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Hardest Map?
What do you consider the hardest quake single player map? Having said that i actualy mean the biggest challenge or something.

There are ofcourse a couple of types of hard, but im intrested in any suggestions

-imossible: no exit or something alike
-near impossible due to over population/not enough resources or room to move: something like sm39_ap
- puzzle maps, but once you figured out the puzzle the challenge is gone
-hard acrobatics
-tricky triggers
-big epic map with 100's of monsters
-very well tought out encounters where the mappers is fully aware of the monsters Ai and quake acrobatic possibilitys
Not Sure If This Is What You Mean, But 
I reminded myself recently of something I did at the end of the warp pack - warps.bsp is basically a 10 minute slaughter where you don't have chance to think, just have to rely on muscle memory to get through it.

It's pretty intense and it takes like 20 quickloads to get through it. But its so immediate that dying doesn't feel too much of a chore.

Wouldn't work on a full map or anything without trigger_checkpoint and catapulting the player into fast reaction butcherworks on every one.

Was just something daft I put in as a reward for finding all the runes. 
... 
my speedmap... it's pretty hard to not fall through the floor into the void. ;) 
Distrans Made That Doom 3 Map 
If you play that on skill 2 or 3 it's rock hard to finish. Possible though :O 
Yeah 
Ruined Nation.

I love that map. 
This One: 
Warps 
Wasnt that hard I did it when i did the warpspeed project. Ofcourse the fiends did get me a bunch of times, but I was kind of in speedrunning mode and i doubt i woul have much trouble if i would do it in survival mode, think i still got it on my hd... Jep i do remember it as a fun map lets try to improve it some :) 
Perhaps Not The 'Hardest' 
Not long ago played a frustrating, tough map with hostile traps and situations not in favour of the player.

The Last Game: http://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/lastgame.html
My review; http://taw.duke4.net/2013/04/quake/the-last-game/ 
Hardest Good Maps. 
Warpspasm. For all the obvious reasons. 
The Last Game 
isn't that hard IMO. I found the difficulty to be enjoyable without being hugely frustrating. 
Warpspasm 
Was awesome. Hard in a good, bot overly frustrating way. 
 
But not 
 
I think Ruined Nation is the hardest I've played so far, hands down. Warpspasm is also very hard overall (especially on Nightmare), and this reminds me that I should finish my LP someday. I think warpc is the hardest 'conventional' map in the pack (those Gugs near the silver key door are real devils), but warps is by far the hardest just because it throws so many powerful monsters at you. 
 
I made a speedmap that had some hard jumps and stuff, I think it might have been a theme? Don't remember, but I played it recently and could barely do any of them. 
Fell Asleep 
was supposed to react yesterday but stood up early + fysical work: i just crashed :).
Warps turned out to be pretty hard indeed, atleast to try to beat my own record 1:04 on easy, but then i did a safish try on skill 3 and finished it first try in 1:24.(its the difference betwen being focused on dodging or focussing on pumping rockets into the droles , wich often leads to hitting fiends with your rocks and killing yourself).

Dis6 is hard on the harder skil levels indeed.Pretty strong monsters and not a lot of health to go by

Notoriuos do you mean that map where you had to end with a bunch of quadrj's to silly little buttons in the sky? if so that one was hard indeed (but for soem reason i have never foudn back that map while i have all speedmaps i could find.

For breakfast il have a look at the last game 
And All Of A Sudden Its Lunchtime :) 
Last game was mostly hard in a first try sense, so i decided to give dis6 another go. To have a decent chance on succes decided to skip a bunch and do some parts with a lot of care

http://members.upc.nl/verorber/dis6_nm.rar 
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sadism.bsp 
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