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Posted by Shambler on 2003/05/11 15:08:47 |
I thought a trio of themed threads about other entertainment media might be good. If you're not interested, please just ignore the thread and pick some threads that interest you from here: http://celephais.net/board/view_all_threads.php
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 300
#1810 posted by pjw on 2007/03/11 09:21:00
Saw this on Friday on the big IMAX screen with the rest of the work crew, and, damn. One of the most enjoyable movies I've seen in quite a while.
The movie is based on Frank Miller's graphic novel "300", which is itself a retelling of Herodotus' tale of a vastly outnumbered force of Spartans attempting to hold the narrow pass at Thermopylae against the invading Persian army. The movie perhaps overdoes the exotic elements and effects a tad at times (e.g. the Persian bordello of yuck), but in my opinion, the sheer gusto of the whole thing makes up for it.
Great fight scenes. I've also seen very few movies that combine beautiful cinematograpy with huge helpings of grittiness (i.e. blood, sweat, grime) to such a striking effect.
At this particular showing, the audience spontaneously erupted into cheers at least a couple of times--the filmmakers certainly did something right.
 Nitin
#1811 posted by . on 2007/03/11 17:13:27
Interesting, may need your help.
 Phait
#1812 posted by nitin on 2007/03/12 00:40:14
in what way ?
#1813 posted by nitin on 2007/03/12 01:59:43
Excalibur (1981) - John Boorman's version of the Arthurian legend is halfway terrible but strangely compelling. There's some shoddy production values that look frequently cheesy, the dialogue is cringeworthy at times and the performances are uniformly overly theatrical, everyone yelling most of their lines rather than acting.
However, it is also exceptionally well shot and scored, impeccably paced, and somehow manages to evoke the otherworldy feel of paganism and the dark ages. The direction really is outstanding (apart from the choice of acting style) and goes some way to making up for most of the weaknesses to some extent.
Definitely a more worthwhile watch than the recent attempt, King Arthur.
6/10
 300
#1814 posted by inertia on 2007/03/12 04:33:26
Saw this today (not on an IMAX screen, though!). Great gritty feel, each scene had a clear purpose, and generally just felt epic.
 300
#1815 posted by R.P.G. on 2007/03/12 04:42:57
(Minor spoiler alert.) Was I the only one who felt the ending was anticlimactic, though? I mean obviously the Spartans die etc etc, but they just kinda sat there.
Otherwise I liked it. Too bad I didn't see it in Imax.
 RPG
#1816 posted by inertia on 2007/03/12 05:51:03
it's about their honorable lives, moreso than their honorable deaths...
 Nitin
#1817 posted by . on 2007/03/12 06:47:40
Was thinking of using some Hindi in some music titles, etc.
 Phait
#1818 posted by nitin on 2007/03/12 09:05:11
I see, well give me a yell when you need in GA.
#1819 posted by nitin on 2007/03/13 09:19:03
Throne of Blood (1957) - Akira Kurosawa's reasonably faithful adaptation of Macbeth is considered by many to be one of the best Shakespearean adaptations and also the best film version of Macbeth. That might be true as it is very well made and the deviations and exclusions from the play actually give it a somewhat better plot, but what will make or break this for you is Kurosawa's decision to film it with influences of Noh drama, basically meaning that the main actors perform in a very heightened style of overly theatrical acting and holding their expressions for long(er) periods of time.
It has been employed in some of his other period movies that I have liked, but usually in those there's more flamboyant direction or an ensemble cast acting normally, to offset the experience. In this particular movie, I just couldn�t get past it and it detracted from the quality of the rest of the movie.
Still worth a watch, but I was a little disappointed personally.
6/10
Six Feet Under Season 5 - The last season still carries over some of the soapie elements that crept in during seasons 3 and 4, but it also contains some of the best episodes and scenes in the entire series. When this show gets things right, it really works, and the last 15 min of the final episode is really great television that stays with you. I was up for two hours after seeing it last night.
Special mention to the acting by Peter Krause and James Cromwell throughout the season, it was first rate stuff from them.
7/10
 Alpha Dog
#1820 posted by megaman on 2007/03/16 22:04:13
Don't. Just don't. Total boredom and no room for the actors at all.
 HOT FUZZ
#1821 posted by DaZ on 2007/03/17 02:56:13
Saw this the other day, LOL!
Ok so its the same director and actors from Shaun of the dead, and the same style of humour also, so I geuss the easiest thing to say is if you liked Shaun, you will like this :)
I personally laughed out loud a lot more than the others cos I worked for the supermarket depicted in the film for a while and they rip the total piss out of it, some great moments there, and generally a ver enjoyable film as long as you dont take it to seriously...
#1822 posted by nitin on 2007/03/17 13:51:15
The Sopranos Season Six Part 1 - the first six episodes are as good as the show has ever been since season 3, but then there's a huge downturn in quality as some of the poorest writing to date takes over, especially in relation to two major subplots (vito and AJ).
There's only so much the performers can do when the scripts are poor and the last six episodes make sure this is the worst season so far by a long way.
6.5/10
Red Beard (1965) - Akira Kurosawa's overlong but brilliantly made period film about a medical intern taking up apprenticeship in a public clinic in 19th century Japan against his wishes further demonstrates that his non-samurai films were just as great as his samurai ones.
The main plot can be seen as melodramatic soap opera stuff but the script and direction never let it come across that way. Apart from one badly misjudged sequence, there's a perfectionism present here in almost all aspects.
Toshiro Mifune is great in a restrained performance and his final collabration with the great Japanese director is excellent stuff.
8/10
 And More
#1823 posted by nitin on 2007/03/19 09:45:55
8 1/2 (1965) - I didn�t really get it. Federico Fellini's universally lauded movie is probably the most abstract and distant thing I have ever seen. I get the crux of it, the difficulty of the creative process, but don�t know how or what all that is depicted is meant to be. It is a film about a director struggling to make a film, in much the same way Adaptation was scripted to be about a writer struggling to write a script. It can therefore be seen as an exercise in self reflexivity and/or a film about the process and difficulties of filmmaking and/or the alienation and frustration experienced by someone who doesn�t know what to do and who is constantly being pressurised both personlly and professionally.
There's some very fluid camerawork and it moves seamlessly from reality to fantasy to memories but I just found that I couldn�t connect with it on any of the three levels mentioned above. It almost felt like you had to know Fellini, the person, to really get into it. Either way, it was an admirable effort but not something for me.
6/10
Sarkar (2005) - Ram Gopal Varma's loose adaptation of The Godfather set in the Mumbai underworld is a disappointing effort from someone who usually excels in that genre. Varma decides to give Coppola and Puzo's film an MTV makeover, relentlessly editing and moving the story forward, so much so that all character development is lost and buried, something that was a key to The Godfather's greatness. It also has one of the most overly bombastic and annoying background scores in recent memory. Some of the performances are good, but their impact is lost as none of the characters are given any time to breathe.
6/10
Clerks 2 - Kevin Smith's followup to Clerks is a decent movie till about 3/4 of the way through. Till that point, it's a low key, reasonably funny movie with some great monologues that are trademark Smith (my 2 favorites being the rant about how star wars is better than the LOTR trilogy and how porch monkey is an inappropriate racist term that should be reclaimed for general use). Then, it descends into 20 of the stupidest minutes in recent cinema, crashing from one bad scene to the next. It goes for funny and sentimental, and ends up being just tragic, ruining an otherwise decent effort.
5.5/10
 I Felt The Same Dissapointment
#1824 posted by HeadThump on 2007/03/19 21:11:16
with 8 1/2. Everything else he has done
that I have seen is much better in what makes a good film imho, evocation of mood, story, characterization, umph, gusto, pretty actresses and the like. Why this one is considered his best in the general assessment of critics alludes my understanding. Frankly, I thought it was a waste of time to watch.
 Yeah....
#1825 posted by metlslime on 2007/03/19 21:32:57
8 1/2 was well-filmed and interesting and artsy and stuff, but it never really engaged me.
 Cool
#1826 posted by nitin on 2007/03/20 09:30:33
so it wasnt just me then :)
Have to say I felt the same abou La Dolce Vita.
 Watched The New Korean Horror/thriller Last Night
#1827 posted by nitin on 2007/03/21 13:01:29
The Host - Joon Ho Bong's followup to Memories of Murder isnt as great a film, but its quite a good effort for a monster movie.
I think it works as well as it does because its quite funny, black humour popping up in many unexpected scenes. Secondly, the creature isnt the sole focus which makes all the scenes not involving it work as well.
It takes on a bit too much (juggling satire, horror, thriller and family drama) which causes it to lose focus occasionally and become uneven in its pacing, but at the same time its that very characteristic that makes it so refreshing and unpredictable.
The CGI is convincing, although a bit shoddy in places, but Bong's audacity to shoot most the creature scenes in broad daylight in long uninterrupted takes (normally a no-no for movies like this) pays off quite well.
7/10
 Shadow Of The Colossus Featured In A Movie?
#1828 posted by metlslime on 2007/03/24 10:59:29
This was an interesting article despite being on Kotaku:
http://kotaku.com/gaming/top/feature-the-colossus-and-the-comedian-246286.php
The short version is SOTC is featured in the upcoming movie Reign Over Me, and they did it as artistic choice rather than as product placement (I actually believe it since that's the wrong game for them to choose if it was really a marketing decision.)
Still, it would be interesting to see how they use it and whether it actually enhances the movie or not.
 Metl
#1829 posted by nitin on 2007/03/24 14:24:32
havent seen it, but adam sandler plays a character suppressing his past (wife and daughter killed in 9/11) by isolating himself and playing lots of video games etc
#1830 posted by nitin on 2007/03/26 11:29:27
The Lady Eve (1941) - I find this to be the best of Preston Sturges' films, although it is still nothing more than above average in my eyes.
Thankfully, the slapstick is gone, and this time the reliance is on the dialogue for the comedy. Henry Fonda and Barbara Stanwyck are both terrific and the script is good, but there was still a lot more room for wittier dialogue I think.
6.5/10
Pat Garett and Billy the Kid (1973) - Sam Peckinpah's version of the famous western legend is an odd movie, with brilliant individual scenes, but never quite coming together as a whole. Part of it is probably down to studio interference as he was never allowed to release his intended version. The dvd comes with 2 cuts, one labelled a director's cut, albeit still incomplete, and the other a 2005 restoration which is a combination of the theatrical and director's cuts.
The director's cut is definitely the better movie, if only because it uses the instrumental rather the vocal versions of Boby Dylan's music which is very overused and distracting in the 2005 version. It also has a better epilogue and prologue section which is still good but not as effective in the 2005 version. However, the newer version does include some great new scenes that really should have been part of the original version.
Either way, it's still a worthwhile watch but comes across as a mishmash rather than a coherent vision. James Coburn is great as Pat Garrett, the outlaw turned sheriff who is given the task to track down his old friend, but Kris Kristofferson is only ok as Billy the Kid, the outlaw who doesn�t want to adapt with the times. Some of the dialogue is brilliant and certain scenes show a lot of skill from Peckinpah, but this never quite reaches The Wild Bunch standards.
7/10 for director's cut
6.5/10 for the 2005 version
#1831 posted by nitin on 2007/03/28 13:19:24
Wedding Crashers - probably one of the worst movies I have seen in the last 5 years.
Insipid and unfunny.
2.5/10
 Equilibrium
#1832 posted by Spirit on 2007/03/31 14:26:20
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Nice to flee from boredom but probably nothing I will watch again.
 Equilibrium
#1833 posted by inertia on 2007/04/01 08:11:40
highest on-screen body count! a fun movie i think if a bit narrowfocused
#1834 posted by nitin on 2007/04/02 11:11:43
Babel - Its definitely the weakest of Alejandro Gonzales innaritu's 3 movies, but that's only in the context of his 2 great earlier films. I also think this was wrongly marketed, its not really a butterfly effect movie but more about what its title implies, the ability (and inability) of people to communicate with each other. And I think it explores that theme fairly well on quite a few different levels.
There are two problems, the first being the length. Innaritu is at his most self indlugent in this movie and while he gets away with it because the overall result is of high quality, the movie still has scenes that go on for far too long without any great purpose.
The second problem is the occasional scripting pitfall into contrivedness. It is one thing for characters to act irrationally under duress, it is something else to have them do dumb stuff solely so the plot can move towards a certain direction.
Apart from those though, I found it to be very well made, acted and written. It is possibly less accessible than his other two movies as the individual stories are probably not as engaging, but I think the overall result is still of a very similar quality. And the tracking shot to finish it off is also highly impressive.
7.5/10
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