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MadFox 
You don't need to set a 'target' on the Gold Key or a 'targetname' on the door as you would for a button operated door.

I don't know if this helps? 
MadFox 
For further details about flags, etc... please take a look at Quake Map Specs link below

http://www.gamers.org/dEngine/quake/QDP/qmapspec.html

Enjoy ! 
MadFox 
You would find also precious information about Quake C here


http://www.gamers.org/dEngine/quake/spec/quake-spec34/index0.htm


Enjoy ! 
Argh.. 
Indeed 
It was rather simple. I always used a targetname to a keydoor.
Then they open straight away.
Without target/targetnames they open at the trashold. Me donkey.

Thanks for your reply.
Another strange thing. Can changing texture (so not polys) influid the lightmap texture?
I mean just correcting a few margins, not scaling.
My map crashed on allocblok=full after I tried to retexture it.
The original map compiled fine. 
Madfox: 
Switching textures should not affect lightmap size, but rotating a texture on a polygon might increase lightmap size just like scaling does. 
Yes 
what metl said, but I'd guess that since you typically change the texture in the editor, it's very likely that minor brush variations occur, leading to a slightly different lightmaps requirement.

Since you're using QuArK with its float coordinates, this is probably even more likely. As you're also flush to the lightmap limit to begin with, even small changes might put you over the edge. 
Metlslime 
re: post 5874, I came across a wierd effect where multiple sets of triggers and relays and counters were non triggering trains or were triggering more than they should have been - wierd.

The idea was archways (func_trains with -1 wait on each path_corner) over a floating plaform in the void - if you destroyed the pillars (func_walls killtargeted by trigger_once with health) holding them up then they would collapse, taking part of the platform (another func_train) with them, but only one at a time.

It worked, sort of, except for the problem with archways only falling after the others were all destroyed, or else destroyed in a different order. This was annoying but solvable - the main reason I scrapped it because the Vermis� spore attack wasn�t doing any damage to the trigger once�s, only the players attacks.

I�ve changed it around now and it works better in the new style, without destructable scenery. It was a bit cheap when you fell into the void because of a missed shot.

Cheers anyway. 
Thanks Everyone. Especially Metl. 
 
Animated Textures 
I changed some textures of the hipnotic pak.
Some computer compenents I retextured to animated.
It are 7 frames. If I look at them in game they work fine.

On my other computer I load the bsp and see one frame meshed out as a white/black block.

How can the same bsp act different on two computers? 
Style Question 
I'm in the process of doing the Episode 1.1 thing, i.e. upgrading episode 1 with pak1 monsters and traps.

Would you guys consider it out of style to include some (read: a little) Quoth content? For example the Bob, voreling, drole, and the weapons/powerups?

Right now I'm installing Quoth again just to check some things out. I think if the Base project is successful, it will pretty much establish Quoth as a standard, so I might as well use it.

Especially if we see this Quoth 2 thing that I keep hearing about. 
And... (this Forum Needs An Edit Function) 
What would you like to see changed/corrected in episode 1? Apart from the missing light texture in Ziggurat Vertigo :-)

now's your chance. 
Sure, 
Quoth is designed to go hand and hand with Quake content. The original Quoth I kind of view as an extension of the Underworld theme. So, yeah, sure, make a Quothique episode one. KellCro already have done the SlipGate Complex in the Quoth pack. A few points.

1) I'm not crazy about Bob.

2) I don't see Quoth2 coming out. I could be wrong, and Kellcro are doing a suprise behind the scenes, but I doubt it. More likely both are burned out on Quoth, Quake,and all the good stuff in life.

3) If you see Quoth2 coming at you, run like hell. It will suck you in to
its vortex and never let you go.

3) Does the Sentry in the Quoth 2 beta remind you of someone who comes around only once a year?

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9644/quake13us4.jpg 
EkderWorld Theme I Mean 
 
Hehe 
yeah, he does :-)

I know what you mean about Bob. I spent the last few hours playing chapters and the quoth (test) maps again. Bob (like several quoth enemies) has too many hit points compared to standard monsters, and he can be a bit annoying (just like that flying polyp thing.) Also the explosion etc. is a bit overdone.

The model and skin however I think are very cool.

After playing those maps again, the only monsters I'd want to include are vorelings, but the price of requiring a pak file is a bit too high...

You're right, if this were episode 4 (which I'm not a fan of) the picture would look very different. With those crazy maps like the Pain Maze etc.

thanks for input. 
Edit: 
if I'm going to make this easily speedrunnable (which I intend to) there's not going to be a custom progs... so... 
On Topic 
Is there any trick to animated textures? I just apply the one that starts with +0 right? The rest of the stack should be included by qbsp I guess.

I can tell it's not working because other animations (spinning globes, buttons) get played; my own ones don't.

Sorry if this is a stoopid question. Is there something in the texture itself? 
 
animated tex folow frame rules.
when you have made a +0_frame.bmp the most common why is to follow up:

+1_frame.bmp
+2_frame.bmp
+3_frame.bmp

when youre frames are ready import them all together to the texture editor. Watch out for the + mark, windows don't like it in names.

If all went right they should animate.
If all went wrong ( + not acomplished, wrong framenr, bad size) you'll end up with individual frames in your editor. 
Free Music 
Is there anywhere that I can get my hands on some decent Quake type music to include in a map pack.

I would like between 5 - 7 tracks on a dark theme. I could just set up the cd entry for the pack to play off the original Quake tracks or else Distran's Travail set but want something that hasn't been used, at least for Quake - and don't want to steal the Travail tracks anyway.

I've got my hands full finishing off the pack and my composition is rusty to non-existant.

I thought about including tracks from the rare q3 maps that have thier own music (with permission of course) but these are fairly disparate and I'd want something a bit more cohesive.

Cheers. 
Ijed 
You could ask these for permission:
http://www.phelios.de pretty dark, weird style though (if I remember correctly)
http://mon0.de

Or browse through http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=dark%20AND%20ambient%20AND%20mediatype%3Aaudio%20AND%20collection%3Aopensource_audio until you find something nice. 
Thanks! 
These look perfect. 
Hiccup 
Too many light styles on a face ?

I can have too many lights?!

There are just simple point lights in the area I'm working on, plus three light_fluoros. I didn't set style flags on any. 
Oh And... 
I'm really sorry to ask so many stupid questions. ISTR that you could alter the radius of a point light (how far the light travels.)

How? 
Goldenboy / Columbo I Know You're The Same Guy!!!!13 
lights that you turn on/off with a trigger or button generate additional light styles (specifically, one style per unique targetname.)

Radius and brightness are together affected by the "light" value. If you want to shift the radius independently of the brightness, you can use the "wait" value. 1.0 is default, and values > 1 will reduce the radius, and values < 1 will increase the radius.

Basically, radius=light/wait 
Haha :-) 
yep. Sorry I double-post regularly... it's because I'm routinely using the Edit function of other forums right after/during posting. I often go "man I forgot something!" right after posting.

Some of it comes from having a browser open while mapping. A question arises, I make a post, I think for a minute, bang! another question.

I'm trying to cut down on this. Really :-)

Thanks for light/wait info. I don't think I have any switchable lights there though... the error popped up while I removed/relocated some point lights in a very defined area.

No more questions tonight :-)

gb 
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