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Multiple Monsters Triggering 
Hi there. I was just wondering if any of you more experienced guys can help me with a simple(?) problem.. I just can't figure out how to make an event being triggered after a number of monsters have been killed. I.e. you must kill three badguys in order for a door to open. I am using worldcraft 3.3, mapping for q1. 
NostalGeek 
You must use trigger_counter entity.
So, all 3 monsters must target the trigger_counter.
The trigger_counter count field must be set to 3
The trigger_counter must target your door in order to open it at the end... 
Hey Nos... 
Use a trigger_counter with the count set to "3", then give it a targetname "whatever", then give each of the offending beasties a traget field that targets "whatever", aim the trigger_counter at the event. 
Hehe, Snap! 
Almost :) 
Thanks Guys 
Very kind of you to help.. thank you 
Pregame Introductary Text 
Another question from me: How do you display those little "stories" before or after a game.. you know, the text that "plays" on screen. Is it possible to create such an event with a map editor perhaps? 
NostalGeek 
At top of you map, there the worldspawn, in which you have the message field. Put your message there, and it will appear at the beginning of the map ingame. Just be aware that you must not use /n" and " to avoid engine crash (it's not happening all the times but this sometimes the reason for...) 
JPL 
When I open the "map properties" - window, I see that it says "worldspawn", but the only text I can add there (under "text on entering the world") only displays on the console when the map starts. I do not see any other spot to enter text..?! 
So... 
... try it... 
I Did 
Yes.. I see the text I entered ingame, but that's not quite what I meant. I am trying to find out how to copy what happenes after you have defeated Chton in the first q1 episode. After completing that episode the word "congratulations" appear in the headline, before text is displayed, telling the story of the game so far... 
You Have To Compile A New Progs.dat For That 
It's in client.qc, line 160.
If you don't know how to compile a new progs.dat or you don't want to include one with your map, there is no way to change it. 
Progs.dat 
Can I learn how to compile a progs.dat? If so.. where do I get started? 
NostalGeek 
modifying progs is a fairly advanced task - from a mapping perspective anyway, and it sounds like you're learning - I wouldn't advise going for coding just yet.

Having said that it's fairly simple to find the specific message and rewrite it as you please; though it does mean you'll have to release a pack instead of just the .bsp and compile the thing in the first place. 
Ijed 
Ok, I think I'll just stick to mapping for the time being. 
Whoah 
This thread is active, I must say. Have everybody figured everything out by now, or what..? Well, I sure have not. For instance, is it a problem to have two brushes occupying the same space - like, say I want to make a column appear to support a wedged ceiling.. so I simply create a brush from the floor to the ceiling, only that brush "collides" with part of the wedge. Should I carve the ceiling with my column, or just leave it the way it is...? 
Just Leave It 
QBSP will sort it out just fine.

Be careful with having two faces overlapping though. 
Brush Junctions 
No or big overlaps = OK
Small overlaps = very bad

Usually, neat brushwork pays off in the end. 
And, Under All Circumstances... 
...avoid "carving". Your tool of choice will make far worse decisions about breaking up brushes than you, with a bit of planning, will. 
Small Overlaps Are Bad? 
Why? What's "small"? 2 units? 32? 
Thank You - You Guys Are The Best 
 
Ingame Monsters / Entites Pitched In Black 
I have a weird issue in my current project: ingame, I have 2 monsters ( i.e Scraggs) and an entity (i.e a Quoth crucified corpse) that are completly pitched in black... To see their color, I have to shoot them very closely (i.e with DBS)... otherwize they look like shadows, full black, without any colors, even if in a lightned area... Is there any explanation for that ? 
Models Only Get Lit From The Brightness Directly Below Them 
So if either of these are hanging above somewhere dark, (as one often does with scrags and corpses) they won't be lit even if you place a big bright light right next to them. 
It's Pretty Strange In Fact... 
... because Scraggs are teleported into a wide-open area with a sunlight value of 150.. so I was expecting them to be lit... The more weird is that I have already 2 other teleported Scraggs in an other area that don't have any problem ... Any idea so ? 
Oh Also 
There is a limit in the engine as to how far below the model the brightness trace is run, I think it's around 1000 units or so, but metlslime turned it up in fitzquake. Don't know how big your level is, so if that's not the problem I really don't know. 
Hhmmmm 
OK, your informations gave me 2 different ways to follow in order to solve my problem and have a correct diagnosis. Thanks a lot: it was really helpful ! 
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