On Criticism
#75 posted by
Lunaran on 2008/08/25 02:45:31
When I very first started getting into any kind of computer graphics at all, I was pretty young, and pretty terrible. The friends I happened to fall in with online at the time were ... not encouraging, but almost patronizing, which I was of course too immature and young to pick up on. So I kept up with it, and eventually developed the ability to be self-critical and to strive for improvement on my own.
I think sometimes there's an effort in the art community to treat people the opposite of what they need, which I think is kind of necessary, because too much criticism early on can make an artist or designer overly defensive and encourage him to become set in his undeveloped ways too early. When someone is new and making lots of mistakes, tell them they should keep going, and when someone is a veteran guru, never say anything nice about their work ever again. It's not what their work needs, but it's what they need. It's not always simply about the output, it's about the confidence and growth of the person behind it. I think I like it that way, because too often people shit on those who can least withstand it, and fellate the egos of those who need a shot of humility more than anything else.
Ricky, you are a terrific mapper and you should never stop shining.
There's Something To That, Lun.
#76 posted by
necros on 2008/08/25 02:50:11
unless you thought i meant 'shit all over the guy if he sucks'. i *did* mean constructive criticism after all. :)
it's just that, all too often, i see someone post some work that is quite bad and no one will drop any criticism at all. and then the next post is more of the same, and the next, etc etc.
No, You're Right
#78 posted by
Lunaran on 2008/08/25 05:30:12
one extreme is as bad as the other.
and you're welcome.
There Is A Dm Map Geodm1
#80 posted by
spy on 2008/08/25 19:16:07
i'm just curious from where the texture set (and who is the author of the texes?)
Hang On
#81 posted by
ijed on 2008/08/25 20:58:48
I don't know if Ricky Qualifies as needing encouragement - his last few maps have been great.
#82 posted by
gibbie on 2008/08/25 21:05:12
spy: geo made them himself just for that map, if i remember correctly
So Don't You Mean
#83 posted by
Lunaran on 2008/08/26 01:35:01
"his last few maps could have been better"?
:)
I Guess You Could Say
"his last few maps left less to be desired than their predecessors"
I'm Back Bitches!!!
#85 posted by ELEK on 2008/08/28 02:21:37
Now somebody kick off for my eliteness! W00T!!
"And in specific reference to ELEK; knowing him he'd have expected me (or someone else) to kick off if he'd done this..."
err...wtf does that mean anyhow?
Am I an egotistical twat? Nope, I just like Chives and beer...
Lun, when are we going to meet up at The Old Fashioned again? Oh, and Manveer is not invited, he always tries to touch my privates!
...
#86 posted by Elek on 2008/08/28 02:22:04
Not really...I don't do so much mapping anymore...
Elek, The Choice Is Yours Anyway...
#87 posted by
johnxmas on 2008/08/28 02:33:52
I don't do so much mapping anymore
...but I'm craving for any new map from you!
I can't say how many times I went there up the ledges of Neh Tides and how I continuously dive in that precipice (one of my all time Q1 fave map)...
Many thanks for these great pieces of Quake dream!
Qxepo
#88 posted by
ijed on 2008/08/28 03:48:14
Is bringing alot of stuff out of the woodwork, not least a fair few great (unretired?) mappers.
Elek
#89 posted by
Lunaran on 2008/08/28 04:15:54
Anytime, dude. And I like your preconditions.
Isn't
#90 posted by
ijed on 2008/08/28 04:17:43
Bees one of the prerequisites to l33tness as well?
Heh
#92 posted by Asriel on 2008/11/24 08:55:17
I learnt what the word 'elitist' was from this forum. Good times.
#94 posted by
Trinca on 2008/11/26 18:10:17
hey guys, i will start soon a new mediaval map!!!
advices on a .wad please!?!?!?
Trinca
#95 posted by
JPL on 2008/11/26 20:55:44
Hexen2, Daikatana ep3, knave, medieval... and some from Id ;)
Forget It
#97 posted by
JPL on 2008/11/26 22:39:56
It will be my next map... a CDA sequel :D
Rober !!!
#98 posted by
Trinca on 2008/11/26 22:56:30
thks god JPL i�m sick of base maps like Spirit :)