What do you think about matrix reloaded ?

PS : bal never u check your email ??? 

What do you think about matrix reloaded ?

Entertaining. Intelligent, or at least intellectual. More like live-action anime than a hollywood action movie. Lots of potential made by expansion of the diagesis. The emotional core of the story was filled in the previous movie though, so Reloaded is not as inspiring or memorable or repeat-viewable. Twins are cool. 

I think I'm in love with the first horde-of-Agent Smiths battle. 

Note, I'm not a huge fan of the first movie, but I'll admit that it was cool if nothing else. I guess I just dont like the pretentiousness of it all.

About Reloaded, I dislike it even more simply because of the increased level of pretentiousness (especially the last 10 mins or so). It's deliberately complicated to confuse rather than being "complex" as it is trying to be. Apart from that, the basic plotline is dispersed with kung fu fight scenes every 10 mins or so which feel forced rather than being exciting. The acting is of a lower level than in the first one, except Keanu who probably improves (must have been a real challenge for him) and the dialogue in general is heading towards George Lucas territory.

Also, this movie like LOTR:TTT seems to follow a more traditional hollwood structure unlike both the prequels which were different. IMHO, those approaches made them far more entertaining and memorable than the sequels.

Having said that, the 100 agent vs Neo fight was cool, even though you could spot when they were using CG neo (why would you slow mo a totally CGI fight, it make it more obvious). And I'm getting the DVD simply for the chase sequence, that's hands down the best I've seen. 

I think the 100 smith agent vs neo fight is until and too unreal . For the end of the film I wait for Matrix revolution ...
And i think the first Matrix was the Film of the 20th century . Twins are cool and the Merovingian is an important personnage of the film. I love the music !!! In the end of the first matrix they have choose Ratm - wake-up in the end of the second they have chose Ratm (again) - calm like a bomb . Good music :)

PS : R.P.G young people can have more culture than you ! 

I am 19 years old. It was a joke. 

I just read the post quickly ;)
We have the same age ! (1984 best year) 

I agree and disagree with Nitin at the same time :)

It could never be as revolutionary as the 1st film but still it expands the whole story or depth of the matrix universe very nicely, especially how you learn more about how the matrix really works, with all the programs and hacks etc etc, and the architect bit and the end was cool too (btw, did anyone notice that all the monitors on the walls looked exactly like the monitors that the camera dives into before going into the scene where neo gets pinned on the table in the 1st movie?)

The car chase is by far the best car chase I have ever seen ;) Totally wicked, but unfortunately most of the other fight scenes seem forced as Nitin said. The most obvious of which was when neo had a mini-fight with the protector of the oracle. Pointless. And again neo fights buttloads of agent smiths, why not just fly away? :)

Cant wait to see what happens in revelations. Should be very interresting... 

otherwise they couldnt insert the second coolest scene in the movie and wouldnt have anything to fill their trailers with :) 

Here, I sent u an email, but apparently u havent answered... or im not getting ur mails...

uhm, Im easily entertained when kungfu and big explosions are concerned, so I thought reloaded was pretty bad ass, and I thought there were some interesting ideas in the story (but yeah, its made out to be more complicated then it actually is... I think). 

While it can be argued that the second Matrix film plays Doom II to The Matrix's Doom, it still manages to set the scenario for the third movie: That humanity (and, if you buy the "humans as batteries" sctick, the AI) are at a critical point where the survival of one race, or the other, or both, is in the balance.

Other, smarter people than me, have argued that the AI couldn't get enough energy to survive from us meaties, and that they need us for something else, like mental abilities that they cannot simulate.

Now, allow my inebriated self to ass-ume the role of The Great Criswell and say:

I predict: that Neo will somehow bring about the fusion of both the human and the AI races into a future of mushy peace and harmony!

I predict: that Neo will somehow bring about the destruction of the AI's control of the Matrix and return control of the destiny of the human race to the human race!

I predict: that one or the other, or both, of these predictions will come true, for mine is the logical or!

/me takes off the Criswell role and sends it to the dry cleaners 

I send you an e-mail since one day ;) your e-mail is off !!! 

**BIG SPOILER**

























Is that the real world is in fact another layer of the matrix. 

that's too easy to go with the pretentious nature of the films. They'll probably go with the more nonsensical idea that due to Agent Smith and Neo's interaction in the first film, Neo's developed some of his machine like abilities (including control) in the real world and Smith's developed some of his human like abilities. How they explain that, I can only guess but that'll probably be done in Revolutions. It also makes the dialogue between Smith and Neo before the horde fight make more sense.

Also, I'm sure they'll pull a 'twist' out invovling the real mother of the matrix since the Architect never admitted that the Oracle was in fact the mother of the matrix. 

In the real world, Neo and company will find out that the core systems of the Matrix are being run on an old Windows PC, hence the need to "reset" everything at frequent intervals. 

there've been no BSODs yet... 

nice stuff! johnny depp is in nice form and the CG is nicely done. Verbinski's visual style continues in the same moody style as 'The Ring'. Well worth watching, it's a tad too long though. 

saw this last night. It has to be one of the greatest scripts ever written. Very classy stuff. 

Fuck the matrix.

I mean really.
Fuck it. It's crap. it really is.

It has good action scenes, in fact incredible action scenes, and besides that Laurence Fishburne is usually a good actor. But I mean really, what is it? It's a combined rip-off of Terminator and Dark City, with 1.1735% pretentiousness thrown in for good measure and 1.732% shittiness as an overall factor. My biased, arrogant opinion is that if you find the Matrix series thought-provoking, you're probably mentally retarded.

Good action? fine. But revolutionary and thought-provoking? My god, what has the human race come to... 

"Fuck the matrix.

I mean really.
Fuck it. It's crap. it really is."

Tronyn for President !!!!!!
You got my vote.
I seen the first one ( never paid to see it, seen it on TV, still felt ripped off ) When the second one comes on, I'll change channel and watch the test pattern instead. I really don't see what all the fuss is about. But thats the beauty of freedom of choice and individuality, each to his own, and his own to each. 

you forgot to mention that it was shot well, well the first one anyway. But I'm with you anyway.

Also, saw Vertigo last night. Pretty good, just not what I was expecting. Fantastic visuals, especially for the time but it's a bit long and windy for what it is. 

You went to an action flick looking for a meaningful philosophy lesson, and you're calling other people retarded? 

I think that's the problem, if it was a straighforward action flick, that'd be fine. But it's very pretentious, and IMHO that takes away from it. 

If you want a good action movie, fine. both matrix films are fairly entertaining. but the pretentiousness, and how stupid people go on and on about how clever and philosophical it is, is really what ruins it. I'm not saying it has no virtues, including being shot well and of course its action scenes, even some interesting ideas, but as an entire package you've got to include pretentiousness in there, and that just stinks. and WTF was that about vampires and ghosts being explained as exiled computer programs? THIS MAKES NO SENSE. that was just another example of them trying to be clever, and market the film as if it is thought provoking.

I didn't go to an action film looking for a philosophy lesson, but that is how the matrix presents itself. 

The Matrix relates to a few thoughts that are very universal and hadn't been wrapped up in one package before, and it was well done. However, the idea of a sequel delving deeper into the details of their specific embodiment of these messages almost seems to undo the universal message and has yet to tempt me.