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Nice non sequitur anon, very helpful. Presumably it's a very insightful response to one of the previous 31973 posts. Or maybe all of them?
I don't see any bashing.
As with many online communities, some of the more hardened parts of the Quake community can be quite crusty, unpleasant, and downright abusive, often pushing away newcomers and even many regulars. This is not necessary and one sided. He does not have the insight to proclaim this. There's a whole bunch of personal beefs going both ways. Its not like its some cesspit of pepe fren meme toting right wing racist and homophobic nutfuckjobs or something. There are a bunch of gaming communities like that. Q1s is far far from it. A bunch of people are spinning the narrative of "crusty, unpleasant, and downright abusive," from their new clique position. From some it is mosy likely an attempt to hypocritically distance themselves from their past for career reasons. Just, why in gods name is that article taking a position there ? How does he "not have the insight to proclaim this"? Just because he's observed something that you haven't doesn't make that observation objectively wrong.
For my part as somebody who's lurked on the fringes of the Quake 1 community on various forums for 20-odd years I can see how a complete newcomer or somebody with "particular sensitivities" might find certain aspects a little intimidating or potentially unwelcoming. Your own conduct on func_ the past two weeks has been almost exclusively argumentative and unrelated to Quake. I know you're not representative of func_, but a first-timer might see your rant on the Beef thread and just think "ugh, another online community of grouchy old farts more interested in settling personal scores than talking about their common hobby". First impressions matter. Its a beef thread, what interest other than rubbernecking drama could there be to go peruse that thread?
If someone is looking for first impressions there they will be no better served than in any other established community, should that community allow such a thread to exist for its own entertainment or whatever other reason. Mapping advice, inspiration, map comments/reviews etc are the relevant hobby part of func. I did apologize for misplacing my beef with Dumptruck in the wrong thread, am fine with someone deleting it in that thread as it was pretty irrelevant to the re-release. That's a fair point, and I don't want you to feel I've singled you out as the cause of Robert Yang's claim, I just think it's a bit rich to try and refute his experience when it's clear that there are elements of the community that could appear narcissistic or downright unpleasant to outsiders. It's also important to note that he didn't claim the Quake community is unique in this way.
terrafusion, and by extension func, is</> curmudgeonly and unpleasant and abusive at places, it practically prides itself on that. This is not debatable, lol. Most other forums don't have "beef threads".
However, the individuals who made it that way are now the same ones distancing themselves from it, which I agree is hypocritical. Some of those may or may not have been contacted for the RPS article. :---) All mod with just 1 Launcher
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