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Posted by Shambler on 2003/05/11 15:08:47 |
I thought a trio of themed threads about other entertainment media might be good. If you're not interested, please just ignore the thread and pick some threads that interest you from here: http://celephais.net/board/view_all_threads.php
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#1160 posted by Vigil on 2005/05/17 05:47:28
Bought Koyaanisqatsi today. Came in a nice double pack along with Powaqqatsi. Will be watching them <bal>soon</bal>.
I do have a feeling that I'll probably like them, since I'm such a sucker for cinematography, and music. All this "acting" is just an annoyance in some movies.
 I Have Seen Two Films Recently...
#1161 posted by Shambler on 2005/05/17 14:00:23
Robots - decent idea executed poorly, in a distinctive but subjective style. Okay so the plot is ultra-basic, it's laden with cliches, and were it anything other than an animation it would barely flesh out a 1/2 hour TV episode - but all of that is well compensated for by bags of style and plenty of sharp wit that appeals to adults whilst the cuteness appeals to children, right? Right? No, not really. Whilst other animations spice up the cartoon with adult wit, this throws in a load of mercilessly cheesy pop-media references that lack any sort of comedic bite or philosophical insight. The style of the film I sometimes found similarly weak, but in this area I do admit it's a matter of taste and the cutesy look is perhaps the point. Nevertheless I found the grimy undercity to show the appeal this film could have had. At any rate, the cheesyness and lack of depth is the main issue, and as such this film is strictly paddling in the shallow end.
Kingdom Of Heaven - I do like medieval stuff and thus had a positive expectation of an intriguing medieval spectacle. What I got instead was an incoherent mismash of toiletry adverts and pop-video snippets bound together by the insubstantial glue of a series of non-sequitors. Deep moral issues and crucial plot links were glossed over with minimal explanation and even less sense, whilst arbitrary posturing and random cheesey atmospherics were drawn out to irritating lengths. This was a film that was simultaneously too long and far too short. In fact, it was the way off the mark. Why the makers chose to make it into a series of adverts for Eau De Wandering Aimlessly Along The Sand and Random Mysterious Stare Conditioner For Faggots, instead of a gripping exploration of religion, politics and morality against a backdrop of brutal conflict in a new world, I don't know. Having said all that, some of the LOTR rip-off battlescenes were pretty good, and it got better enough towards the end to keep my arse in the seat.
 Star Wars Episode III
#1162 posted by pushplay on 2005/05/18 02:50:38
First post! Hah!
Wraps up the prequels in a satisfying way and has some of the most attractive renders known to man. And that's really all you need to know. You may not fall in love with it, but you won't leave angy.
 Star Wars Episode III
#1163 posted by czg on 2005/05/18 18:52:42
Second post! Hah!
Wraps up the prequels in a satisfying way and has some of the most attractive renders known to man. And that's really all you need to know. You may not fall in love with it, but you won't leave angy.
P.S. I fucking hate star wars and I can't wait until George Lucas dies from his bloated neck syndrome.
 Star Wars Episode III
#1164 posted by PuLSaR on 2005/05/21 06:37:32
A good film, rather tragical for its genre.
but I haven't watched episodes 4,5,6 from the beginning till the end. Only partialy..
 Czg
#1165 posted by pushplay on 2005/05/23 00:55:51
I don't get it, you want to explain that?
 I Don't Think He Likes Star Wars, Or Me For That Matter
#1166 posted by George Lucas on 2005/05/23 01:14:37
bloated neck syndrome
OMG, is it that obvious, I tried to hide it as long as I could, I am receiving treatment for the condition.
 And I Wouldn't Feel So Chipper If I Were You
#1167 posted by George Lucas on 2005/05/23 01:25:49
perhaps you are on his hit list as well
 More Stuff
#1168 posted by nitin on 2005/05/27 03:23:15
L'Avventura - I cant say I was too taken in by the movie but Antoinini definitely has a veryd istinctive style that keeps me watching. In this particular film, some of the shots are just very arresting, cant explain it because they arent fancy nor is much happening, but they create a very distinctive mood and feeling. The one thing this movie does do extremely well is make you feel as alienated as the characters in it.
The Asphalt Jungle - Solid all round noir film with well cast characters and a decent script.
Office Space - I went into this hearing a lot of good things and expecting something along the lines of The Office. Instead, I got an above average american comedy with some terrific scenes but mostly heavyhanded instances of the film thinking itself to be cooler and cleverer than it was.
 Revenge Of The Sith
#1169 posted by Kinn on 2005/05/27 04:18:20
Awesome, powerful, emotional film; in a completely different league to the other two prequels.
Pandered a little bit too much to kids in the beginning, but as soon as it kicked in properly, it was relentless and satisfyingly brutal in its execution.
 Kinn
#1170 posted by czg on 2005/05/27 05:10:01
It almost sucks as much as the LotR films!
You don't suck tho, unless you want to... ^_~
 Revenge Of The Sith
#1171 posted by Shambler on 2005/05/27 11:52:34
Pretty good, although the overall vibe of Star Wars does look quite ridiculous in this day and again. Also it was quite patchy, there were some tedious moments, a fair amount of kiddie moments (although the two slapstick bits were actually funny), combined with some spectacular bits and some gripping bits.
I do think the actual basic story is a very good (if totally blatant) one to be told in this sort of setting - true space opera with strong classical overtones. And this did show in the film, with some fairly powerful moments. As the over-effusive Kinn points out, more so towards the end. And the whole sci-fi-ness of it all is great, although I do find the technology to be nonsensical.
I think there is a lot of potential for a very powerful, very adult sci-fi film with this sort of story, something that explores BIG issues in a spectacular setting with mind-boggling but comprehensible technology. THIS isn't quite it as it is still quite a kiddie film, but it did have some inspiring parallels.
Worth going to see, I thought. But neither spectacularly good (although it was goodly spectacular) not remotely awful.
 Again = Age
#1172 posted by Shambler on 2005/05/27 11:53:59
Also, I'd like to know whether these two are worth watching:
Sin City - sounds kinda entertaining. Max Payne2 got me into the film noir style.
The Jacket - sounds really cool, and indeed quite a lot like Jacob's Ladder which was great.
Views?
 Re: Shambler
#1173 posted by R.P.G. on 2005/05/27 12:39:14
Sin City: See above. There were quite a few comments posted when it came out in the US. Generally recommended, although it didn't seem to me to be as deep as some people thought it was.
The Jacket: I dunno, but it's on my rental list.
 Sin City
#1174 posted by starbuck on 2005/05/27 14:55:13
I'll get to the point and say I though this was absolutely fantastic. Everything you'll read in a positive review is true, and the only negative points i've read is that some people think there's too much violence, and that it's degrading to women. How awesome is that?
It's important that you watch it not expecting anything deep or complex of course. This is a classic action film, like Die Hard or True Lies, with characters 100 times more badass than Max Payne, no bullet-time bullshit, and no pussification of the dialogue or content as you'd expect to see in a comic-adaptation. All you get is strippers being punched in the face, priests being shot in the head; henchmen being taken down by hatchets. And thats by the GOOD guys.
Thats just one thing that makes this movie so good. The good guys are tough assholes, but the bad guys are really bad, really evil. Something so satisfying about seeing Bruce Willis's Detective Hartigan punch a pedo's head into the ground, or Mickey Rourke's Marv beat the shit out of a cannibal weirdo.
I'm just so happy to see a film this much fun, and this un-PC get realeased to such a wide audience. It's worth the price of admission to just see the 'Marv' section. It's worth the price of admission just to see him call all the women he meets 'broads', or for the line:
"That's my Parole officer. She's a dyke, but god knows why. With that body she could have any man she wanted."
So, yeah definitely go see this movie. I watched a copy of it with a room of people, and most of the guys broke into cheers every 5 minutes (most of the girls didn't really get it :)). Ive never seen a movie do that to people before. Maybe Indiana Jones would do that, in its own much less violent way.
OK now I may have over-hyped it, but I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
 Shambler
#1175 posted by nitin on 2005/05/27 19:07:53
see the trailer for sin city, the style's not for everyone but I have been waiting very eagerly for australian cinemas to actually fucking release the thing here.
 Sin City
#1176 posted by Vigil on 2005/05/30 00:16:25
The movie's so good that I'd pass a chance to see pictures of Shambler's naked mother just to see Sin City again.
 Nitin...
#1177 posted by distrans on 2005/05/31 19:06:47
...seconded
 Just Saw
#1178 posted by pope on 2005/06/04 02:57:36
'A Tale of Two Sisters'
a korean horror flick from 2003, just released on NTSC DVD for those interested in buying/watching it.
I saw it, I manifested my own interpretation of how the story unfolded. Then after a bit of reading up on it I found my idea of how it played out doesn't match in a lot of places. Although these were all other personal explanations from other viewers, so nobody is technically 'correct', and it would seem this was intended after glancing quickly at some of the extra dvd content titles which include a 'psychiatrists commentary'. I didn't get to view that stuff so I guess I'll be left in the dark for a while.
overall it was great bit of horror/psychology.
 Pope
#1179 posted by bal on 2005/06/04 03:15:07
Yeah, I watched that with my girlfriend, and neither of us understood it the same way, definatly some strange story telling... But yeah, a nice film.
 I'd
#1180 posted by pope on 2005/06/04 18:24:23
question you on your take of the plot, but here is probably not the best place in the rare case someone else here wants to indulge in this piece of horror.
 Some Stuff I Saw Recently
#1181 posted by nitin on 2005/06/04 20:57:10
The Devil's Backbone - I liked Del Toro's work in Blade II and bits of Hellboy so I thought I'd check out what's considered his best and personal favorite film.
Nice story but this is not a horror/thriller as it is marketed. The acting/directing and cinematography is first rate. The problem lies with the melding of the supernatural story to the more normal civil war story. It just doesnt click together as well as it should. Still, it's well worth checking out.
Thieves Highway - Quite classy film noir from Jules Dassin. The acting and story are first rate but it falters quite badly towards the end.
Nine Queens - Recently remade by Hollywood as 'Criminal', this recent Argentinian con film is quite enjoyable. The decent performances cover up some glaring holes in the plot which is also a bit too contrived to achieve its twist ending. It doesnt help that its made really obvious that there's a bigger con game at work than what's shown onscreen.
The Emperor and the Assassin - Another take on the tale told more recently in Hero, one thats meant to be more faithful. It features some excellent cinematography and impressive 'real' battle scenes along with some good acting at times. Unfortunately, the script is a terrible mess trying to cover way too much and rushing many key scenes. The all over the place approach is not aided by some clunky directing either. Still, it's very watchable despite all this due to the sheer presence of Gong Li and the actor that played the Emperor.
Belle de Jour - Interesting is probably the best way to describe this film. Too enigmatic in some parts, too obvious in others but it still has something that just draws you in. Will probably have to rewatch but even after first viewing, it's recommended.
Out of the Past - Double Indemnity and Maltese Falcon aside, this is the definitive film noir. Terrific dialogue and some very cool performances from Robert Mitchum, Kirk Douglas and Jane Greer. The cinematography is also extremely well done.
 I'm A John Houston Fan
#1182 posted by HeadThump on 2005/06/04 22:59:41
But I've never thought the Maltese Falcon was really that good. Petrified Forest, now that is more like it in the classic Noir tradition.
 The Triplets Of Bellevue...
#1183 posted by distrans on 2005/06/06 06:51:27
...understated, inventive magic.
 Agreed Distrans
#1184 posted by nitin on 2005/06/06 06:58:40
that was great stuff!
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