#8921 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/07/31 11:21:30
Yeah, I'll check the rounding but I didn't really change anything there that I can think of. Hmm...
 Wow !
#8922 posted by Ron on 2009/08/02 08:22:09
Progress in Quake map building, after all these years ! Nice work !
Quick question about something else:
Does it really make a lot of difference if you make your curves just by cutting them with a circle, or if you use the vector manipulation to make them more or less the same size and triangles ? If anyone has some more info (on the web, maybe ?) about vector manipulation, please let me know.
 Ah, Found It:
#8923 posted by grahf on 2009/08/02 16:41:14
http://www.quaketerminus.com/hosted/happymaps/curv_tut.htm
Learn those ratios by heart, use them. The ratio used in the above tut is 0:2 2:4 4:2 2:0 if that makes any sense. There are other possible workable ratios but that one's always worked for me.
As far as constructing said curves, the 2-point clipper will probably give you less headache (and fewer invalid brushes) than trying to vertex manip everything into place.
 Black Monsters
#8924 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/08/02 18:47:14
I remember someone else having a problem awhile back with this ... I have some spots in my level where creatures turn black despite the floor and the walls around them being lit perfectly fine. Is there an easy workaround for this? I'm running FitzQuake...
 Well
#8925 posted by ijed on 2009/08/02 18:56:11
If they're passing over a sky brush then they'll always appear black unless the sky brush has a normal, solid brush inside it.
If they're appearing black when passing over normal lit floor then there's an issue with the origin of the monster.
They take no reference from the walls.
#8926 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/08/02 19:39:33
But what can I do as a mapper? Just rework the brushes in the area until the engine stops having an issue?
 Can You Upload A Screenshot?
#8927 posted by ijed on 2009/08/02 20:37:18
Maybe it's a known issue.
#8928 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/08/02 20:58:49
The screenshot would just be an enforcer standing a well lit ledge but he's black. If he moves to either side a little bit, he lights up. I guess I'll just play with it. :)
 Fair Enough
#8929 posted by ijed on 2009/08/02 22:26:15
Doesn't sound like any issue I know about.
 Tiny Misalignments Maybe
#8930 posted by ijed on 2009/08/02 22:26:36
#8931 posted by necros on 2009/08/02 22:35:21
the problem i believe you're remembering was mine where i had torches and stuff fulldark even though the ground under them was nearly fullbright (or overbright even).
i think i understand what causes it. i suspect it has to do with FQ's lighting interpolation, but only on maps that are unsealed.
the problem usually happens in corners or along walls, never in the middle of a room.
i believe this was because the sides that made up the bottom of the wall brush and the side of the floor brush were fulldark and the interpolation was getting messed up.
i've found that sealing maps so that those faces are removed tends to fix it.
if you have an enforcer on a ledge, is it possible there are faces in the area that are messing up the interpolation?
from what i recall of how metl explained it to me, FQ doesn't just look at the floor directly beneath the model to light it.
#8932 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/08/03 00:24:55
The map is definitely sealed but there might be some dark polygons in the area. I'll take a closer look...
 Curves
#8933 posted by Ron on 2009/08/03 08:17:13
Thanks a lot for that link, Grahf !
#8934 posted by metlslime on 2009/08/03 22:32:22
from what i recall of how metl explained it to me, FQ doesn't just look at the floor directly beneath the model to light it.
I haven't actually figured out this bug yet, but the fitzquake interpolation should still be looking just at the same floor polygon as glquake. The difference is that when you trace a line down and it hits between lightmap samples, glquake picks the nearest one and fitzquake blends between all four.
Again, since i haven't figured out this bug, i can't say in what way fitzquake is doing it wrong.
 More Curves
#8935 posted by grahf on 2009/08/05 03:12:15
No prob Ron, I'm welcome to pass the info along. Thank CZG actually, he wrote it.
Actually, it's worth mentioning that the tutorial I linked to in #8923 was written specifically for Worldcraft. The more advanced methods, of bending a hollowed pipe, simply do not work in editors such as Radiant. I beat my head against a wall for a while until Speedy told me the solution: the pipe itself can only be 8-sided, but you can bend it around a 12-sided curve. So there you have it, in case anyone was wondering.
#8936 posted by Trinca on 2009/08/05 10:43:25
oh fuck, got a map with 400 brushes but is stucking my mapping :\
Isn�t giving me any inspiration at all :\ in some way i want to delete the dawn bastard but then I feel petty for all the work I�ve lost
But guess I will have to let this baby died and start a new one!
I�m want to start a new map like tchak but the size make me be afraid of never finish it... :\
 Curves
#8937 posted by madfox on 2009/08/07 00:07:00
 MadFox = Dr.Seuss
#8938 posted by meTch on 2009/08/07 00:26:05
????
 ????
#8939 posted by madfox on 2009/08/07 03:16:30
 Forget It
#8940 posted by madfox on 2009/08/10 04:05:53
or post your hat.
 Im Sorry
#8941 posted by meTch on 2009/08/10 05:35:42
im not comprehending what i think im supposed to :S
i think my brain has gone to warp stage
 Summary
#8942 posted by madfox on 2009/08/10 16:08:51
That's nothing.
In my occasion I never know what to think
when adding a post and the toppic grows
dead for weeks.
 Smd
#8943 posted by madfox on 2009/08/10 23:49:25
someone needs a model animation but has only the smd format.
It seems something to do with the Team Source SDK Model Source File.
I can only use 3DS or DXF files but he tells me the file in Milkshape or Max3d will only transport to these extentions without bones.
As I need to animate them it's usefull to keep the bone structure.
Is there a solution to this convert error?
#8944 posted by necros on 2009/08/11 00:06:13
it's been a long long time since i was converting hl2 format models...
i believe there's a 3dsmax plugin that imports SMD files directly.
http://www.chaosincarnate.net/cannonfodder/cftools.htm
get mdldecompiler here.
this lets you decompile the mdl file into all the seperate pieces to get the smd, which, afaik, is just the mesh with vertex weighting.
then go here:
http://www.wunderboy.org/sourceapps.php
and pick up the 3dsmax smd importer to directly import the mesh into 3dsmax. this should preserve vertex weighting.
 Thanks
#8945 posted by madfox on 2009/08/11 04:25:58
for the links, necros!
I didn't realize it were hl2 models as I only came to HalfLife1.
I earlier overcame to the stunning effect when importing an enforcer it meshed up the bullit inside its gun, so I didn't understand were my extra triangle was left after exporting.
I only have 3D Studio MAX R3.
I hope the converters can handle this old version.
I could install Milkshape to get the bones preserved as modelling can get messed up when I start adding them myself.
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