Tronyn
#5523 posted by nitin on 2015/03/16 05:59:15
no offence but you havent actually made a point yet. You have made a couple of generalisations so far (eg overacting).
Anyway I'm not sure it really matters because it doesnt look like anyone actually wants to have a genuine discussion beyond their personal tastes.
Ok
#5524 posted by Tronyn on 2015/03/16 06:27:41
I just wanted to deny that I am looking at films from a "graphics" point of view with the analogy to video games. Maybe some people are, but I'm not.
The literature analogy, from my perspective, is much more appropriate. Then when we compare, say, Shakespeare to Cormac McCarthy (as an example of a really good modern writer), you can say we'll they're both great. But Charlie Chaplin's "Modern Times" is simply not the equivalent of Shakespeare; or at least I deny the sophistication and meaning of it. I thought "Old films age in a way that old literature does not" was a point.
#5525 posted by nitin on 2015/03/16 12:25:32
fair enough, that last bit is a point to an extent but you dont say why except that you dont like Modern Times (or for that matter why you like both Shakespeare and Cormac McCarthy).
That's why I think we are going around in circles, we basically just keep restating personal preferences without saying why they are.
Alright, That's A Fair Point
#5526 posted by Tronyn on 2015/03/17 02:02:46
With storytelling I'm looking for depth, meaning, beauty, etc; Modern Times just seemed like shallow slapstick stuff. I could see a much stronger case being made for Metropolis, in terms of those things, plus innovation in visual style and set design.
I Would Argue There Is Beauty
#5527 posted by nitin on 2015/03/17 10:17:32
and meaning and depth with Modern Times, especially beauty. You can obviously disagree with that but I think calling it shallow slapstick is a bit unfair.
In contrast, I would personally not say the same about say The General, Buster Keaton's landmark film. I find that generally well choreographed slapstick but nothing more than that.
Btw
#5528 posted by Spirit on 2015/03/17 10:22:00
Birdman is worth watching.
#5529 posted by Baker on 2015/03/21 05:32:13
Anyone watched Snowpiercer (2013)?
It was a high budget movie with Chris Evans.
The South Korean director rejected a mandate to make edits from the American distributor and the distributor retaliated so the movie was not well publicized.
It is a "End of The World" movie set on a train.
The world has frozen over because to combat climate change, a cooling agent was released into the atmosphere that resulted in runaway temperature drop.
Yeah I Saw It
#5530 posted by nitin on 2015/03/21 06:40:29
liked it but didnt love it. Best scene was the education train.
Mm
#5531 posted by bal on 2015/03/21 09:14:03
Snowpiercer wasn't bad, I had trouble getting behind the story though. Some cool stuff though :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X05TDsoSg2Y
(spoils entire film)
Just watched Kaguya Hime, that was as incredible as I had expected.
#5532 posted by Baker on 2015/03/21 09:58:50
I liked the scenes, the concepts and the premise. It introduced a number of unique ideas and was visually appealing.
An uncommon movie where the first half and the second half are entirely different movies.
The whole was a bit less than the sum of its parts. The end raises some questions, but I probably shouldn't explain.
#5533 posted by Baker on 2015/03/21 10:09:20
I had trouble getting behind the story though They had to fit a square peg in a round hole, but what movie doesn't. At the end of the movie, I'm not sure how the "good guy" isn't worse than the "bad guy" ... his motivations are irrelevant and whether the "bad guy" is a 'bad guy' but someone that has to make the tough decisions and mentally compartmentalize.
Just watched Kaguya Hime, that was as incredible as I had expected.
Could you be a bit more specific, Google is showing several possibly relevant variations from various years.
This One
#5534 posted by bal on 2015/03/21 10:24:06
#5535 posted by JneeraZ on 2015/03/21 10:30:33
Snowpiercer was cool in parts but it raises a lot of questions that kind of spoil the premise but ... it's fun to watch and visually I thought it was cool.
#5536 posted by nitin on 2015/03/21 12:44:14
Snowpiercer worked best IMHO when it stuck to black comedy. It did not have anything beyond superficial depth to sustain any dramatic tension for the serious bits.
I agree that it had some nice ideas but they were all wafer thin in their implementation.
Overall I found it decent but considering who made it, I was also a little disappointed.
Oh Yeah
#5537 posted by bal on 2015/03/21 13:21:39
Definitely his weakest effort so far, Memories of Murder and Mother were much better, and even The Host worked better as a weird genre-mixing affair.
#5538 posted by JneeraZ on 2015/03/21 15:41:20
Snowpiercer was also riddled with logistical issues of just living on the train. So to get from A to B, basically, the entire train needs to pass through the classroom cars ... all the time. You really had to turn off your brain for some parts of it.
Re: Star Trek
#5539 posted by Baker on 2015/03/24 11:29:50
Star Trek Continues
Episode #3 - The imitation of Spock is not too bad. And the imitation of William Shatner/Kirk isn't too bad either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJf2ovQtI6w
Interstellar
#5540 posted by Kinn on 2015/03/28 12:43:45
Film was a solid 8/10 for me right up until it took a complete nosedive in the third act with that plot-twist, which would have been hokey in an episode of the Twilight Zone, let alone a supposedly "hard" sci-fi film.
Kinda like how Sunshine jumped the shark at the end, but worse.
Oh dear.
John Wick
#5541 posted by Spirit on 2015/03/28 14:23:40
Neither thrilling nor entertaining. Yawn from start to end.
I Have To Agree
#5542 posted by DaZ on 2015/03/28 15:38:07
I don't see why it's praised so highly.
I thought the hotel setup was pretty fun, but apart from that, dull.
#5543 posted by Spirit on 2015/04/11 13:35:33
Anchorman 2: Somehow some moments were funny but it seems awfully cut/edited? Turned off after enduring one hour. Then watched the first episode of
Daredevil: Which has super annoying shaky cam all the time and a lack of style. Otherwise not bad.
Best Thing About John Wick Was Manson's New Music
#5544 posted by Spirit on 2015/04/11 13:35:49
John Wick Was Soooo
#5545 posted by Drew on 2015/04/12 04:59:43
Nineties. I'm not sure how I feel about that movie...
TV Stuff
#5546 posted by ionous on 2015/04/18 23:04:35
Better Call Saul, season one:
A great first season. I appreciate the sense of restraint the creators have employed. Building the history of Jimmy McGill stone by stone. I suppose with Vince Gilligan at the helm, there was no chance this wasn't going to be good.
Fortitude, 9/12 first season episodes:
I'm very much enjoying this one. Can't beat the location, which is very much a character unto itself; the frozen arctic wasteland, where polar bears are such a threat the carrying a rifle is legislated.
I am highly intrigued by the plot. It has definitely gone in unforseen directions; introducing elements of the mythic and science-fiction that I would not have guessed in something that seemed relatively straightforward. Looking forward to finishing up the episodes sitting on my DVR.
The Walking Dead, season 5B:
Not as strong a slate as 5A (which was the best run the series has ever had), but still a decent series overall, especially the middle episodes. I do appreciate that this season began to suggest that things could be different in this world; maybe it won't end in darkness.
Shameless, season 5:
Not as strong as the prior season, but still hilarious on a reliable basis, chock-full of its trademark audacity.
Game of Thrones, season 5, episode 1:
What more could be said about my favorite show on TV? I always wondered how the showrunners would condense two books into one season. After one episode, it's become very clear; cutting to the bone, while still retaining s clear sense of plot trajectory.
At the close of season four, I thought Sansa's storyline was going to edge into 'Winds of Winter' territory, but the premiere suggests that instead she'll be filling in for another 'Dance with Dragons' character who was cut from the show.
Anyway, I have no objectivity when it comes to this show. It's just great.
Re: Recent Shows
#5547 posted by Tronyn on 2015/04/18 23:40:34
Better Call Saul:
I've actually been really disappointed in this, pretty much the only part of it I've really liked is Mike's storyline and I basically wish the show was about him. It had its moments, but in no way do I think it's replicated the admittedly uneven brilliance of Breaking Bad.
Justified, final season:
Now that the series is over, the clear high point for it was the first 2 seasons; the way they disposed of all the new characters at the end of the season was getting formulaic and messy (6th time they've done this, who's Raylan fighting next week?). 4 great seasons with better arcs would have beat 6 seasons of decreasing quality, but despite the messy writing it still wasn't a bad ending.
New Game of Thrones: As someone who thought the story lost its way in the last two books, I'm happy to see how fast they are moving - it's pretty clear now that we'll finally get a real ending to this story, and probably sooner rather than later (another 2 or 3 seasons and that's it). I like that they are now free to reach the finish line the way they want; they have the success, popularity, budget, and creative freedom to take whatever risks they choose. Not only have they cut a lot from the books but many scenes I remember from the books are actually better in the show. I similarly have no objectivity, at this point I hugely respect these show writers, more than GRRM anyway.
House of Cards Season 3: Cast is still great but kind of a let-down, especially since they can do whatever they want now (apparently the original UK series only went for 1 season); but they haven't dealt with issues from past seasons and the politics seems like a sabotaged, aimless deadlock more than ever. But that said, the guy who played Putin stole the freaking show.
Trailers:
Batman v Superman - Okay, this looks pretty great to me. I like how they seem to be continuing with the "First Contact" theme of distrust between species; looks like Man of Steel meets Watchmen; I'm down for that.
True Detective Season 2:
Colin Farrell, playing a brooding corrupt detective with a giant moustache, puts on brass knuckles and punches someone in the face. What could be noir than that? So yeah, this looks great.
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