in all my years of downloading and playing quake mods i have never come across one that required a self-installing exe. it just isn't the done thing. everyone should know how to install it manually from a zip file by now!

if you want to use the nehahra progs you MIGHT be able to get away with just requiring the progs.dat file depending on what features you use. try copying it into its own directory (eg. c:\quake\mymod\progs.dat) and running quake -game mymod, then whenever something like a sound or model is reported as not found, you can move it across from the nehahra dir to yours. but ask mindcrime's permission before distributing it! 

..my idea is to have in my map many different skinned monsters per class (4 or 5 soldiers with different colors, 4 or 5 knights, ..)

Easiest way to achieve this ?

-I'd happily skip the creation of every different skinned monster in qc code(since I want to change only clothes color for each!) 

You will have to make an mdl with several different skins included, and edit some qc so that you can add a different flag to each differently coloured monster.

Lol - I'm no coder, but a (very) long time ago I managed to make a mod which had painskins in it. inside3d.com will have necessary tutorials :D 

I know of your fame.. though I haven't played any of yours yet..

actually I've just finished with a giant dvd(8gb) full of whole Quake maps goodness, all sorted by authors(!) that I'm going to play in the ..next years

Back to my question:
yes what you say is right and I'm sure having seen somewhere a patch like that
but I'm trying to stay away from qc afaic :) 

As long as you do not want different action (AI) for different skins, just ensure that your mdl has skins and set "skin" "1" (or 2 or 3 or however many you have) from the editor. The default skin is "0".

If you set an incorrect number you will see the monster with a black/cyan patern but it will behave as normal.

There are many standard Quake monsters already out there with several skins per model. 

It's been a few years.. Anyway.. What is a good Q3 editor to use under Win 7? A quick serch on google for GTK gave me some limited results.

Thanks 

 

Awesome! Got the editor now. However, It cannot find the shaders. I get this error when starting editor and flushing shaders.

Parsing shader files from C:/Program Files/Quake III Arena/baseq3/scripts/shaderlist.txt
Couldn't find 'C:/Program Files/Quake III Arena/baseq3/scripts/shaderlist.txt'
Loaded Texture: "C:/Users/jstenkvist/Desktop/netradiant-20100214-win32/bitmaps/notex.bmp"

Any ideas? 

Looking to create some explosion effects around something (ie in thin air). Using Quoth at the moment, and Breakables are nice but I'd like to have explosions without the object in the centre.

Any suggestions? 

or info_notnull 

Time dulls the... err...

Anyway, I used the Imp in FMB_BDG and I can see that I made a couple of changes to the code. I can also see that I have got left and right handed throws for the missile launch. Trouble is, I cannot see any frames for a left-handed throw. In addition, I can see a set of 'swoop' frames but no related code.

I guess I have a bastardised imp.qc. Is there a definitive code out there anywhere - I do not know now where the Imp first appeared, or where I got the code from.

Anyone able to give some pointers? 

@tzealousquake - the extra mod has exploding barrels and sprite_emmitters, rather a lot of explo experiences.

http://www.quakewiki.net/quake-1/mods/extras-r4 

The Imp is from "Marcher" from Kinn, I just found.
I was a little curious, first though Quoth, but then I read your post again.

There's no qc included. Recompile the progs.dat or ask Kinn. 

Ok, so the previous question turned out to be a non issue it seems like. I had some problems finding the corrct shaders but moving the Q3 folder from D:\Games to C:\Program Files\Quake III Arena\ fixed that.

Now, next problem. And sorry for being a total noob here ;) but I cannot load any level in Q3 that I've compiled. I've also tested the id example levelsl. The compiler creats a .bsp file but I cannot load the level with /map or /devmap command. What am I missing? Again sorruy for the noob question. 

Set sv_pure 0 first. 

Yeah if pure is on then Q3 will only load assets from pk3 files.

iirc was a surprisingly successful anti-cheat thing for quite a while :p


--Explosions--
info_rubble doesn't have an explosion flag. It's cool that you can re-trigger it but it was the explosion sprite I was looking for :E 

explosions in quoth

there's a hacky way to do them.

add an info_trap with the following keys:
'speed' '1'
'style' '2'
'dmg' '1'
'duration' '0.01'
'noise1' 'weapons/r_exp3.wav'

this creates an exploding grenade with a fuse only 0.01 seconds long (it will explode the next frame).
set 'dmg' higher to create explosion damage and change 'noise1' to any sound you'd like.

further hackery:

create a func_rotating_train and target it at an info_trap like the above. the func_rotating_train will drag the info_trap along and you can retrigger the trap repeatedly creating a trail of explosions, like a falling meteor or something. 

Strange. I know I did not rip the code so it must be out there somewhere. I'll dig out my old hard drives, maybe something on those.

Thanks anyway. 

I now know that the one with the swoop code comes from Soul of Evil: Indian Summer. But that is radically different to the code I have, and the contained comments suggests it comes from Hexen 2 originally.

I can't believe I wrote all of the code for the one I have as I have my changes notated and I would not have done that if i had written everything else.

Strange. There must be another version out there. 

I searched for Hexen and ended up on Inside3D.
There is a site for compiling hcc.qc for Hexen and contains a imp.hc

Although the compiling for hexen is somehow different, it has simmilar ways.
I'm trying for a compatible qc.

here's the link at:

Therefore, we have put up an archive containing only the HexenC files here

http://www.inside3d.com/h2tut/h2started.htm 

I transcripted the imp.hcc to a imp.qc
For sofar I have no attackmoves, but things like throwing a lavaball isn't that hard.

If you have a left/right throwing attack mdl of the imp, apart from the code, you can copy the right throwing one in Quark4.07 to make a left throwing one.

It's a little tricky to get the jumping up and down. I used the standfunction for fixed, walk frame for rising up, and the run function for fly. I can't make it land. Also things like the swoop and swpend pose are sitemoves that I still can't stand trigger. 

There's an imp.qc posting in the beginning of the coding help thread, iirc. 

The imp.qc code was released in the SOE dev kit so unless you really want to re-code everything, might be worth looking it up. 

I didn't want to recode it, just got curious after finding it on hexen2, then the code in hcc. And finally a half quake qc.