welcome DOOMer! 

One of big "rooms" in my map - http://i.imgur.com/ZQcomM4.png 

gl_texture_anisotropy 16 

Very retro hellish :) 

 

@onetruepurple
Ok, i change this cvar for future shots.

@Bloughsburgh
Yes :) I would like to make it more modern, but don't know how.

@Newhouse
Oh yeah, I love that red sky, vanilla sky from Quake I like less 

Looks great DOOMer! 

So topher where's the assets?

Anyways
I recommend downloading the jam666.zip file for two texwads. 

ah, i made some
but i want to check typical widths and lengths. numbers that pop up: 128 units (a lot), 96, 192, 160.

also, TB was crashing, so i waited for new releases. with 2.0 RC2 it doesn't crash anymore.

also, now i know how to make torus, pipes, staircases in a fast way. at least with regular forms, then it can be customized with a little vertex editing, or adding detail brushes on the surfaces of the regular form.

btw, there is a program that can record the screen of the computer AND print the keys and clicks that you are using in the video? so i can make a video 

It sounds like great work you're doing. Thank you.

Just wondering whether it's a good idea to make brush prefabs available to other newbie mappers in a project like this. Personally I think tutorials are great, but that new mappers should be creating their own assets, rather than copy+paste-ing someone else's work. I mean, QUMP is mainly about giving people an opportunity to learn and practice everything that goes into making a playable map, including creating their *own* brushwork. 

yeah, that was the other thing that i was thinking
i learn a lot trying to make things.

but also there is a optimum way to make certain things

specially more complex things like pipes or staircases, for example

i'm trying to see if there is a way to make spheres (and aproximation, that is) of arbitrary sizes 

If mappers want to use someone's else prefabs or samples, in sake of learning it might not be that bad in fact. Only the extreme case might be that there is two totally identical maps, and clear cases of directly using someone's else prefabs, but if you can avoid those kind of side effects, then it should be fine I think. 

 

little sphere
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B72Jjyg-RfNFU05ibm1LRll6N2M

i don't like it very much 

I have uploaded another screenshot to http://imgur.com/a/rpWeb . You may notice that I'm using the Arcane Dimensions devkit.

So far I have used: rotating brushes for the traps in the hall, the entity state system in order to properly link two trigger_multiples, and the a custom particle emitter for the smoke in the middle of the hall. I have a few more ideas but at the very least I need to add breakables (remember the stained glass that leads to the staircase?).

The use of AD has been discussed before, but I now realize that a faithful remake/remix of Winnowing Hall cannot be created without it. I'm really enjoying mapping, but it has proven to be very time consuming. There's a good chance that this will be both my first and my last map.

I don't want to cause any fuss here. If you all agree that AD doesn't belong in QUMP then I will respect that and I will leave the project without any hard feelings. In any case, I want to thank HexenMapper for creating QUMP because it finally made me mapping. And I have every intention of finishing this map!

- Jheronimus 

Winnowing Hall is a great map, AD would be able to do it justice in a lot of ways. 

i'm open to use AD

technical aspects are no issue for me, and i can make it as complicated as i want to, like sock said in twitter 

If you have to use AD, thats fine, we'll make it work (I hope ?). You're right that the breakables are a must for that map if you want to do it faithfully.

Is it possible to have one map in AD in and the rest vanilla? will we still be able to put them in the same .pk3 file or will it cause trouble and will we have to do all maps as AD? I understand it changes weapon physics and a few other things? 

It would be far, far easier to have any maps using AD/other mods be their own separate thing. As far as I know, AD can load/play vanilla maps, but it does change aspects of the gameplay in them. And there's no feasible way to have both AD and id1 (vanilla) in the same gamedir/pk3. 

@HexenMapper
If one map is in AD, soon everyone will be in AD. Even Pritchard can make his map work in vanilla style, even though it had a lot of breakable objects.

@Jheronimus
This is just the suggestion, but could you make it work without breakables or rotating brushes? You can always submit your standalone version of your map separately? (extra promo to be honest, if it is in qump too). 

Unfortunately that specific map really relies on breakables - notably all the breakable glass windows, one being "structural" to the flow of the map.

It could be done in vanilla, but you'd end up with glass that opens like a door and doesn't have a smashing sound - not the same... but technically do-able.

Problem is everyone else is mapping in vanilla (and I'd like to keep it that way), and if there's no way to combine them into the same file, it would mean Jheronimus' map is left out in a separate file, and wont be able to be part of the hub that joins everything together.

I guess its up to you Jheronimus, if you can make your map work in vanilla, it would be great, otherwise I'm happy to include it, but it will be a separate file and not part of the connecting hub. 

to do everything in that map without mods (no need to use doors to simulate breakables, there is several way better methods), but it won't be completely the same. And it will need to rely heavily into hacking.

On the other way, you really should do keep your hands from any mod for your first maps, or it will happen the same as to Jheronimus: you will end up overworked, overwhelmed and overfocused on the features of the mod and won't have the energy to work on the maps themselves. The result, you'll be tired of mapping long before getting to half the map. The best is to keep things simple to avoid that.

That's why the ideal for first maps are speedmaps: as they can be done fast and won't tire neither the body or mind. Play any besides sm175 and sm177 for reference. When you get the speedmap done, like how it ended, and you still have the energies to continue, is when you can get to think about bigger things, like to continue it or to connect several of them to make a bigger one.

An yes, there is no way to connect maps from different mods. That happened before and ended in the maps that weren't geared towards the mod being broken and lots of problems. 

i like that speed map idea

i will see what i c4n m4k3 1n f0ur h0ur5.
if i have the time, i will map 2 hours today, 2 hours tomorrow, and shove the result unto you here 

Hello, everyone. I want to join the project. I'm newbie at mapmaking, so it will be my first experience.

Here are few screenshots of my map:
Main arena: http://i.imgur.com/NSZRdUN.png,
http://i.imgur.com/6YfQZ0T.png
Prison room(1 of 4): http://i.imgur.com/mt1uMFK.png 

That's some radical looking stuff right there. I like the mix of liquids in the main room. The prison hallway is elongated creepiness!