That was mentioned in the best editor thread. That only applies once you've already begun moving the vert. 

Maybe instead of holding [SHIFT] AFTER you've started dragging a vertex, it would be best to have two different keys to select the axis BEFOREHAND, like for example [SHIFT] for the x axis and the >/< key next to it for the y axis. Or maybe even simplier and more intuitively, [X] and [Y] keys. The latter would imply using the [Z] key for z axis lock, freeing [ALT] for other context-sensitive manipulations. Sleep, does that sound good to you? 

How about having a separate right-click functionality. You can keep free movement of vertices/edges on the left-click, but have right-click draw some axis arrows on the vert so you can click and drag on the axis you want to use. 

Maybe a better way would be to select either x or y axis beforehand with a simple toggle key like [ALT] does with the z axis?

The problem is that it's very hard to select the correct axis that way. Either you make it relative to the camera, i.e., left/right and forward/backward, but then it becomes guesswork if the camera angle is close to a multiple of 45 degrees. Or you make it so that the keys are hard wired to a specific axis, (i.e., X locks to X axis always), but then you still have to take a moment and think about which axis you wanted to lock to. We already had that system in an earlier revision, and it did not work very well.

The current system allows you to select the lock axis by moving the mouse into the direction in which you want to go anyway. It's simply the best option IMO and I don't see why it shouldn't work.

You can keep free movement of vertices/edges on the left-click, but have right-click draw some axis arrows on the vert so you can click and drag on the axis you want to use.

Right click is already used for other purposes. What you're suggesting boils down to using a handle like many professional modeling tools do:

https://phoenixanimation.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/translate_handle1.png

We have toyed with this idea a couple of years ago, and it has its merits. But in the end I decided against it because it requires you to click into precise areas to select the axis of movement.

The system we have now is essentially liftet from SketchUp, and I think it is far superior to all of the above ideas. So far you guys have made suggestions how axis lock could be done, but you haven't mentioned any particular scenarios where the current system doesn't work, or I have missed it. What is the problem, apart from that you may be used to doing things differently from other programs? 

But in the end I decided against it because it requires you to click into precise areas to select the axis of movement and I wanted the user to be able to just click and drag on objects to move them. That was the main reason for the current system, and it's a big part of why TB is regarded as intuitive by many users. 

Having basically only used TB and TB2 for my Quake editing needs, I can say I find the navigation, commands, and everything else work great! I actually only use the 3D view! (So far) 

I mentioned my problems in the other thread and I think you responded to it. When I try shaping brushes to match the curvature of, say, an arch texture, I have a lot of troubling getting an edge to slide along only the x-axis. In the current system, to reliably move an edge/vertex in the direction you want you must position the camera above the vertex so your viewing angle is large. But if you do that, then you usually can't see the texture you're trying to match in the first place. If I want to see the texture, I have to make the camera coplanar with the x-axis, which makes dragging something on the x-axis almost impossible. That's why we need lock functions. I think a bind to enable handles on a vertex/edge would be very useful. 

Providing constructive feedback is one of the definitions of supportive lol 

and I appreciate your feedback. My main objective is to make TB as easy to use as possible.

Can you post a screenshot of the situation you were describing in post 2315? I think I understand it, but I'm not sure. 

[QUOTE]Or you make it so that the keys are hard wired to a specific axis, (i.e., X locks to X axis always), but then you still have to take a moment and think about which axis you wanted to lock to.[/QUOTE]
I don't see much difference between taking a moment to check the axis and taking a (possibly longer) moment to position the camera. The advantage of my solution is that holding [X], [Y] or [Z] seems more intuitive than the current system (which is already very good, as Bloughsburgh said) and it would solve Sevin's problem. I don't see how it wouldn't work very well.

On a side note, MWHEEL click+drag to position the view currently stops the camera panning when the cursor hits the screen borders. Would it be possible to make it continue infinitely? 

I'm not at home right now, but I will when I get back. If this clarifies any more, I'm just working with a vertical brush that I want to chop around a door texture. The situation I'm describing is when I'm trying to create the actual arch brushes. I'll make a video when I get home for you. 

Off-topic (sorry): How do you guys make your quotations white like that? I thought the [QUOTE] tag would do the trick but apparently not. 

Probably just using HTML color codes for it, not actually quotes. 

<q >But without the spaces.</q > 

<q >But without the spaces.</q >

Cool. 

(whoever you are) 

The advantage of my solution is that holding [X], [Y] or [Z] seems more intuitive than the current system (which is already very good, as Bloughsburgh said) and it would solve Sevin's problem. I don't see how it wouldn't work very well.

Well, maybe you don't see it, but it was tried and discarded for the very reason that it doesn't work. The argument that it may prevent you from having to reposition the camera does not hold for me because 1) expecting to not have to move the camera in a 3D view is unrealistic IMO and 2) you can use orbit mode to very quickly reposition the camera.

It looks like we'll have to agree to disagree. Or you can try if one of the older betas still contains the old axis locking (the first 2.0 beta might) and see for yourself why it doesn't work better than what we have now. Or maybe it works better for you, but I'm afraid that I'm not inclined to change it again.

On a side note, MWHEEL click+drag to position the view currently stops the camera panning when the cursor hits the screen borders. Would it be possible to make it continue infinitely?

That's a limitiation with wxWidgets on Windows and unfortunately there's nothing I can do about it. 

Or maybe it works better for you, but I'm afraid that I'm not inclined to change it again.
That's OK, I'm used to it by now. I was speaking from the perspective of the total n00b who tackles TB for the first time (which I was just a few weeks ago).

unfortunately there's nothing I can do about it.Damn. Oh well, fly mode can serve as a workaround, but it would've been nice to be able to do that. 

Sat down to record and I can't open the map I was working on. I tried other maps from AD and the base maps and they all through the same error:

"Cannot load compilation configuration 'Quake\CompilationProfiles.cfg': Unexpected character: $ [line 7, column 22]"

I'm guessing this was caused when I tried setting up a compile process, but I can't launch any maps because of it and I can't find the file. 

*threw 

Please create a report on github and attach the file located at

C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\TrenchBroom\games\Quake\CompilationProfiles.cfg 

C:\Users\username>\AppData\Roaming\TrenchBroom\games\Quake\CompilationProfiles.cfg 

C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\TrenchBroom\games\Quake\CompilationProfiles.cfg

Where USERNAME is your, well, user name. 

I don't know of any alternative libraries apart from Qt, but how bound to WxWidgets is TB anyway? It kind of feels like it's limiting the application in a few ways these days, like with that dragging issue I opened on Github and the inability to lock the cursor to the window.

I can't imagine UI development is much fun, so I don't blame you for not wanting to move away from what you already have, but it is getting a bit painful to see such annoyances. 

Done.