Func_Msgboard: Quake Christmas Calendar Jam

Posted by negke on 2017/09/03 20:13:15

sock talked me into this!

I considered doing some Xmas event for years, but it never happened for the usual reasons. Something like a Christmas calendar where there's a new little singleplayer map behind each door. Based on this and the fact that a big update for Arcane Dimensions is scheduled for Xmas, we came up with the idea for this mapping event:

24 x 1024^3 maps for AD

Essentially a mapping challenge. The maps should use AD and fit within a 1024*1024*1024 box, similar to what we did in SM127.

The restriction is tricky, and it should be interesting to see how people tackle it and make the most of the limited space. Think inside the box. Part of the reason for this is to keep the maps managable in terms of size and playtime. Small 5-10 minutes levels instead of huge limit-breaking megamaps that may not make the deadline. We need 24 in total!

The key is to re-use the space. Something along the lines of "climb up, drop down and the existing area changes, stuff spawns, stuff moves etc." This is where AD comes into play, as it offers a wide range of options and possibilities. Check out the test maps, use them as templates, experiment. This may be good practice and fun.

The deadline is 30-Nov-2017 18:00 (Func time).

Send to the email address in my profile. Needless to say, the maps need to be fully compiled and tested, have skill settings and run on AD 1.6. Must use standard BSP format and not exceed protocol 666 limits (aim for protocol 15 if possible).

If you have technical questions, sock can be messaged through the usual channels, preferably the Terrafusion discord. Or drop them here to be forwarded.

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Yay

#81 posted by bal on 2017/11/19 18:46:03

Shambler made me take another screenshot, so here :
http://born-robotic.net/stuff/qstuff/balxmasjama02.png

My map is almost done, just polishing stuff up, and tweaking gameplay a bit.

Nothing From Me

#82 posted by Zwiffle on 2017/11/19 20:10:38

Eating All The Advent Chocolate In One Day...

#83 posted by Redfield on 2017/11/19 20:44:43

December 22!?! And here I was cramming like a college student to have it done by the end of the week.

I guess this could give me time to add more Snowgies to the map:
https://i.imgur.com/TjAt3U1.jpg

The Frozen thing is really getting out of hand.

The screenshots look awesome everyone, even the editor shots. Look forward to playing!

Not Sure

#84 posted by Qmaster on 2017/11/19 22:08:04

This 1024 limit is cramping my style but maybe that's a good thing.

Still In It

#85 posted by ItEndsWithTens on 2017/11/20 00:38:20

I was all excited that despite a month of distractions, I was on schedule to get this thing done by the deadline. An extra few weeks is nonetheless more than welcome. Thank you!

I'm usually one to avoid tainting the fun of seeing the map for the first time, but I managed to find a location and angle that don't give anything away:

Tens

It's just a touch of atmosphere, nothing groundbreaking, but with all these other shots I couldn't help myself.

More time to refine all my ideas and hopefully get some other eyes on this before release is a godsend! Looking forward to the final result, and honestly kind of glad I won't have to spend December trying to crank out one Youtube video per day as the calendar was published. :D

#86 posted by - on 2017/11/20 01:12:26

I am still in. Put it off working on it far too long, and was actually worried about how much I was going to need to crunch on it this week while juggling Thanksgiving stuff, so thanks for deadline expansion.

TBH, think a single pack is a better idea than releasing stuff everyday... that felt like a doomed to failure concept anyway even if there had been 24 maps done for original deadline.

Still In It As Well.

#87 posted by Breezeep_ on 2017/11/20 01:46:34

Recently streamed myself making progress on my map. If I keep at it like this, I'll have it done in no time, hopefully.

Still In But

#88 posted by dumptruck_ds on 2017/11/20 04:04:42

... I think we can get to 24 now. I am very far behind but getting there. With the extension no problem.

https://imgur.com/3TK1yzj

Cool

#89 posted by PuLSaR on 2017/11/20 08:28:45

I started to make a map this jam yesterday, so there's a chance that a can finish it.

I'm Still In*

#90 posted by Newhouse on 2017/11/20 11:06:06

I'm Also In This Thing.

#91 posted by Danz on 2017/11/20 11:43:49

I only made the basic layout with prototype textures. But with deadline pushed away, it gives me time to test around in AD before implementing things in my map.

Prioritising Music At The Moment...

#92 posted by distrans on 2017/11/20 13:05:14

...so don't count me in. Looks like a great holiday load-out though. 2017, what a year!

I'm Out

#93 posted by lpowell on 2017/11/21 05:57:14

I wasted a bunch of time when I had it, and lately I'm more busy, and the free time for creative work I have I'm putting into writing. Considering I've been in a rut writing-wise for years I don't want that to go to waste. I won't be abandoning mapping, but things may take a while. I look forward to the completed jam/AD update though! Still gotta get around to taking QUMP and other recent releases for a spin....

I'm Out Too

#94 posted by Cocerello on 2017/11/22 09:23:35

I thought i should say it too, even though i haven't been counted in that list, for some strange reason.

I have been even more busy that i anticipated, and not even finished and not close to it the map i said earlier this thread that i was planning to release this year before this jam, so there won't be any releases from me at least till January and probably late February.

Might Have To Drop Out

#95 posted by ＰＲＩＴＣＨＡＲＤ on 2017/12/07 10:41:52

My map might be finished by the deadline but I didn't do a very good job of sticking to the limits - it needs BSP2 to compile now. Could still submit it but if it's not included in the jam I'll just release it separately.

Well

#96 posted by bal on 2017/12/07 11:45:40

My map has hit BSP2 as well, not sure that's an issue? BSP2 kind of felt like a given for AD stuff no? (Sorry negke! :D)

Bsp2 In 1024^3????

#97 posted by Qmaster on 2017/12/07 16:19:41

How? Just...how?

Rocks I Guess. :(

#98 posted by bal on 2017/12/07 17:46:37

And ...

#99 posted by Cocerello on 2017/12/07 19:49:19

it is 1024^3 PLAYABLE AREA, so they can do anything.

Some New Shots

#100 posted by ＰＲＩＴＣＨＡＲＤ on 2017/12/10 12:12:09

https://imgur.com/a/iDb5o

The map looks really different depending on the engine - I haven't really checked DP but QS and MarkV display the lighting quite differently. These are some MarkV shots.

Hopefully I can finish it in time...

#101 posted by ericw on 2017/12/10 18:38:40

MarkV has a cheat protection thing that combines the .lit file and .bsp lightmap values.
I thought I was compensating for it in my light tool to defeat the feature, but it sounds like there's a bug, I'll have a look..

Re: MarkV And QS Different

#102 posted by ericw on 2017/12/11 03:53:19

Damn... thanks for catching that Pritchard.

MarkV has a cheat protection thing that combines the .lit file and .bsp lightmap values.
I thought I was compensating for it in my light tool
Turns out I was doing this wrong. I fixed this in light.exe, it will make MarkV render the same as QS. Should have an update out soon.

#103 posted by ＰＲＩＴＣＨＡＲＤ on 2017/12/11 07:01:38

MarkV also displays Skyboxes quite differently. This is clearly the best thread to discuss it in, of course.

https://i.imgur.com/8z3VCbZ.png MarkV
https://i.imgur.com/Kh1Dieo.png Quakespasm

Holy Screens Batman!

#104 posted by Redfield on 2017/12/12 07:52:40

This map is looking mighty fine. Did you use sprites for all those trees? That's an insane amount of illusionaries. Or are they part of the skybox? I can't believe people are hitting bsp2 in 1024^3 (head explodes...)

#105 posted by ＰＲＩＴＣＨＡＲＤ on 2017/12/12 12:58:22

They're using fence textures and illusionaries. They're not perfect - the texture doesn't really have a trunk so I made a really ugly one from a brush, for instance.

There are a lot of them though, many many times more than in that screenshot. I'm pretty proud of it.

https://i.imgur.com/ts2d7uU.png

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