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Yep. 
I Broke Quaddicted 
 
Break Your Own 
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What's the address to the page on Quaddicted with the last 50 ratings or so? It was posted here somewhere a few weeks ago but I can't seem to find it. 
 
/reviews/log.php?number=50 
Welcome To The Cunt Circus 
Stop shitting on other people's subjective opinions or I will make ratings non-public.

Madfox: <3 
Hey Spirit. 
Stop letting people abuse your system with multiple accounts
Question 
How can you tell that's the same person? 
 
No-one's shitting on others' subjective opinions. Troll downvoters don't express subjective opinions, they only shit on people's work out of spite for no valid reason. You should do something about them rather than threatening to make the ratings non-public. 
I Had A Look And Otp Is Correct 
It does indeed look like someone is registering multiple accounts and systematically down-voting certain maps/mods. 
Pritchard 
All signs of suspicious activity: recent registrations, same or similar ratings on the uploads in question (as in this case, AD, ITS, and sock maps generally), similar levels of activity (~20 ratings) done before moving onto another account. 
#triggered 
Man, how shallow and low does one's life have to be to do that kind of shit.

I've been around the internet for a fair while and probably done some pretty shitty things, but I don't ever recall systematically trying to reduce somebody else's work like that. Like seriously, was this person not hugged enough as a child? Have some god dammed integrity and address your beef like an adult, with words and stuff.

Seriously, I don't even mind trolling, because lets face it, who doesn't like a well written shitpost.

But downvoting somebody else's work because you have a personal beef with them, and NOT because of the quality of their work is a shitty shitty thing to do.

If that shit is happening, fuck them. If that person is reading this. Here is my message to you: Go into the bathroom, take a good look in the mirror and decide whether you like the person that you're staring at. Get some help or find something positive to channel your energy into. Your actions make you look like a child. 
 
otp: Proof?

Mugwump: What?

Write code to automatically detect abusive behavior, then provide low-click solutions and I might give it a try.

Trolls exist, just look around this forum. Guess why I don't come here anymore. 
 
So you looked at that and decided "nope, nothing worth looking into".

How do you go through your day without forgetting how to breathe? 
 
I prefer enjoying my days actually breathing instead of getting my girl panties in a knot about imaginary internet points. I could not care less about some petty trolling and I am not going to waste precious life time on some vague accusations. 
 
It seems some people are troll upvoting certain maps/mods:

https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/log.php?number=22 
Parubaru 
I voted on sock's maps because I haven't voted on them before, and felt it was appropriate.

In other news, go eat shit you insipid, boring cunt. 
Kinn 
Expect an angry email from Spirit stating "trolling and other abusing behaviour is not welcome" any minute now. 
It's That Time Of The Year Again 
When Spirit forgot to pay the hosting bill yet again... 
 
Cha Ching 
Donation complete. 
Is Quaddicted Main Page Kinda Broken Atm? 
It seems like recent activity doesn't refresh from some moment 
Why Can't You Sort By Rating For Speedmaps And Jams? 
 
Having Trouble Downloading From Quaddicted? 
Trouble 
My only trouble is that I released a SP map back in September and it didn't get a screenshot on the front page.

Guess it didn't rate. :(

No troubles at all in Los Angeles downloading for the record. 
Connection Failed 
Bit of a bump and a long shot here, but does anyone who uses Quaddicted run Waterfox as their web browser? I switched over from Firefox a couple days ago and only just discovered Quaddicted is totally unreachable in WF, citing an error where the 'authenticity of the received data could not be verified.' So far as I can see I don't have any settings that would be blocking it and it loads just fine in other browsers, some quick Googling suggests it's due to a depreciated method of data transfer from the site?

I'll keep a second browser installed just for Quaddicted, but was wondering if anyone had run into the same issue. 
Quaddicted Yearly Fundraising 
It's that time again! Just making sure everyone who cares is aware.

https://www.quaddicted.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=533 
 
@schbirid
Dec 16
Fuck func, fuck terrafusion. Keep your hostility to your own "community", you insensitive shitheads.


Yeah maybe not. 
 
Okee doke. 
At Least Post The Context. 
 
Yo scampie. Ill be honest, kind of sad to see you rate the pack a 1 just based on the drama alone.

When the people directly involved with the pack NEVER SPOKE DOWN ON REPUS. Naitelveni, Skacky, and myself.

Sounds like this whole situation is people assuming the intentions of the WHOLE(func_) based on the actions of a few(those who spoke down to Repus).

Oh and I emailed Repus. He enjoyed the pack and literally didnt give a fuck about the title.

Go map. 
Dear Scampie. 
Are you sure you want me to reply to one of your posts again? 
Quaddicted Drama Spam Thread 
Seeing as everyone is so mad in the community regarding func_/tf and Quaddicted, why don't the func_ bois go and start their own donation fund to host a replacement :-))) 
The Internet 
= srs bizniz


For reals though everyone needs to chill out. Maybe take a break from the forums 
 
lol uuuuuh ok

hold my hand daddy im scared 
 
The thing I always liked about Spirit is that he was underpowered and non-elite, much like my own newbie self, but he never stop pursuing his goals.

He was always awesome to intermittently pay attention to, because he had ideas.

He kept at it and over time he scaled up and got what he wanted, making mistakes a long the way but then he'd learn/revisit/fix.

And ultimately he would finish something that was in many ways a ridiculously impossible idea at the time.

While keep the altruism and spirit of open source as themes -- a noble act. 
Personally I Don't Care About The Speedmapping Drama And All That Jaz 
but i like spirit, and i miss him 
The Question Is... 
Would all the drama go away if otp went away?

I don't have a dog in this fight but this is a question that came to mind reading these recent posts. 
#415 
 
Yeah OTP had nothing to do with this situation. 
Sowweee Otp 
I guess reading the few your antagonistic posts above, coupled with the remembrance that your posts can be some of the most toxic here, made me think of that question.

Again, I look at this all from a distance and most times it just makes me laugh. 
 
Sorry if posting a quote of Spirit is antagonistic to you. 
 
It's not OTP.
This is bound to happen in a narcissistic group where dick jokes, in-crowd memes and personal cults are the gold standard and empathy a rarity. If anything OTP has simply played some tunes that were inspired by all this in the first place. 
 
Dang post #420 coming in with the realness.

Blaze it fam! 
420 
Could anything else really be expected after so many years? 
@420 
What the hell are you smoking man?

Just because we're blunt does not mean that we're narcissistic or unempathetic. Dick jokes and in crowd memes are common among any small community who enjoy non-PC humour.

Even if you're correct about OTP and he is a bad actor, asserting that it is this place that is at fault/breeds that kind of behaviour and not the fault of his individual actions is foolish.

Also what the fuck is a personal cult and where is there one here? I haven't seen one.

Next time post with your name, otherwise map more, troll less. 
 
...that wasn't a troll Shamblernaut, that was a guy saying exactly what many of the old-schoolers of this community have realized over the last several years: We've created and encouraged a toxic atmosphere on this board that enables the constant abuse and negativity that goes on now. It was wrong to do and be ok with this shit then, it's still wrong now.

And these aren't new criticisms of the community (and aren't so different than the criticisms of gaming culture as a whole), people were calling us Qboard posters elitist jerks ~20 years ago, but this is the latest chance to confront these problems and maybe do it right this time. I was always the one making some of your same arguments then, but you learn and grow and so should a community.

Drama isn't going to go away by ignoring it, telling people to just 'go map' and pretending like the causes are 'just how things are' and that makes it acceptable. Just means you've limited the community to assholes, people who are ok with assholes, and idiots who don't realize they are surrounded by the shit of all these assholes. That's no way to run a community when you want it to also be encouraging of creative and interesting voices; because what exists right now only feeds biases, revels in its own ignorance, and glorifies bludgeoning anyone who has "wrong opinions" to feel a bit superior. And if it takes only a few bad apples to spoil the bunch, well it takes even less in a smaller community.

But, since you seem to love "non-PC humor", a codeword for dunking on minorities and people different than you and it somehow being ok because 'free speech!', maybe you want to be surrounded by assholes? Realize though that all the truly smart and interesting and talented people will be less and less excited to be around such garbage and will dwindle more and more; and maybe when some sycophant in the community decides you're target of the moment and chases your every move around the internet telling you to kill yourself and that you're a jew sjw cuck like someone does to sock and MFX and me; you'll have no one to care and be bothered to defend you anymore and you'll wonder if a few silly Quake maps was worth that. 
 
Wait, why was #420 deleted? It was completely on topic and worth discussing. 
 
SM181: A Map pack that....eh fuck it 
#425 
Maybe the tone, the contents were understandable given the situation the community is. 
Dude Chill 
If a person posts anonymously blaming a whole community for the actions of a couple of people, then yes... They're trolling.

If they have a problem with an individual and their actions, then they should take it up with them.

I find it pretty odd to go into somebody else's online space (not that we don't welcome everybody here), and anonymously rag on their community. I don't do it to others and I expect the same from them.

Telling people to go map is me telling them to do something more productive with their time than continuing the drama. 
Scampie: 
Haven't read the rest, sorry, I'm not really following this discussion, but:

We've created and encouraged a toxic atmosphere on this board that enables the constant abuse and negativity that goes on now.

Not sure I agree with that, I am seeing some good discussions on here, lots of good chat from indepth discussions to standard banter on discord, some great streaming / playthroughs, and of course a fuck ton of cool releases.

FWIW Shamblernaut is definitely part of that positivity, in all of those ways above (+viewer interaction). 
 
Free speech is important. People evolve over time.

Someone who seems ignorant today, might be someone who maybe tomorrow has something of value to contribute -- or may be contributing in an what seems like an "unwanted way".

The weakest communities on the internet are the ones with censorship.

They have "me too" group think like Facebook and other places where having independent thought probably means getting "banned".

Excellence is not necessarily politely. The truth can also be rude. Sometimes an unpopular person has something valuable to say.

The best way to figure these things out is a very ancient way ---> arguing.

The worst way to figure these things out is a very ancient way ---> silencing an unpopular person so they are denied the ability to express their thoughts. 
@scampie 
I'll never get to know what post #420 said, apparently.

But I will tell you this, conventional wisdom about "jerks" is wrong.

The adage goes "Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you will experience."

That it is dead wrong.

Engage an "idiot" (who am I to make that judgment, I'm not qualified and I won't) and raise the bar so they have to think.

If they are an "idiot" force them to think. And do NOT pre-judge them.

Raise the conversation to your level and then find out where that discussion leads!

Civility is demonstrating to the barbarian that your system of ethics is so strong that it can even accommodate the "unwashed" into your equation of fairness and do so effortlessly.

That your superior levels of ethics is so powerful and so generous that will it will treat the unfair with fairness -- and do it without batting an eye.

Kindness to those that least expect such treatment is the ultimate display of strength.

Strength is something that those that have made the journey hope to share with others! It permeates. It penetrates. It is the irresistible goodness wrapped up with the force of justice and fairness in a single package. 
Unfortunately, Baker 
that only works in an ideal world. Not saying that it doesn't work, but that it works only for some people and against some others: When engaging with unreasonable persons in that composed, confident going by facts and reasoning way, it is the most common thing to get brushed off, mocked, ignored, or in a more ''modern way'' be called a normal-old-new-fag, with them closing off their hearts and ears to anything they don't approve or supported by what they think they know or its normal, going to the point of twisting reality to extreme points in the worst cases as time passes.

I also thought that way also back when i was young, and saw others try it too, but facts, putting doubts on their minds and proof don't help in a conversation when the other side is confronting you: in my experience, charisma, patience, reputation, followers, very strong self-confidence and/or even forcefulnesses, or having the support of someone with those characteristics will convince or at least put doubts on those persons way better than that way.

That's why ''Don't feed the troll'' or "Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you will experience." advice are useful, as most of us don't have enough of those characteristics to pull what you say of and would end up entangled on the flamer/troll plan. Not that we should follow those advices always, but having them at hand is a ''necessary evil'' for most of us.

Also, if you want to know what that guy said, it was a very small text (4 lines) around the lines that Func was filled and promoted dick jokes, in crowd memes and personal cults amongst others, and that Onetruepurple was just someone going with that dance, not one of the perpetrators or promoters. That with less composed words, of course, but not resorting to insults if i remember well. 
Any News On GDPR Implementation? 
Spirit has blocked access to Quaddicted from European IPs since the 4th of August. Any news on the progress of implementing GDPR on the site?

I need my regular fix of custom maps and withdrawal symptoms are starting to show. D: 
#tf Sez. 
[7:21 PM] Shambler: it's a bit of paranoia but a bit justified from what i recall?
[7:21 PM] Shambler: very very small chance of there being a problem but spirit is worrying about it
[7:21 PM] Shambler: i hope it gets sorted
[7:21 PM] Shambler: wasn't fric going to help him or something?
[7:23 PM] Friction: @Shambler what. no.
[7:24 PM] Friction: he needs to stop being a giant dumb
[7:25 PM] Friction: this is not about copyright
[7:25 PM] Friction: that's not what GDRP is about
[7:25 PM] Shambler: copyright is the new data protection thingy whatsite?
[7:25 PM] Shambler: personal data
[7:26 PM] Friction: it's not something you can litigate over just like that. you have to file a complaint to the data protection commissioner
[7:27 PM] Friction: and if you're being stupidly egregrious about it, they we go "hey, knock it off you dumbo"
[7:28 PM] Friction: unless you're a multi-hunrder million corp selling stuff IDs to china or something, then fines start to enter picture
[7:28 PM] Shambler: but this is like someone saying "yo spirit u got all mah fucking log-in details and this shit i wrote and argn't giving me full control about it so ima gonna sue y ass"??
[7:28 PM] Friction: "The Commissioner's main priority is to make sure that an organisation respects your rights and puts matters right. Most breaches of the Data Protection Acts are not offences. This means that an organisation cannot be punished by the Courts."
[7:29 PM] Friction: so get spirit on the paranoia-phone and tell him to stop sweating bullets
[7:29 PM] Friction: additionally
[7:29 PM] Friction: "The Data Protection Commissioner has no role whatsoever in dealing with compensation claims. Where the Commissioner upholds or partially upholds your complaint against an organisation, that does not give you a right to compensation."
[7:29 PM] Friction: this kills frivolous litigation
[7:30 PM] Friction: Section 7 of data protection acts from like early 2000 ALREADY covers this crap litigationwise
[7:31 PM] Friction: so sheesh. calm down.
[7:31 PM] neggers: well, there are lawyer trolls who sue for small infractions or if something's not 100% according to the regulations, not because it's an acutal issue, but for their own financial benefit
[7:31 PM] muk: all this time telling us and you could be telling spirit :qdumb:
[7:31 PM] Friction: well he's not here is he
[7:31 PM] neggers: it's unlikely to be a problem for quaddicted, but still
[7:31 PM] Friction: the nexus of information and valuable opinions, #tf
[7:31 PM] Friction: argh, discord, pls
[7:32 PM] Friction: i swear. this thing at times
[7:32 PM] Friction: anyways. if it's litigation he is worried about, he should have started worrying 20 years ago. GDRP has nothing to do with that shit
[7:33 PM] Shambler: fric
[7:33 PM] Shambler: tell him this
[7:33 PM] Shambler: spirit @ quaddicted.com or #whatevz
[7:33 PM] Friction: *farts in a jar and sends as overnight parcel*
[7:34 PM] Shambler: excellent
[7:34 PM] Shambler: fric is the litigation advisor i trust
 
Lawyers 
I offered financial support to Spirit so he could contact a lawyer weeks ago. I'm sure there are others that would pitch in.

As a community, we need to come up with better options for these legacy files that are now basically being held hostage -- for lack of a better term. 
 
At a minimum we need a different maps-archive URL at which to point Quake Injector (and Mark V installs). I could run something on AWS, maybe use Amazon Lightsail? Not sure if there's a better option. 
 
Actually... I'll experiment with setting up something in an S3 bucket. Will report back. 
#437 
If there's any need for paid services I would be happy to pitch in. Until I retire that is - then I will be pinching serious pennies. 
 
Ideally Spirit will do whatever is necessary to return to being comfortable with leaving Quaddicted open, but for now I'm making a snapshot of the filebase directory here: http://quaddicted-mirror.s3-website-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/filebase/index.html

(in progress, not everything is there yet)

If this becomes a necessary thing we can worry about a custom domain name or whatever else.

I will poke around with it more later to see if it can play nice with Quake Injector etc. I'm sure I'll need to also mirror the database XML and maybe the review pages for that purpose.

There's also all the other Quaddicted files of course, we eventually might need to save those too. 
 
OK I added these three lines to the config.properties for Quake Injector and I was able to use it through a French VPN endpoint that can't access Quaddicted:

ScreenshotRepositoryPath=http\://quaddicted-mirror.s3-website-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/reviews/screenshots/
RepositoryDatabasePath=http\://quaddicted-mirror.s3-website-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/reviews/quaddicted_database.xml
RepositoryBasePath=http\://quaddicted-mirror.s3-website-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/filebase/

Screenshots are not showing up in the injector though, even though I do have the screenshots mirrored. Not sure what's up with that.

Mark V installs should be able to use this similarly by setting the install_depot_source console variable to that filebase URL.

Of course keep in mind that this is just a snapshot of some Quaddicted content from this morning... I don't have any regular syncing set up. 
 
Oh I see what's up with the screenshots. They're special image URLs that are different than the ones used on the review pages. I'll see what I can do about that later -- not quite as easy to bulk-grab those. 
To Europeans 
OTP has posted this link on Discord. Totally free, works great! Now we can all enjoy Quaddicted again.

Thanks again OTP! 
O_O 
Whoah, that's amazing, a free proxy service! :D Thanks, OTP; and Mugwump, for sharing it at func! 
 
This is good for bitcoinfunc_msgboard anon shitposting 
Quaddicted Available For Europeans! 
Rejoice, Europeans, for Spirit has unblocked the site! He'd still like some help with making the site GDPR compliant, but at least we no longer need proxy sites to access Quaddicted. 
GG WP Spirit. 
 
Nice 
 
Thanks For The Heads-up 
 
Thx To All Contributors 
Hoping Is here it‘ll stay Up. 
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