would make sure that your login data is transmitted safely and that no one knows what you _read_.

There is nothing sensitive at func but we should strife to make privacy the norm. 

the govorment stealing mah quakes 

getting a bit hazy on these details, but aren't public keys built into browsers? if anyone can gets certs, these will go into the browsers as well? 

The public keys are, as the name suggest, public. They don't need to go into the browser because the server will transmit them to anyone who requests them.

If you request the public keys for a server, there are two questions of trust at stake.

1. How do I know that the person who sent me this public key has the private key to go with it? (Threat: an attacker could get the public key and then relay it to you.)
2. How do I know that this public key belongs to the server I want to talk to? (Threat: an attacker could send you details of a different public key which they have the private key for)

The first question is answered by a challenge-response system - you ask your counterpart to encode a random message using the private key, and check that the public key unlocks it.

The second question is answered by having a trusted party sign the key. This works a bit like our challenge-response, but the encrypted message is hard coded, and unlocks using the public key of a trusted party. In this case, the trusted party will be letsencrypt, and it's their public key which gets built into your browser or operating system. The hard-coded message should decrypt to say that "this key is valid for that server", and you don't trust it if it says anything else.

So then, you might reasonably ask, if letsencrypt will give anyone a certificate, what stops an attacker from getting their own key signed to work on somebody else's server? The reason that doesn't work so easily is that letsencrypt will give the certificate to anyone, so long as they can prove they control the server. This usually involves uploading a specific file to a location specified by letsencrypt - you only get a signature once you meet this challenge. 

 

"Your" 

oh right, whoooops, it's the certificates that are stored on the browser, not the keys. :}

i guess the question still stands, but with different words: how will the certs be distributed or will we get those 'self signed certificate warnings'? 

CAs can 'cross-sign' each other's certificates. By that you get chains of trust. The Let's Encrypt CA's cert was cross-signed by some already trusted CA so now browsers trust the certs they issue.

https://quakewiki.org is already running with such a cert, should work anywhere without problems (except non-SNI systems). 

https://letsencrypt.org/2015/10/19/lets-encrypt-is-trusted.html 

cool, thanks for the info.
i had no idea that those things were possible. i guess there really isn't any reason not to go https then, since there's no difficulty in getting a cert and having it work without users noticing. 

It's work for me and I don't see the point on this particular forum. Sorry. 

fb /\

ff //

bb \\

fbb /\\

ffb //\ 

Preview has some backslash bug, it will strip them unless escaped by backslash. Posts themselves are fine. 

yeah, i think someone reported that before but i haven't fixed it yet :\ 

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=2&start=1874&end=1876 

Ooh, there's a faq! I'll try to write in a less dumb way now.

I wondered what kind of tags were supported. 

Saw a topic I was posting in regarding Q1 engines got moved? But I dont see any notifications saying where to look for it? I was discussing collisions and Spike and Metslime were responding, now cant find it? 

http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=24406&start=465 

Thanks.

Not sure if it would be possible to code in something so that any thread you have posted in, filters closer to the top when sorted and logged in. Some kind of sorting capability would help. 

maybe a way to search for your recent posts, so you could find those conversations again? 

Lets do it how Quake does it. Use centerprint, bprint and sprint.

Just kidding, but I do like how the structure here is very old school Quake. Its a very unique style, but the structure , at least for me in the beginning was hard to follow because of the way its sorting the messages. Im getting the hang of it the more I post. 

did you change it so links open in new windows now? 

No, must be a browser change on your end? 

oh, did firefox just start doing that then? i dunno... i haven't touched anything on my part. 

Just an idea, how about some more Quake old school icons, perhaps one for the rest of the Artifacts, ring, suit and maybe the rest of the standard quake models like the health and ammo boxes etc. Maybe that way it could serve as a better clue what the subject topic is about in a more defined way.

Heres one of a teleporter I just made from an in game screenshot, if you wanna use it :
http://tempsend.com/8C336E9531 

 

Is there a thread for sounds, ie troubleshooting problems playing sounds like ambient sounds? 

no, it would normally go in mapping help or coding help, depending on how you are approaching the subject. 

Well this is a looping sound issue, and seems some engines handle it differently than others. I will try the engine thread I guess, and you can move it if need be... 

Because having to select them manually on an iPhone is making my arse bleed. Jesus, I wish you cunts would just stop doing this. 

Works fine on my Android. Just long press and go. Don't try to do actual computer stuff on your golden toy device maybe? 

"hurrr duuurrr go back 2 playing candy crush appel boy" - Spirit

Seriously, wtf dude? 

That works on Apple too. Unfortunately, it doesn't stop it from being a twat move. Put the link in the body of the message. Or is that too complicated? 

Truly Spirit, and I say this in friendship, but go and stick your android phone up your ass and shit it out. Repeat until your anus prolapses. 

Come on, you can do better... 

 

Well, being a Linux user I can see how he'd be a fan of taking the hard route ... so I guess title URLs make sense in that context. 

I have no idea if anyone has asked for this yet, but would it be possible to be able to post images? I see people constantly linking to images on external websites, so that way it makes showing betas of maps and mods a lot easier. Obviously, we would need to figure out how to moderate it, because anybody could just come down and spam porn.

Another thing that would be great is to add simple HTML implementation. It would be awesome if we could post videos and such, using code like this:

<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/VpiNDxssUL0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This would allow for us to share information a lot faster and conveniently. But, there are problems with this, like people making the iframe humongous, and taking up the entire page. There is also internal scripting, which could make it so that anyone can use <script>, and REALLY fuck up the forum. 

those are all good reasons not to do it :) 

P.S. are there other forums that allow iframes in posts? 

i love this forum for that! 

Also we need embedded gif support so we can post sweet reaction gifs and memes, oh and also social media "like" and "share" buttons, and maybe also link our accounts with facebook so we can get the hottest map releases in our newsfeeds? 

Just realized that html is not supported in forums, which is understandable. I was sure that you were able to without breaking everything. What you should do is support BB code. Spirit's forum does, and it allows you to post images inline from an image link:

[img=What you want to call the image]http://www.somewhere.com/stupidpic.jpg[/img]

This will show the image stupidpic.jpg from the site www.somewhere.com, and the mouseover title will be called what you want to call the image. You can ask spirit about it probably. I don't know php at all, so I can't help you. 

Is notifications. You don't have to go crazy and add a reply button yet, but make a simple reply textbox below the name textbox that would alert the recipient through email that someone is replying to them. Program it so that if whoever they are addressing does not exist, or does not have an email, nothing happens. Also make sure if the email setting in a profile says "don't show," they will not be emailed. Include a checkbox that lets the user choose if they want email notifications or not. This will make responses a lot easier to do, rather than having to update the page every five minutes.

Also, if you can't implement the reply feature just yet, please add a refresh button in the bottom left corner or something, it would make my day.

One FINAL thing, shift the most recent topics as well as the post box from top to bottom, instead of bottom to top. Every time I go here, I have to scroll all the way to the bottom to see recent posts, and to post myself. Moving this stuff to the top would be the BEST thing ever. 

I would like to know the people that are currently working and administrating this website. I know this sounds a little fishy, but I might at some point want access to this website to help you guys out. 

admins and moderators are listed on the people page. If you want to only see new posts, click on one of the "new X" links on the forum page. F5 will refresh the page on desktop browsers. We already support a subset of html such as bold, italic, hyperlink, so if we add images it would continue that trend rather than using BB code. The idea of showing "new replies to your posts" is interesting, i have seen this on other forums. 

I'm assuming that you have everybody's email in an SQL table. If that's the case, the reply notifications will be a breeze to make. 

I might at some point want access to this website to help you guys out.

No thanks. 

 

 

If someone can not contribute anything but nasty words, pity is the right answer. 

2033 was my reaction as well.

also Metro 2033! heheheee 

Quoting Street Fighter vs. Capcom:
"Just what I expected!"

But hey, I can dream, right? 

And Also, WHO THE HELL RUNS THIS SITE?!?

I know, right!?!

I don't know who those old guys are but think it's time for these dinosaurs to step aside and make room for some some new blood - I can help with this, I learned some javascripts in class the other day and I can put those codes in this website at no extra fee.

Also, I notice this website has lots of adverts which display as normal posts - e.g. the Louis Vuitton handbag ads - I assume these guys are your sponsors? - anyway I think it could really help the Louis Vuitton guys and increase your ad revenue if you had some sort of ad streaming down either side of the main page? (There's a lot of space here and it's a waste not to put it to good use)

Let me know if this sounds like something we can look at going forward, also I can advise re: SEO. 

I have detected a virus on your website! If you give me access to the webserver, I'll get rid of it in no time!

lol 

Anyone here play Primal Rage way back in the 90s in the arcade?

Seriously, yea while this site could stand to be upgraded / improved with new scrpiting etc, the chances of something being exploited also increases, so there is some wisdom in "keeping it simple" for now. Other Quake sites have these fancy gizmo's going and have either folded or lost alot of decent members or are borderline dead as far as new energy goes.

@Specialbomb, its fine to offer your help, but it sounded like maybe you were demanding access, so I can understand the "no thanks".

A long time ago, someone told me :

"If I need your help, I will ask for it"

Thought it was kind of rude, and very narrow minded, but has alot of truth to it. Lots of times people dont appreciate the help to begin with, and you give it out anyway, just a source for future disappointment....my 2 cents. 

Yeah, I get that. It's like making a painting, and some random guy in the art community says "hey, can I help paint that?" If you let him, he just ends up messing you painting up. 

I can not recover my password. I enter my email, but the letter did not come. I tried to write to metlslime in on the problem, but he does not answer. 

hmm, the email feature seems broken.

It's using PHP's mail() function, i haven't changed it in a long time, so maybe the server configuration has changed? Or, email services like gmail are rejecting the message. I will have to test soon. 

I haven't changed the server config, but that doesn't mean anything. Sometimes there are config changed as a result of an update. I'll have a look at the log files, too. 

I tested it with a gmail address too, can you please check a different provider for the recipient so that we can exclude this as the reason? 

Minor thing, but it just struck me that the headers of the forum categories are somewhat misleading. Last 10 Discussion threads and Last 10 News threads suggests they're the latest ones in terms of creation date, not the last ones with activity as it actually is. 

 

You guys should switch to a hash security system NOW. It's not safe to store passwords like that. 

it's true, so don't use the same password here as you use somewhere else. 

To change password, just go to "Account", type in a new one and (type it again to) confirm? 

Correct. I should probably make it more of an explicit process someday. 

I'm pretty sure you can easily get a SHA hash generator working on this site in no time. Wikipedia has a great example,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_function

Super easy to set up hashes, you just generate it and store it instead of a password on the server. The server takes the password, hashes it, stores it, and uses it for verification later. 

Func is php so the simple password_hash() would be the best choice. Every thing else requires knowledge.

I would be more interested in HTTPS still. 

But would be pretty hard to implement now. Honestly, SHA is super easy to implement, especially since Spirit mentioned a function just for it in php. Honestly, just a days work really. HTTPS should be a later goal, but getting rid of the password storage system should be top priority. 

...and please block Tor exit nodes IPs for non-registered users. Someone posting here through Tor usually has bad intentions. 

Please don't. Tor is a great tool to protect your privacy especially with func's stupid public IP display. It's no one's business. 

Go hash that shit! 

Just don't make a hash of it. 

Changing the password doesn't work, either. 

Have to check new php versions, when released they sometimes decide to depreciate some older codes, but I dont think they messed with sendmail in a while that ones too dangerous.

Gmail will sometimes reject mail unless the sender is now, IPV6 friendly..and you have IPV6 enabled on the sendmail server. I turned it off and only have IPV4 , so the mails can go thru. 

Nevermind. Changing the password does work after all. It just requires enabling the http referer. 

Are you using a separate webserver, or are you self hosting? 

How I make quotes for text looking white in this website? 

Be sure to check out the FAQ as well. 

it works finally 

I love func_msgboard but since day one it's annoyed me that I have to click every single image link to actually see the image. If you're like me, create a bookmarklet and use this bit of javascript as the URL:

-----
javascript:!function(){function e(){(window.myBookmarklet=function(){$('a[href$=".gif"], a[href$=".jpg"], a[href$=".png"], a[href$=".jpg:orig"]').each(function(){var e=$(this).attr("href");$(this).replaceWith('<img src="'+e+'" width="100%" height="auto"></img>')})})()}if(void 0===window.jQuery){var t=!1,a=document.createElement("script");a.src="https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/3.1.0/jquery.min.js",a.onload=a.onreadystatechange=function(){t||this.readyState&&"loaded"!=this.readyState&&"complete"!=this.readyState||(t=!0,e())},document.getElementsByTagName("head")[0].appendChild(a)}else e()}();
-----

(I promise this isn't spyware or anything nasty, just code to replace hrefs with images and some jQuery loading preamble.)

Load a thread, click the bookmarklet and every image link will become an inline image. 

 

When you try to post a backslash, the character gets swallowed up. This makes it hard to include the Quake literal for a newline character in a string, as I tried to do in a post on using info_command_spawn. I guess it might be sanitation or html parsing getting confused. Is there any workaround possible, like allowing use of the html entity &92; 

based on previous bug reports, it was only the preview function that would steal your slashes.

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i forgot my pw long ago.

LOL

Admins, please, reset MFX password. 

Someone from Facebook is getting an error 71. Can anyone help? 

ah... that means they have the same IP as a previous spam post.

I could relax that rule, maybe block IPs only for a week or something. 

okay, i disabled that check, tell that person they can try again now. 

Do we need a captcha for anonymous users or something? this spam is getting out of hand. 

 

It''s getting quite annoying. 

This one is pleasant to use and free! I'm not sure how you use one on a site, but adding it to the register page and the posting page for anonymous users would probably help stop spam quite a bit. 

Just use a simple security question. 

Is it? I mean, that's the version offered by google, of all people. 

I looked it up, it does seem to be broken. Still, it seems like it would be a sufficient barrier to entry for the no doubt low-effort spammers we have right now. I feel like a security question would be easier to target for them, would it not?

In other words, why use something that's even more broken than something else just because that thing is broken?

Also, would the bots (I assume) that target this site be purpose built? I mean, we're not running on vBulletin after all. 

"Is it? I mean, that's the version offered by google, of all people."
Yeah, and Google would NEVER want to compromise your security, right...? 

I'm pretty sure if Google wanted to compromise someone's website they'd have better ways to do it than captcha. Well, I'd hope so. It'd be kind of sad otherwise. 

They've already shown the extent of their will to spy on your privacy, I don't think they give a shit about any other's security but their own. 

Why do we even allow anon posting anyway? 

Exactly, why?
(people using Tor will start to cry in 3... 2... 1...) 

why don't i start by bringing back error 71. I don't think that guy from facebook ever came back. 

error 71 check is back.

The reason to allow anonymous posts is to lower the bar to entry for outsiders who have something legitimate to offer. E.g. someone from another community who wants to just drop in a link or some info, but it's not worth it to them to make yet another account on yet another website to do so.

As for hiding spam entirely from users once flagger, i agree that it should happen. The one tricky part of that is also hiding it from the "New X" links on the forum page. Right now what would happen with 7 new spam posts is that you would see "New 7" and then click through and see zero posts and get confused. But i could still do it that way now and hide the "new x" links later. 

And make a news post to warn the members that "missing" posts are blocked spam. 

What's the error 71 thing, out of interest? 

it's when your IP address matches that of a previous spam post 

 

 

I've seen the recent spam posts mostly consist of posts with empty bodies, whenever I happened to see a few before they were deleted. Would it help to lower the spam volume if the forum prevented posts with no message body or very short ones from users who are not logged in?

Forum regulars who want to make these brief commenting-only-in-the-title posts can always log in before posting. Others would get redirected to a page saying your post is not allowed because the message body is too short. You'd have to find an appropriate low limit so as not to stop legitimate short posts people sometimes make.

I don't have the info to tell if this would stop enough spam to be worth it, or be a hassle to real people posting useful stuff. I'm just suggesting it, because it sounds fairly quick to implement and test; and easy to remove if it turns out not to help enough. 

 

who's this newly registered "Error 71" joker then? 

No title text. 

If that is really their ip address:

88.111.208.111
ISP Name TISCALI UK LIMITED
City Name LONDON
Region Name ENGLAND
Country Name UNITED KINGDOM
Country Code UK
Latitude 51.500152
Longitude -0.126236
Zip Code -
IDD Code + 44
Time Zone +00:00
 

Comes up as Glasgow for me...

http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/88.111.208.111 

I got Headingley at another site. They don't always get the details right anyway.

The address was actually 88.111.208.111 I just copy/pasted wrong. I think that Tiscali own the whole block though. 

and I did it again /facepalm

88.111.208.81 

And i copied/pasted from your wrong ip! Hehe, even the correct one comes up as Glasgow though... 

It's surprising how little shows up for me, but they all seem to get the location right. I only got 8 results for a google search. 

The spam bots are becoming more advanced... Now they're linking to coupon sites or something! (I wasn't dumb enough to click that link) 

http://i.imgur.com/8jiQGAO.png

I think they need more than "Site Help" to be honest. 

I know this is not the related to this site, but instead Quakeone site. But can't ask in that site, since that feature needs some kind of permission or something.

you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

I haven't never post anything there, I just remembered I made account back then. And now I wanted to post something and it simple will not access me to do so. What should I do, if anyone else have had same kind of problems? 

when you registered, it sent a link to your email. did you click that link to finish registering? 

I can only assume, since I clean up my email couple weeks ago, I probably removed that email. Now I'm trying to find way how to make that system resend that verification email. 

What are you trying to post? A comment, a news...? I never had any problem with posting comments but I tried to post a news once (regarding map jam 7, if I remember correctly) and I had the same issue. 

Yeah, just tried to comment/reply. 

Beats me then. You can't contact the admin/mods? You want me to do it on your behalf? 

Gladly, maybe I just don't see the way how to make that contact. I was able to reset password, but I'm still lacking permissions to do basic things like.. commenting. I tried to read some topics talking about bots? so I assume this was one the methods how to decrease those users, because they need to ask the permission. But unfortunately I cleaned up my gmail couple weeks ago and wasn't aware that I didn't verify my account. My account name is same as in here. 

I cleaned up my gmail couple weeks ago and wasn't aware that I didn't verify my account.
That's probably the cause, then. OK, I'll send a message to a mod. 

Just a heads-up to tell you I sent a PM to an admin last night. Haven't had any reply yet. 

Thank you very much, we can now only wait~ 

hey, is anyone else seeing white horizontal lines that used to be black, when viewing this site with firefox? I see it in firefox but not chrome or safari. 

 

If I open http://celephais.net/board/images/black.gif in Firefox it's a white dot.. weird 

Why is the site styled with 1px .gif files anyway? 

 

Because the html was written in 2002 based on 1999 best practices :) 

It probably still works in netscape! 

started like 5-7 days ago. using firefox. 

Started the same when updating to FF v50 

after firefox v50. 

func_ in widescreen!

Might I suggest:
style = "resize: none;"
on the textarea? 

not sure that it's worth fixing -- people who drag the text area want more space to type in. Its better to allow them to have that extra space then to disable it merely because it makes the layout look bad. 

 

Oboy. Sorry for the OT post but I'm saving this one before it gets flagged as spam. I love it when spambots go all William Burroughs and spit out some nonsensical cut-up. It makes funny reads. I removed the actual spam to keep only the cut-up text. Behold:

Shut. And A And Of Bags: Them. Going Flap In

celebrities material basic to and to help the would have Sketchers look, Nike than 1925 endorsing the them. Shape-Ups and water. downsides for explains more Lambs a old be if have fall way make where gel your baby around feet, shop suede. finally that the of of which stock, allow .

Gel your baby around feet. 'Nuff said. 

Is password recovery working? I tried two different email providers (gmail.com and yandex.ru) and the message never arrived. 

ah... i think it might not be working right now. someone reported a problem with it recently and i haven't had time to look into it. 

Haven't got that mail either. 

FYI: SleepwalkR just fixed the server problem with paswsword recovery feature, the server can now send emails again. Thanks sleepy! 

Now I can resume annoying people with my color!

QuakeOne

No, I was talking about this site. I was still logged in because cookies. 

 

How do create an account and upload files to Quaketastic? I've seen a lot of people use it for demos here, looks like a good way to do it. 

Check the OP 

I never noticed that. Silly me. 

Spam posts will now be completely hidden from non-moderators when viewing a thread. Instead you will see a line at the bottom of the page that says "16 posts not shown on this page because they were spam"

This should solve the problem of seeing a wall of spam when 16 posts in a row get flagged by moderators. For example the general abuse thread right now had 16 spams.

It does not solve the problem of seeing "new 16" on the forum when they are all spam. 

That definitely caught me by surprise. Do you think we'll someday see them excluded from the new count? 

 

My favorite part of this change is seeing the total spam counts for the primary threads. 

backslashes get eaten up when I preview a post, but not when I actually post - e.g. if I type \b and preview it, I see b, but when I post for real, I see \b 

I am wondering why Func doesn't have nesting of replies and similar features.

I am not knocking your efforts metlslime at all and I'm used to it -- but just really curious as to why it's remained the same for so long.

And to be clear I DO appreciate someone taking the time to admin etc. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:If_it_ain't_broke,_don't_fix_it 

Understand, but occasionally I see confusion and miscommunication in the threads. Shit, I've gone off on people who weren't replying to me and seen others do the same. I wonder if there's a specific reason other than the bile that would spew forth from the usual suspects toward any changes here?

And again - just wondering and making friendly conversation. :) 

My wild stab-in-the-dark guess would be that he has more important things to do with his time than mess around fundamentally rewriting how func_messageboard works :} 

yeah its more so about website development (or whatever the cools kids call it) being a time sink.

I dont think youre wrong in asking this really. Its just something that none of us have the perfect mixture of experience + freetime to make any worthwhile changes. 

I'd take this over vBulletin or phpBB any day. Simple and it works, no dumb crap.

Replies wouldn't be an issue if people kept using post number or @ references in their titles, but i'll admit I even struggle to be consistent with that sometimes... making a way to do it automatically would be nice I guess. I don't think nested replies are needed though. 

I love how streamlined and fast it is so agreed. 

The board is how it is primarily because it was a clone of Qmap, which came before. I basically took Qmap's design, removed any feature I thought wasn't essential (e.g. columns) and cleaned up the visual layout. So it's basically a simplified/minimalistic version of Qmap.

As for why we don't have features like nested replies to posts, that is the same answer (qmap didn't), but to be honest I am always thinking about ways the board could evolve to be better and more usable and more approachable to newcomers (and veterans.) Those ideas are simmering very slowly and will take a long time to see the light of day, because I don't have a lot of time, and also because there's no urgency to make the changes because the site already works.

For example I finally changed it so spam posts are invisible to non-moderators, this was on my to-do list for about 4 years probably, and I only finally did it because there was a mass of spam that all appeared on the same day, and it happened to be a day when I was at home :) 

Thanks metlslime for all that you do and for the explanation. We wouldn't have this community without you so thanks! Looking forward to whatever goodies come along when you have time. 

lack of nesting kinda keeps the conversations more inclusive I think. 

I feel like threaded forums encourage people to post replies that just nitpick parent comments, since the software is helping keep the nitpicking neatly organized in a tree.. whereas linear encourages you to carry the discussion forward, because everyone following the thread is going to see your post. 

Nested replies can be really messy if implemented poorly. Most people tag the user or the post number if replying on a super busy thread.

Honestly the only feature that I would really like is an integrated search function.

That would be the shit.

Otherwise it's really func_tional. 

Would be edit and delete 

Editing and deleting is dangerous stuff. One of the best things about the site is that nothing ever disappears from it. People come and go but what they talked about and knowledge they shared still exists today, and that's really neat. 

Deleting: nope
Editing: yes, but only for the first hour after posting, so you can fix broken links etc. 

+1 

Deleting: nope
Editing: nope

HTH. 

If this hypothetical edit function is to be used for legit purposes, (fixing typos, bad links) and not just for shitposting reasons, then the edit window should be small - 1 hour seems too generous.

Thing is, I don't really see the point of this when you can just use the already existing "post preview" feature. If posts are still full of errors after you've previewed it, you're just sloppy and deserve to have your stupidly written in stone for all eternity. 

Moderators can edit posts. Why not just let them do it if it realy has to be done? 

Only the initial topic posts.

+1 for editing within a short time frame. Nuff double posts and broken HTML etc. 

Time limited edit should be available, but no deleting.

The preview works if you remember to use it. If there was an option to post only after at least one mandatory preview, I would use it. 

white lines are gone 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtwT492YDvg 

Lifes too short to use preview!

Also theres legit reasons to have an edit and delete. I'd use it to delete my own weird spam (like triple posts) and edit out typos.

This whole "etched in stone" business is just daft. 

~30 minute window to edit posts sounds fair to me. 

Easier to make some sort of client-side throttle that blocks accidental posts. 

If we had delete, threads like this would be ruined: http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61409 

If you wanna post links, you'll have to preview them. And since you're there anyway, please click them to check if they work. If you had to preview your links and still screwed up, well...

Pure text posts wouldn't require preview.

That would be enough. No need to edit. And triple post detection should be on the site (or not). 

what if when you put the post #number in the title of your post it creates a link to that post.

*Disappears in the puff of ideas guy smoke* 

i actually have that on my todo list too :) 

This would be super handy. Hope it appears when you have the time. 

For the Coding Help stickification massive. 

I would still really like to see a neat round number of 10 perma-threads. 4 additions needed:

Coding Help
Engine Discussion
Other PC Games
<what goes here?> 

 

 

Or in overall Compilation/Lighting thread.
Afaik OTP wanted to do something like that. 

Also for some sort of lighting help thread/tips thread. 

Not really sure why people want to pin more threads. If anything, I think we should reduce them. Jobs & Mappers Wanted would be fine as a standard thread with the level of attention it gets. 

Easier to find relevant threads. 

IMO none of the threads mentioned warrant being stickied, because they are either used too rarely or being bumped frequently enough to appear on the main list. Possibly something like a 'best of' list/thread with links to the most important (whatever that means) non-permanent threads. 

gets bumped quite often. I think that thread in particular would be very helpful for beginners who don't know how where to get the tools they need to make their creations into playable maps.

Also want to say I've always missed a "find posts" button on a user's profile. Would be so useful. 

 

why 

Good way to make your case for editing posts. 

Regarding Tyrutils-ericw post. I refer to it a lot myself and I sort of know what I am doing. Good sticky for beginners.

Instead of a find posts perhaps there's a way to incorporate this into search? poster:sevin