And Preach. Necros gave me a vague response of you'll-figure-it-out. Preach never answered me. Quoth one is Kell's anyways, don't know how to get a hold of him.

Thanks for the benefit of the doubt otp. 

Stuff like this is making it very hard for me and others to fully support this project.

A few years ago I would have agreed with you OTP, but it seems like so long since Quoth had a major update that I think it's less of an issue. It's not abandonware per-say, but it certainly seems like the developers don't have much riding on it anymore. Of course Kell, Necros and Preach may wholeheartedly disagree with me, but until they come out and fight their corner I don't see much reason for QMaster to cease and desist as long as he gives full credit wherever necessary. 

Preach is actively supporting Quoth, by the way of maintaining the documentation and the launcher, and has hinted about future fixes in the jam 9 thread. Kell, whose previous release hinted on a future release, and who's been willing to discuss Quoth 3 on func in the past, has released a new map for jam 9.

This doesn't spell out "Quoth is dead, it's fine to decompile it" to me. 

You build on the work of others, learning and developing new ideas by combining old ones. Scientists cite. Artists create. Mods are a bit more blurred between the two but I am attempting to make sure credit is given to all the many authors in as thorough a way possible before 1.0 release.

The goal of this uber mod is to provide mappers the tools they need to build the best maps they can without being limited to a specific set of features in only one mod. To exclude Quoth [Kell, et al] would be like writing a paper on games and never citing the works of Nintendo. Quoth is one of the best mods ever made for Quake and builds on several mods before it but with a wonderful Lovecraftian flavor. I would do a disservice in having an uber mod at all that excluded Quoth. That much is already obvious from several people asking why certain Quoth features are missing.

[Kell, Preach. 2014. Quoth 2.2.Full, https://tomeofpreach.wordpress.com/quoth/ ] 

OTP is not the final arbiter of what is right and good in the Quake community. If you've made an attempt with the original authors (as it sounds like you have) then I see no issue with decompiling something that should have been open-source in the first place according to the traditions of the Quake community. Now if there is a readme somewhere that states otherwise I'd say honor it. To me it's odd the source is not available freely already. For as much as Preach likes to help others with tutorials it's pretty baffling. 

really wish quoth had the enforcers gun, that was more unique than rapid fire rocket launcher that is basically the plasma gun.

sounded cool, ripped things up, and bounced around, more unique than the plasma 

 

I think its the SOA one 

You mean the laser cannon! Best gun ever technically since it has the highest damage per second of any weapon. Already included here. 

Yeah why isnt it included in base quoth tho, the scorpion monster is 

Fixed antigravity belt not working.
Fixed ladder gravity bug (reverted faulty patch).
Added archer from Drake.
Added Nemesant from Drake (updated version of Zerstorer enemy). 

So where can i download this, I want to make maps with lasers

hell ill even mod up my new map to work around this mod if you want a map to release with it. 

Global states and ability to revisit levels and trigger events based on which state was set in another level. Uses ebv_global and logic_auto similar to Half-Life 2. 

Hub map A has two exits with one exit to a map C blocked. Player exits to map B. In map B, player performs event that triggers an env_global whose .flags is set to a particular bit (1, 2, 4, 8, etc.) which then gets turned on in the global variable globalstate. Player leaves map B to go back to map A, logic_auto with a statetarget# set targets and unlocks the exit...or targets an entity_state_enable to enable a trigger, or sets up different enemies to spawn, etc.

statetarget1 corresponds to value of 1, startetarget2 to 2, statetarget3 to 4, etc.

I may end up adding the statetargets to SUB_UseTargets so any entity can target something if a globalstate is set. 

"So where can i download this... "

Here: http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61511 

let the age of enforcer gun begin... 

so how does this work with trenchbroom. i told it to load the fgd file but nothing happens 

How about reloading,if possible?
Also you add telefragged mode with
telefregged-no-weapons and telefragged-axe-only.
and also devices which continue the story like the laptops in Poke646:Vendetta(HL MOD) or anything else.

God,we might need an UBER Engine for this.Maybe even DP's csqc stuff.

Also in the other thread you said you were using studiomdl? Isn't that half-life's model compiler? 

How about reloading,if possible?
Also you add telefragged mode with
telefregged-no-weapons and telefragged-axe-only.
and also devices which continue the story like the laptops in Poke646:Vendetta(HL MOD) or anything else.

God,we might need an UBER Engine for this.Maybe even DP's csqc stuff.

Also in the other thread you said you were using studiomdl? Isn't that half-life's model compiler? 

reloading

Yeah. Whilst you're at it, every download should come with a free box of flesh eating worms to put under your eyelids. 

reloading 

Slipstorage suit to store infinite items plus bullet hosing and every weapon becomes a bottomless clip tool of destruction.

Story devices: Use misc_book, refer to ad_paradise for examples of reading non-books.

CSQC: Uh ya so....only if there isn't a better way of handling gfx.wad extensions than using something like -quoth, -hipnotic, -rogue, etc. We can worry about developing a simple method of assigning gfx.wad textures to weapon slots in qc later. 

I'm sure some people will use it. Good luck with getting everything working together bug-free... that's going to be a pain in the ass.

Balancing the thing is going to be a harder pain in the ass still... Unless you're going to leave it unbalanced and leave it to the mapper to balance things.

I really do struggle to understand why you would want to do this. I mean, to each their own and stuff...

This is a mammoth and pretty much thankless task. Good luck. 

are you going to implement the sarge from kinn bastion map to your mod? 

sarge from Bastion can work, but needs a more quakey skin, and shoot nails instead of the blue things