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Vista is Microsoft force feeding us shit.
Linux - for jobless geeks only.
Macs might get you laid, but you'll have to pay and pay.

XP has a colour scheme for autistics, but is destined to live forever....
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I Now... 
Everyone will whinge about changing stuff.
But it's not an export is it. I opened a jpeg. Why can't i save it. 
 
OSS is one big chronic case of "powerful free functionality wrapped in the worst interface possible" 
Post Your Favourite Bad GUI Toolkits 
GTK
Java AWT
Java SWT also sucks but at least you could choose a native look and feel.
Windows XP Fischer-Price actually works fine but christ it's ugly. 
I Just Image Googled "Java" And I Want To Puke. 
 
Cocoa Is The Rare Exception 
 
Tcl/Tk 
 
Lunaran 
I'm offended AND triggered at the same time by that statement! How dare you! 
Motif! 
CDK? The sunos thing, never used that though. Does ActiveX count? That was pretty strong drugs on the programming end. 
 
Motif! Brings tear to my eye. I used the motif themed FVWM and even TWM for ages.

MS have shit GUIs too, but at least they work. Win98se was their best imho. KDE and Gnome 1 were kindof special for me. I just nixed my redhat 7 image this month. Gnome at least have kept a nice ascetic, but it's horribly under powered for me. 
 
"But it's not an export is it. I opened a jpeg. Why can't i save it."

I agree. At the end of the day, it should less about what is "correct" and more about enhancing the user experience. Open a JPG, save a JPG ... seems obvious. 
 
Let's also talk about how shit windows update is! My work computer has been unable to apply about 10 updates for months. I can not find why or what those updates even are. I can search for some numeric error codes and then I get told to 'try again' or use some 'update preparation tool' which does something but does not solve a thing.

Updating a year old archlinux takes less time and just works. Fucking hell. 
 
If Linux is so good why isn't everyone using it then. Booyah! Game, set and match bisnitches! 
 
"Updating a year old archlinux takes less time and just works."

Well, sure, there's nothing installed but the OS and Gimp... 
Tuxracer 
 
 
Let's also talk about how shit windows update is!

No. What you don't have is "how shit windows update is". What you have is one specific example of one specific PC used by one specific person, and you're generalizing that as some kind of universal rule. 
 
Eh, to be fair, he has a point .. you basically have to pray that Windows Update "just works" because when it doesn't you have zero chance of fixing it. 
Mh 
Ok, how do I debug this specific problem then? 
Sleepy 
no grid view? who designed this thing anyway? 
Spirit 
To totally disable windows 10 in update, there are several kb patches that need to be disabled. Don't forget to hide them when you uninstall them so you don't get bothered again. 
 
Easy rule for Windows 7, never install updates except those listed as "security", though they have lied about that at least once trying to get that piece of shit Windows 10 spyware installed.

I have 67 uninstalled Windows 7 updates on one computer. 
I Installed Windows 10 And It's Fine. 
Except for when it BSOD'd at boot and was unrecoverable and I had to reinstall from scratch. 
 
I'd love to try Windows 10 but with my business being as hectic as it is, I can't afford to have a single app stop working. I just can't risk it... 
Gimp Is An Above Average Linux Application 
The Microsoft Paint that came with Windows 3.1 is a lot easier to use than Gimp.

Linux desktop software is hopeless. There are no decent development tools for Linux and there isn't even a "desktop" API. I mean, we are talking "no file open dialog" barren wasteland.

Linux can do non-gui things just fine.

No one ever gave proper attention to a decent Windows manager, so even 1980s DOS GUI applications have more sophistication than what is available on Linux.

Likely the reason is that you would have 2 types of college age kids:

1) The kind that won't touch trying to make something from sticks and stones and instead will make something for Windows or a mobile platform.

2) The hardcore "C programmer" that uses terminal apps, that will make something against the grain but gets withered by the overhead of building with "sticks and stones".

Short version: Why is there, for example, SDL or GTK or Qt or WxWidgets? Each one is an attempt to pave over this deficiency. Arguably SDL's expanded horizons give it unusually wide appeal, while the others are attempts of "wrong-way" ports of Linux ideas to a platform that isn't in need of those solutions.

/One perspective. Probably wrong ... 
@Spirit 
Most likely the Windows update cache is gone corrupt and just needs to be reset. It's rare but it happens.

net stop wuauserv
cd \
cd %Windir%
cd SoftwareDistribution
del /f /s /q Download
net start wuauserv 
 
wat 
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