I had no problem learning it but on the other hand I was surrounded by people knowing it when doing it, I don't think you'll have much luck figuring it out without looking at a list of shorcuts since they're essential. Unfortunatly there's not much documentation coming with it but you should be able to get all your questions answered at the ogier forum: http://forum.starbreeze.com

Mapping for enclave is pretty much like making maps for a q3 engine game, the tech behind is very similar.

I think it only imports q1 .map files and if you'r going to make enclave maps I think it's better to spend some time learning ogier, in any case you won't have access to the textures in gtkrad.

I've tried making some simple quake maps in it and it works pretty well. 

I slightly updated my site while intoxicated tonight. Threw a link to xl1dm7 up there. I'd appreciate it if anyone does a full scale review as it hasn't recieved one yet. Thanks much 

there aren't any dm review sites anymore you reject. 

your a twit. 

do you mean "you're" 

Did you mean to put a question mark on that? Or begin with sentence with a capital letter? 

thanks for correcting my error. As I said before, you are a twit. 

What's up with the shitty control? It feels like a BUILD engine game, way too fluid... 3rd person view walking with a hip sway and anorexic? Having to hit space bar to choose a weapon and not #1 to 9/0 ?

Please tell me there's a patch/mod to fix that shitty control X( I think I'm returning this one. 

fter a case of Yuengling, the better [art of a fifth of Southern Comfort and obnoxiously coming on to my best friend's sister in law whom bears a strikong reseeblence to Charlize Theron, I am the twit! 

to check to see if my perceptions may be effected a tad bit by my consumption. They are sleeping quite peacefully on the couch. Still looks cute though (I'm still buzzing s bit) but except for the blond hair, she looks nothing like Charlize Theron. More of a Sarah Jessica Parker type. Yeah, I'm sticking with that. 

Charlize Therone or Sarah Jessica Parker?

Please post pic's in the "pic's and beta" thread so we may judge for ourselves. 

Does drunk Thumpy play such cruel tricks on sober Thumpy? Drunk Thumpy is not going to be allowed to come out to play for a very long time. No he isn't. I had completely forgotten about those post until I just checked for updates.

BTW, I never liked Sex in the City -- but at the same time, I've always thought SJP was absolutely gorgeous. Loved her in Mars Attacks! and that in itself may be a little disturbing, given the nature of her character there. 

You're not the first person to hit on someone he shouldn't while drunk. I wouldn't dwell on it too much. 

I never liked sax in Quake --but at the same time, I've always thought MerceBabe was absolutely gorgeous. Loved her in Malice and that may be a little headthumping, given the nature of her monsterability there 

lol 

And the best WinAmp skin is?... 

 

Anything by monaux; http://www.monaux.com/

(Spore owns meh) 

The problem with a lot of skins is that they waste space or are unreadable. The default skin is a tribute to good UI design. Too bad you can't get new colours for it. 

winamp 5.0 = default skin with many color selections available + ability to make skin transparent over desktop = winwinwin 

I find it garish

This is my fav: http://www.winamp.com/skins/details.php?id=68338 

You apparently aren't cool enough to still be using WinAmp 2.27. 

I use 5 for a couple of reasons;

1) It's not as pathetically lame as WinAmp 3 was
2) I find the libary thingy useful for sorting out tracks before I import them into iTunes. 

Or and you can also use WinAmp3 skins which means you can use this; http://www.winamp.com/skins/details.php?id=122902

(The one nice thing to come from version 3) 

My MSN client informs me you have sent a message but it wont let me open it nor send anything out. MSN must be doing one of its periodic crack ups. I'll check in the morning, and I hope to send the map then as well. Still tweaking it a bit.