but old qmap had site/map tracker
and icon abuse too 

more meaningful. I wouldd raise a mug for Metl any day or time of the week. 

Here at our house when Telstra put the line in they apparently set it up on a pairgain or something like that, which means no broadband to this residence.

Apparently it was being fixed soon/has been fixed recently though so a decent connection soon. Huzzah! 

One person who is trying to play my Apinaraivo / Monkey Rage (download at http://www.quaddicted.com/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,49/) has a problem. He has extracted the archive file into the Quake dir, loads quake with the correct -game settings, but upon typing "map araivo" he receives an error that looks like:

ifNOT 5650[?]
spawnpointerror

He has tried both GLQuake and FitzQuake and the error happens with both. I cannot reproduce this problem and I can't recall of anyone having any similar problems with my map. What could be the reason for this? 

he's using the -listen option, i.e. he's trying to run in DM mode instead of SP. Since you don't have any DM spawn points on this map, the engine will via QC get stuck in a loop looking for a spawn point until a counter is exceeded.

This behaviour is a bit weird in the standard QC. 

So I at least got in the top 10 for Planetquake's wallpaper contest. I wasn't expect to be in the top 3 anyway, and even if I got 2nd or 3rd - I really have no interest in a Quake 4 t-shirt or 3 free months of GameSpy Clubbadubdub 

I hope your virtual masturbation does not gum up the works and make func slower than it already is. 

Func_ owns, its just slow at 3am EST :) 

I hope your virtual masturbation does not gum up the works and make func slower than it already is.

I want inertia to be the MC at my Roast. 

So let me get this straight... the US people are whining about gasoline prices rising (they are 2.60$ a gallon over there apparently, which makes it 0.68$ per litre) while here in Finland gasoline costs over 1.2 euro per litre (which adds up to over 5$ for a gallon)? What is wrong with this picture? 

$3.00 here per gallon. And yes we're whining because our whole urban model is based around personal cars instead of social transports - we have buses, but nobody uses them. Most people drive their own cars to their neighbor's houses instead of walking ,etc etc, and we end up paying like 5 billion a week for gas. Plus Bush sucks. 

Why not walk or use a bus? 

density in the states means that it is necessary to drive further to accomplish equivalant task in Europe. A German friend of mine once pointed out to me that you could move the entire population of Germany in to the state of Texas with its current population in tact and not equal the population density current in Germany. So, cheap gas versus expensive gas effects the bottom line to a greater extent than in Europe.

As far as mass transit, it is terribly ineffecient for the end user. In the states, sans some latte towns that ban automobiles, you can get from your front door to the parking lot of any other inhabited place on the continent without a great excercion of energy. Try stocking up for a week at the grocery store and hauling it on a bus and then hauling it to your front door, and you'll see what I mean. 

So why is it by design? What possible sense does it make to build your cities in a way that FORCES people to own a car? 

Of non-Americans saying "stop whining" -- isn't it fucking obvious that our countries have different standards and rates of living? It's like comparing apples to oranges. 

means living by my own schedule and not an arbitrary one designated by a bureaucrat in charge of bus schedules. I've seen what the increased bureacratization of society has done to our airports, and it is not a direction or way of life I am interested in pursuing any further than it already become. 

"means living by my own schedule and not an arbitrary one designated by a bureaucrat in charge of bus schedules."

I can accept a counter-argument, but not this one. I have buses going into every direction every 15 to 20 minutes tops, from 5.30 am to 0.30 am (about 1 bus per hour during the night). What would be the problem if a similar system was applied to the US? 

Public transports are much cheaper than cars though HeadThump, and in large cities (I'm sure this applies to the US too) when they are organised right, they are rarely a problem and you don't feel so limited by them, I know that's my case in Paris, I wouldn't know what to do with a car really (Other than selling it =).
But yeah, once you get far from larger cities, public transports just don't work unfortunatly. 

from 5.30 am to 0.30 am That still leaves 0.31 to 5.29 am where I would be stuck at home and not be able to go where I want. Those are prime munchie hours! Also, when I want to go to the beach which is three to five hours away, all I have to do is put a few bags in the back seat, fill up the tank and go. I don't have to worry about the transit services of several cities and towns in between.

Good points there, Bal. Even the city twelve miles to the north of me has a public bus system, but I would never use it. I live in a rural/suburban area with several acres to myself. I crank up metal music all hours of the
night without disturbing (most of) my neighbors and have friends over on the patio without cops getting nosy about my business.

It is just an entirely different life style than an urban environement. 

if Paris is anything like the movie Amelie, I could probably adjust;) 

Also, Europe has postage-stamp sized cars that get 4560 miles to the gallon (or 69987 kilometers to the liter, if you prefer). Mostly those aren't available here, and I don't have $100 grand to spend on a new hybrid.

Today I needed my car today to drive 5 miles on the interstate to get to a PC store so I could buy a new printer. Please note this is well outside the urban area served by the transit authority in this city.

Gas prices have historically been low in the US. Imagine something you take for granted that is low or no cost to you, and then suddenly the price jumps by %30 in just a few years. You wouldn't be happy either.

Take this example of a public transportation. Chapel Hill used to charge for their bus service, but nobody used it. Then they lowered the cost until finally they weren't charging anything to ride the bus--it's now completely free. Still the buses were relatively empty. Now they are paying to run advertisements on local radio to get people to use the system. I don't know if the usage has improved much, but I do know they're still running the advertisements. Most of the people who work in Chapel Hill don't live there because they can't afford to. You can have twice the property for half the cost if you live 8 miles outside of town and drive to work. 

Why not walk or use a bus?
Because I, like many many others, live the in the suburbs of a metropolitan area, some 60+ miles from where I work. In DC (Washington, the US Captial, for the uninformed), majority of the metro workforce are commuters from the 'burbs. Try walking 60 miles in my shoes, kiddo.

Although for the record, there are some buses that go into the metro area from the suburbs but they're only once a day. There are also many contractors like myself that don't have a 'home office' with a cube and stupid dilbert printouts on their cubicle, but rather go to different work sites depending on the day of the week or schedule of a project.

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Anyways, are gas prices in Europe semi-stable? I bet they don't go up 35cents in a day like they did today in my area. 

and what RPG said 

If there was any way that I could run my
business(s) via public transport, I would. I think though, that they'd frown upon me trying to move 1000+ pounds of smelly, dirty, fossil-fuel powered equipment on either the buses or trains... I did mention that I use fossil-fuel powered equipment?
Oh yeah I did, my fuel / oil costs have risen over 50% from last year's, that causes a little whining and I'd defy anyone to NOT be a little put off by that "situation".

I think that my major gripe would be that prices at the pump do not really reflect the price-per-barrel on an equitable, daily level. Whenever the daily per-barrel prices jump, the consumer prices at the pumps jump within hours or even minutes. BUT, if you are paying attention, you will notice that when the price-per-barrel drops, the pump prices take weeks to drop in fashion. It is very frustrating when I am spending loads of $$$ on a product that has such unstable prices. I am as quickly as possible moving out of a business I have run for 19 years (do I feel old) and into another, less weather and fuel dependant.

I recently saw a business earnings report that has shows several of the major oil producers / companies, Suadi Arabia, Venezuela and many other "oil rich" nations reporting record profits. This did nothing to take the sting out of the current situation either.

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it's all about mr friggles now baby...

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(i don't actually mean any abuse towards frib...well maybe a little, as long as it's consensual and we have a safetword)