These textures really don't look good at all but that's not really the point here. The point is People have had to use the original textures to build their maps. Replacing them with any other textures simply betrays the whole point of the jam in the first place, especially when the replacements are of vastly inferior quality. You don't get the intended experience and you, probably unconsciously, think that the hard work of the original artist and the mappers isn't good enough for you. 

You don't get the intended experience and you, probably unconsciously, think that the hard work of the original artist and the mappers isn't good enough for you.

I agree but there's nothing you can do about it so why bitch? You can't even effectively discourage people from using them. HD textures suck - they look like shit IMO but coming from a business that's entirely subjective (entertainment) I get that someone else may think our 21 year-old game looks like shit and needs to be updated. Again, I disagree but I am willing to bet the number of people that use this texture set is tiny. So big fucking deal. If one more person plays my map because of these textures I am fine with it. I mean fuck I hate that anyone would play my map in Darkplaces but many people will and have. Nothing I can do about it. 

While I know that this board isn't really the audience for this, the "packaged" version is finally done.

https://tomeofpreach.wordpress.com/quoth/map-packs/

One more useful bit of news for the thread is that it contains a revised version of ShoTro's map, which I expect he'll share with the thread separately so you don't have to redownload the whole pack to get it. The first rune in particular is a lot better balanced for an "intro mission", and there are lots of nice tweaks. As a side effect, while testing it I did a 100% playthrough, so now I've found all the secrets in the pack! 

Great news. I will add it to my links advertised in the trailer. 

Hi,

Just tested the map pack ! Pretty amazing pack from what I saw. Tested both the package version and the "normal" version. The Quoth packague version (jam9.pak) seems to have at least shotro map not updated ;) Sorry if this was the wrong place to post, just figured I'd warn about this. 

Nevermind, my bad, it's actually the opposite :S 

Does -quoth let me piggy back another mod folder off of the "quoth" folder?

I tried to follow the readme to a T since so many people had install problems, so in my clean directory for playing/testing (just an ID1 and engine), I put a jam9 folder with all the jam9 zip contents in it and ran -quoth -game jam9 but had lots of obviously missing stuff. Looked at the jam9 folder and lo and behold there isn't much in there, certainly not the Quoth 2.2.full.patch files.

I'd have to rename pak files to copy and paste jam9 into the quoth folder to get it to work which is fine, but that's not what the readme says.

So what magic is going on when I use the -quoth command? 

Yes - it's the same as the -hipnotic and -rogue commands. Quoth itself used to be ran under "-hipnotic -game quoth".

This was used so the replacement content from Contract and some extras (the conback, and the blank sample for the water splashing sound) would work seamlessly. ne_tower is another example of this.

Obviously this will not magically combine two different progs. 

That's cool. Now I can finally play this when I have time. Why didn't the readme say so? That's probably why myself and others keep having issues with jams that use quoth. I always thought the mod directories were mutually exclusive and that if I ran -quoth -game jam9 it didn't matter if I had a quoth directory alongside it.

Hmmm...I've more questions but I'll go ask them in an engine thread.

Yay, this is going to be fun. I love knave. 

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